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If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Better to be divorced man with kids or never married?

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But those are lies!
You're saying to basically say whatever to appeal to whomever wants to hear...."yea. I focused too much on work"
" Wish I spent more time on love"

Or. ."yea I used to be a player, but I changed"

Or " yea, I gambled my savings away, but now I want stability baby, please take me"
yeah those all sound like the standard lies you tell people to pickup girls lol
 

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ha ha I am hardly an old goat. Some have told me I look 25. lol.
Well I look 37 and I date girls who are 21-23, so if you look 12 years younger than me, why are you saying girls at the bar are so young you won't even approach them?

Because you're pushing this "all men must be married" theme?

There you have it. He looks 25 (right), and could date 19 year old women (yawn), but because he was never married, nobody will talk to him (whah).
 

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I am approaching 50 and never married, no kids, and no mortgage.
Although I once had a mortgage and discovered home ownership was overrated. (Sold property)
I had a long-term girlfriend and discovered that was overrated too.(Broke up)
I like kids, but never found a woman I wanted to have kids with.(no right woman)

Ironically, in my 20's, 30's, 40's I never had problems getting dates. Awesome dating life.

Nowadays so many women dismiss me. Some say why never married? Of course you are labeled a weirdo at a certain age. I go to the bars to have fun but the girls are so young that I don't even approach them. All the old women, have kids, let themselves go, and kind of depress me.

I work out everyday for 2 hours in the gym, pound the weights, run, eat clean and stay fit. I expect a woman to do the same or at least make an effort.

I am thinking of deleting my Facebook account because I don't like to be labeled while all my friends are married. Should 50 something yr old men just disappear?
My self esteem is good and my confidence is high---but feel out of place. Maybe its just Ohio. Florida and California have more older singles. In NYC everyone is welcome. lol

So my question is ..are men with kids who are divorced better catches than single men who never married?
To answer your question NO, those things really don't matter.

Your looks, personality, and finances still determine how attractive you are, no matter the age. At 50, you can still pull women in their 30's and 40's, some of which still look relatively decent. HELL I just met a 46 year old chick the other day that would make most chicks in their 20's jealous lol.
 

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To answer your question NO, those things really don't matter.

Your looks, personality, and finances still determine how attractive you are, no matter the age. At 50, you can still pull women in their 30's and 40's, some of which still look relatively decent. HELL I just met a 46 year old chick the other day that would make most chicks in their 20's jealous lol.
Well, that means I'm a failure at 66%.

All I have is looks and personallity, so I'm told.

Finances..... I'm an Uber driver, we make peanuts.
 

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Well, that means I'm a failure at 66%.

All I have is looks and personallity, so I'm told.

Finances..... I'm an Uber driver, we make peanuts.
I use a measurement of 6 out of 10 makes you attractive.

For example, one guy could be a 7 in Looks, 8 in Personality, and a 4 in Finances. That's a collective average of 6.3 so this guy is going to get a "consistent" stream of new women as long as he's out there meeting them.
 

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Winner! Greatest contradiction within minutes.

21 year old women are so young Steve doesn't approach them, but it's no big deal, been there done that? So wait, the only thing missing is he isn't married?

And needle off record - 20 year old women are meh? All 20 year old women? The average Playboy Playmate is 21. On average all men at all ages in all countries want women who look 20 (not who act 20).

Sounds like Steve got one chunky young girl 10 years ago and somehow thinks he's had every girl in every sorority.
DOLT. Since you are so mouthy and brag about some 21 yr old girl you're shagging. YAWN. (she is probably some 300lb girl with a mustache) Lets post some pics.
 
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But those are lies!
You're saying to basically say whatever to appeal to whomever wants to hear...."yea. I focused too much on work"
" Wish I spent more time on love"

Or. ."yea I used to be a player, but I changed"

Or " yea, I gambled my savings away, but now I want stability baby, please take me"
Are they lies? Why don't you ask OP that question.
 

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99% of the guys lie on here. Yet, nobody posts photos. They brag about sh*t that isn't happening. lol
 

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99% of the guys lie on here. Yet, nobody posts photos. They brag about sh*t that isn't happening. lol
I find it flattering when people resort to accusing me of lying. I've actually posted pictures of over 20 women here, including the 21 year old who famously scored 99/100 in a professional photo rating service on three of her photos. I posted pictures of her nearly 6 months ago.

I say Steve Blaine never had a 19 year old woman, how's that? See how unproductive the accuse-them-of-lying game is?

You are saying you can have lots of women but don't want them? What is your point? SteveBlaine came here to reverse engineer a point?

I seriously wonder: Is SteveBlaine really a bitter old unmarried woman named Stephanie Blaine?
 

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99% of the guys lie on here. Yet, nobody posts photos. They brag about sh*t that isn't happening. lol
Now it's 99 percent of So Suave members who are lying? This is a famous disinformation tactic. If we post pictures, you'll insist on seeing a photo of us in the picture, and then you'll insist on seeing an actual porno with both parties in it. Then you'll want to see a consent form.

FEMALE DETECTOR.
 

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There you have it, folks. SteveBlaine has "been there done that" regarding 19 year old women, but when I say I'm dating a 21 year old woman he says "99% of the guys lie on here". Then, if there was any doubt it's a she, she throws in a (laugh out loud) and a "you're a creep". Goodnight, grandma.
 

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you know, I thought bigneil was just doing his normal macho posturing for a bit there, but now that I think about it, "you are a creep" is a rather feminine insult...
 

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There you have it, folks. SteveBlaine has "been there done that" regarding 19 year old women, but when I say I'm dating a 21 year old woman he says "99% of the guys lie on here". Then, if there was any doubt it's a she, she throws in a (laugh out loud) and a "you're a creep". Goodnight, grandma.
So because he made you feel insecure and that he was better than you, you get all defensive? You were LITERALLY made into his b!tch because you can't control yourself. He never pushed an agenda, never insulted you even. He just said something on his own accord that he believes and you disagree with and now your panties are all up in a bunch. This is the type of emotional sh!t your prostitute should be pulling, not a 46 year old man. Jesus dude. Nah fvck that, not even Jesus could save you now. You're a lost cause.

Inb4 petty name-calling and ad hominems.
 

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Wow, so not only is SteveBlaine a she, but that she is none other than ImTheDoubleGayest.

Did ImTheDoubleGreatAs-s not see that SteveBlaine originally poo-pooed the notion of dating younger women as having no meaning whatsoever (after all, Steve talked to his niece at a family party once - yawn), and then Steve says I must be lying if I've dated a younger woman.

Oh, the point. That. When you grow up you'll understand.
 

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Wow, so not only is SteveBlaine a she, but that she is none other than ImTheDoubleGayest.

Did ImTheDoubleGreatAs-s not see that SteveBlaine originally poo-pooed the notion of dating younger women as having no meaning whatsoever (after all, Steve talked to his niece at a family party once - yawn), and then Steve says I must be lying if I've dated a younger woman.

Oh, the point. That. When you grow up you'll understand.
bigneil's got a smalljohnson
 

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So because he made you feel insecure and that he was better than you, you get all defensive? You were LITERALLY made into his b!tch because you can't control yourself. He never pushed an agenda, never insulted you even. He just said something on his own accord that he believes and you disagree with and now your panties are all up in a bunch. This is the type of emotional sh!t your prostitute should be pulling, not a 46 year old man. Jesus dude. Nah fvck that, not even Jesus could save you now. You're a lost cause.

Inb4 petty name-calling and ad hominems.
So to summarize:

1) I'm insecure
2) I think underemployed people are better than me
3) I'm defensive
4) I'm literally his b!tch
5) I can't control myself
6) I invented the agenda
7) I imagined insults
8) I denied him his accord (I don't mean a 1982 Honda with a huge spoiler but that too)
9) I got my panties in a bunch
10) I'm emotional
11) I date prostitutes
12) I'm old
13) I'm not religious enough
14) I'm satanic
15) I'm beyond help
16) I have a small penis

But ImTheDoubleGreatest would never engage in name calling or ad hominems, and she doesn't take things personally or think about me being naked - ever.
 

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I would like to position myself to be an "in demand" 50 yr old male. I am not a swinging single or trying to pick up young girls. I prefer a classy mature woman within my age range. I have several college degrees, I work out in the gym, look attractive, modest income, look young for my age, and dress stylish. It seems like the only way a 50 yr old can be hot is to be super wealthy... lol.

Young guys don't need money. I can attest to that. For example, a young guy can be poor, single, drive a beater car, dress cool, be somewhat attractive, have inner game and be wanted by MANY women.

The game changes after age 40. I am thinking of getting off social media, going to wine tastings or conference events and more appropriate settings.
I'm 50 divorced with kids, yea I have money, but I am far from rich. I never have problems getting dates, and getting women interested. Like you I work out a lot, which helps, but I think you get that it's probably the places you are going that is the problem.

By the time you hit your mid-30s, women stop giving you extra-credit for 'potential', and start grading you on who you are. So you are right, past 40 it really isn't a game anymore it is who you REALLY are. If you really don't have anything going in life then yea... you are going to have problems. Here is how I meet women:

Yoga: I'm shocked that more men do not take this up. Especially someone like you, just starting out, you have built in rapport and need 'help'. The studio I practice at has get togethers first Friday of every month. Always fun.
Chamber of Commerce Networking Events: Seriously, start a business. What ever it is that you want to do, it can even be a part time thing. SBA has free counseling and they can get you started. Being an entrepreneur is interesting, and you have built in rapport with chicks at the network events.
Get involved with charities: I'm on the board of three, and there is often plenty of opportunities to meet women.

I also do wine tasting and anything else that looks remotely interesting. My source of interesting stuff to do is Facebook under local 'events' where I live there is seldom NOTHING going on. If you are in a place with ZERO happening, and you are not happy, then go ahead and move.... you don't have any reason to stay where you are.
 

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Steve, I am from Quebec (drastic difference culture) but I moved in Ontario (similar culture to US) but I'd say that it's just a matter of time before the English culture also evolves and eventually, there will be more and more guys like you. I am 31 yo, snipped, no kids, will NEVER get married. I have my own mission and my own stuff and that's what matter cause I decided to be happy for as long as I can. I am in an open long term relationship right now, for 3 years ( I was a serial monogamist/cheater before) and am quite happy. I have almost no drama in my life but I feel ya. There is one thing I am starting to understand and it's that with this kinda lifestyle, you have to live in bigger urban areas because we are the 5-10%.. in your case we could even say 2-3% since a lot of dudes give up by their 40s.
Keep it up man. Marriage is extremely highly overrated. Women are not allowed to change their family names in a marriage anymore in Quebec. We're just more realistic... I mean divorce rates are thru the roof ;) Geniuses are weirdos.
 

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So to summarize:

1) I'm insecure
2) I think underemployed people are better than me
3) I'm defensive
4) I'm literally his b!tch
5) I can't control myself
6) I invented the agenda
7) I imagined insults
8) I denied him his accord (I don't mean a 1982 Honda with a huge spoiler but that too)
9) I got my panties in a bunch
10) I'm emotional
11) I date prostitutes
12) I'm old
13) I'm not religious enough
14) I'm satanic
15) I'm beyond help
16) I have a small penis

But ImTheDoubleGreatest would never engage in name calling or ad hominems, and she doesn't take things personally or think about me being naked - ever.
Are you stupid, or stupid? Of course I engage in ad hominems. I just did that right above you idiot. I only do it to the saddest of cases though, usually I create structured responses that cause you to tell me how you can beat me up because you finally are working out the right way since you hired a personal trainer. But quite frankly I get annoyed readin your posts. Sometimes you have decent wisdom (hence why you aren't on ignore), but usually not. So I have decided to trigger you this time and it is working splendidly. I have to say, you don't have good social skills at all because you don't understand metaphorical phrases and take them to be literally. So funny, I'll try to use them more often.

So tell me now, if you don't ever want like being argued with on a DISCUSSION forum, then why are you here? If you are just oh so knowledgeable, then why do you still come on to this site? If you are really so much better than everyone else on here, then why are you here? Do you ACTUALLY have answers to these questions, or are you simply going to mock me, make fun of my username, and then make a fool out of yourself again?
 
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