Better than everyone else.

[floydb25]

Yea... You're asking for help while saying you don't care about anyone, and use them for your own personal gain as it benefits you. You said this AS you're asking people for help. Do you not see the problem, here? You're better than everyone, you use them, brag and gloat, special cookie is me, don't need anyone, everyone is jealous... WHILE asking for help. You're saying this to the same people you're asking for help from!

That's like beating someone's ass, and insulting them constantly - then asking them for a favor... As soon as you meet them.

This isn't the proper way to get acquainted with people, or receive the help you need.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Yea... You're asking for help while saying you don't care about anyone, and use them for your own personal gain as it benefits you. You said this AS you're asking people for help. Do you not see the problem, here? You're better than everyone, you use them, brag and gloat, special cookie is me, don't need anyone, everyone is jealous... WHILE asking for help. You're saying this to the same people you're asking for help from!

That's like beating someone's ass, and insulting them constantly - then asking them for a favor... As soon as you meet them.

This isn't the proper way to get acquainted with people, or receive the help you need.

I'm saying i don't care for anyone when i deal with people. I am obviously asking for help and i'm just telling you about myself. How can i possibly use anyone here? It is just a forum. I'm not saying it to any of you. I'm just giving you the bases of who i am so that you can have a better idea on how i can get help. We are all different people and all act differently.

 

[floydb25]

Of course... But this forum is full of REAL PEOPLE, and you've explained your dealings with, and attitude towards other people. Maybe not on here, but people are people. So, how do expect to get the help you need while telling REAL PEOPLE how you view and treat people? You said you have no regard for people - other than for what they can provide - while asking for help from people. WTF? Do you seriously not see the connection, and why you haven't been helped?

But your personality was targeted and attacked because of how you presented yourself. So, that instantly became the focus, and what you need to work on. But you don't see how this very same behavior is causing these problems you listed. You view them as separate. So while you think everyone is jealous and inferior - they dislike you precisely for having this mindset. Even on here - as soon as you made the thread, and all the responses you made afterwards. As well as treating people like they are disposable, and so forth.

But I honestly don't think it's possible to get through to you. :wave:

 

[Ronaldo7]

Of course... But this forum is full of REAL PEOPLE, and you've explained your dealings with, and attitude towards other people. Maybe not on here, but people are people. So, how do expect to get the help you need while telling REAL PEOPLE how you view and treat people? You said you have no regard for people - other than for what they can provide - while asking for help from people. WTF? Do you seriously not see the connection, and why you haven't been helped?

But your personality was targeted and attacked because of how you presented yourself. So, that instantly became the focus, and what you need to work on. But you don't see how this very same behavior is causing these problems you listed. You view them as separate. So while you think everyone is jealous and inferior - they dislike you precisely for having this mindset. Even on here - as soon as you made the thread, and all the responses you made afterwards. As well as treating people like they are disposable, and so forth.

But I honestly don't think it's possible to get through to you. :wave:

Not even God can please everyone. I don't care what you view my personality as. I simply asked for help in a certain aspect. I don't think my personality is a handicap. A handicap is only a handicap if you allow it to show. If a person is missing an arm, but they don't let it interfere or show it affects, you aren't going to view that person's arm as a handicap. My personality is my confidence. As much as you want to tell me that my personality is bad and what not, it is my biggest strength and what differentiates me from you and everyone else. Don't get all biased because of my personality. I'm ASKING HOW TO APPROACH WOMEN. If you really have to keep pointing out everything, then you really need to grow past it. Showing too much humility is a flaw.

 

[Plutoman]

I gave you advice; you've ignored all the advice that doesn't fit what you want to hear, claiming reasons why it doesn't fit you, why it wouldn't work, and saying you don't understand how to do it.

See a psychologist. That is a simple answer. You've got money for it, see a psychologist, and see a good one.

And not only that, you've been told how to approach women. It's simple. You walk up, and say hey, and start talking to them. You put a friendly smile on your face, and go start talking.

And again, see a psychologist.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Ron,

I myself suffer with NPD. If your posts are not trolling, internet jocking, or any variation of the two, you need to seek help...you as well have NPD.

With that said, it's important for you to know a couple things:

1.) No one is envious of a teenage virgin who wears business attire (that mommy and daddy supplied) to low-end clubs and dive bars. Your complex is so deep that you see any "look" or inquisition by anyone as jealousy/envy/desire/what have you. Your perception IS wrong. You ARE NOT better than everyone else.

2.) I disagree with some posters on here about empathy, but not humility. Too much empathy can be very dangerous to your ambitions and life goals. It's not necessarily a weakness to empathize with your fellow man; but use this kindness too frivolously and people WILL take advantage of you. Hell, your best friends will turn their backs on you for the right price. Humility on the other hand, is something to really internalize. Perception of your character will take you far in business--not as far as production--but still far. Be careful about taking all the credit for work, you'll burn a lot of bridges that way.

3.) Women are everywhere. Sex is everywhere. You can go out 7 times a week and if you really put your mind to it, probably score 7 times. Your problem stems from insecurity. Someone who doesn't approach is fearful of rejection due to low self-confidence. When people look at you with desire, you feel good. When they walk away and don't approach, you feel bad. You're not with as many women as you can be and that is your own fault. I too lack the "normal" amount of empathy--something that stems from NPD--so my relationships are quick and sexual in orientation. However, my ability to reasonably communicate and relate to other people has increased dramatically since I began actively approaching people--no matter attractiveness or even sexual orientation. Part of your problem is you have a very limited view of personalities. Without getting to know other people all you know is self-centeredness. You know other personality types exist but you just haven't experienced them.

I don't really know what your original question was. However, working at NPD is essential to personal development. Not everyone is here on this earth to serve you. Initially you will feel bored or too good for approaching. You'll feel anxious when you start--not because the women are too beautiful or it's new or anything like that--you'll feel anxious because the possibility that someone wouldn't be "into you" has never been a reality in your life. You'll learn that no matter how "beneath you" or how much better you are than people, sometimes they just won't like you. Human nature dictates that some people just won't be into you. It's the beauty of being a human being, and not say....oh a starfish. Deal with it.

I also think a lot of people on these boards are closet NPDs. I won't name names, but I think they probably already know it to a certain degree. One last thing:

Stop dressing like a tool when you go out.

1.) I'm not a virgin. I would never go to a low-end club because people that go there dress like bums. All you see is drunken bums, whose lives will be just as sh*tty when they wake up the next day. I care about any inquisition anyone has towards me. However, i simply reply with my classic "I could care less" line. I don't try to be better than everyone else. It's hard to pretend something you aren't when it's sticking out like a sore thumb.

2.) I aim to be the CEO. I don't work for people beneath me. I really don't like to work with other people. The business world is made exclusively for people like me. I'm not afraid to do anything at all to achieve success in it.

3.) A relationship that's quick and sexual is just what i want. I hold no attachment to her and would simply "hit it and quit it". I CAN relate to other people. However, i don't care. If i really wanted to relate to someone i would listen to them and simply not walk away when i'm bored of them, which i always do.

My original question was how to approach women. How do you start a conversation, etc? I do feel to good to go approach sometimes. It would as "Look at me, please. I'm dressed incredibly well and you should come talk to the better person". You are completely right in that sense. I'm not liked by everyone though, but then again what can they do about it? Nothing. It is a possibility that they wouldn't be into me.

Your most interesting point now. How do i dress like a tool? And how does wearing a suit resemble one?

@Scott: If you attract anyone with ripped jeans and an old shirt, i'm perfectly content in saying that they probably have low standards, much like you. Hobos attract hobos, no offence.

Why would you tell me things like that, which simply make you look bad and with no taste?

Not to sound mean, but i only buy people i have a use for. Money is great tool to get what you want.

@PairPlusRoyalFlush: I know i'm not a loving, caring person. I'm bold and honest. I simply say what's on my mind and if the other person doesn't like it, they can deal with it.

 

[Plutoman]

You know, honestly at this point I just feel pity for you. You're a bit of a sad case here. I really hope, for your sake, you get help.

I'd much rather build my company through connections and personal investment. That is, build the friendships and have people want to invest. You'll have a hard time keeping employees.

Not to mention, you are simply supremely immature.

 

[Ronaldo7]

It is important to dress for your occasion. Going to a club in business attire is not appropriate. People look at you not because you're a flashy dresser who owns his own business and is wildly successful in every aspect of life (which you are not). People look at you because you're dressing out of context...like a tool. I don't understand why you go to a social area (club) to not be social. It's like going to the library to workout. You can do both, but people will just look at you funny. Your NPD allows you to misconstrue their looks as positive desire.

It's strange how you come here asking for advice on breaking out of your comfort zone and approaching women when you, by your own admission, are above it. At some level you realize that it's not beneath you to approach because you actively want to change it. However, in all other aspects of your life you do not make the same realization.

You're not willing to do everything in business because you have such a high regard for yourself. Por ejemplo: If taking a lower-paying job to get your foot into the door was your only option would you do it? Or would you hold out for your dream job because you're above the job offer? Would you approach clients that would provide you immediate profit but offer limited market value? Would you go gay for $1,000,000,000?

You're only 18. In the grand scheme of things, you know next-to-nothing. You have been raised in a priviledged family and suffer many of the same social restrictions as women. You're entitled, narcissistic, and immortal...none of which you earned. Congratulations on working out and keeping in shape. Not drinking is also good. A good diet will take you a long way.

You may just need to grow up a bit. I dunno. Good luck.

You sound too, too much like my best friend.

I said only sometimes i feel like i'm above approaching.

Lower-paying job? Lol. You are confusing me with the common, everyday people. I have the family business and everything else i get into. I would never, ever work for minimum wage.

I know next-to-nothing, huh? I know more than you will in your entire life. One of my greatest strengths is that i make a strong first impression, good or bad, but people immediately take notice of who i am.

I don't get something though. You have the same narcissistic thoughts and such, yet you attack me for it. Why? Because i don't care and i hold no regard for anyone? You clearly do, since you said you are able to relate to people now that you approach and such.

At the end of the day, i go to bed knowing how great i am and with the same grin on my face as always. When nothing/no one can phase you, that moment will represent your inner-personal prime.

@Plutoman: Thank you for your comment. I'll be sure to remember it when i'm worth a billion dollars.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Your definition of knowledge is much, much different than mine. As it were though, you're probably right. Your HS diploma is much more relevant than my BBA, MBA and years of experience. Unlike you I have had to work for my merits. I will take my salary and personal satisfaction over a coddled upbringing and delusional self-perception any day.

I do have NPD. I have received therapy. I continue to monitor my progress. I cannot resist personal attacks though, as evidenced by my reply. Something I need to work on, but you're just too cute to ignore.

The difference between you and I is rational thought. I have come to a point in my life where rational thought outweighs my own personal agenda. Everything I wish to attain is plausible, yet met with the realization that it will take hard work, not just an inflated ego.

As I said before, you embody many similar characteristics to an entitled woman. It's not NPD anymore--it's bordering on me thinking you're a female troll. As with any female...or troll for that matter, I will discipline you with silence.

PS.

Stop dressing like a tool

I'm 18 and you are much older. How can you compare what you have to what i have? I'm just starting out, while you are finishing. I like how you take a personal interest in attacking me. I'll take it as a compliment. Last time i checked, i wasn't a female. You also sound sore that you have to work SO hard to get what you want, while i simply ask and get it.

PS.

I don't dress like one. Don't be mad i can actually afford to dress.

 

[Purefilth]

@Scott: If you attract anyone with ripped jeans and an old shirt, i'm perfectly content in saying that they probably have low standards, much like you. Hobos attract hobos, no offence.

Shows how little you really know about attraction.

Go suit up and stand by the bar, dont dance, dont smile, just sip on your white wine spritzer like a good little girl and go home alone.

Getting a forum full of men to dislike you is quite impressive for a non-troll as you claim to be.

Obviously you are simply not a people person, and thats your problem.

Being a people person is noticable to others, its inviting to them and it makes them want to talk to you. being an arrogant sociopath will not encourage girlies to drop panties.

Try being fun, and at least pretend to give half a shvt about others.





even talking to you through a computer makes me feel dirty imagine how girls must think of you face to face! eugh!

you've had far too much of my time now

 

[Atom Smasher]

Ronaldo, this is what happens when everything is handed to you on a silver platter.

You are imploding in on yourself but you're too young to realize it yet. It's too difficult for you to look at, because you will disintegrate if you find that you are just one of us.

You're either going to grow into an abusive monster or fold up and implode completely if you stay on this runaway train you're on.

I fear that the only thing that will straighten you out is a major life-crisis. When I was your age I thought I was the Sh!t and was emotionally cut off from people, for decades in fact. It was self-preservation, the exoskeleton that held me together. But life showed me that I am nobody special, and that was one of the best (though painful) realizations of my life, because it allowed me to tear down the walls that kept me from connecting with people.

You are in a sort of solitary confinement and what we are saying here are only the whispering breezes of the coming war within. It will be a war for your sanity. Clearly you aren't able to fully comprehend the actual meaning of what we're saying here (because of your youth), but I ask you to put it on the back burner and consider that some of what we're seeing is true. I truly hope that life serves up that which you need for your benefit and the benefit of those within your sphere of infuence.

 

[Atom Smasher]

And remember, a key factor of life-success for a young man is to value the wisdom of those who have gone before him. The illusion of youth is that "the world is different today" and that elders' wisdom cannot possibly be relevant, but that rarely applies. The wisdom that the ancient Babylonians leveraged for their own and others' good is the same wisdom that works today. There is nothing new under the sun, only different combinations.

 

[floydb25]

You guys are just wasting time talking to this tool. No matter what you say, he attacks and praises himself - while viewing everyone as beneath him. Don't you see in all of his responses? This is what it's like dealing with an NPD. You CAN'T get through to them. He's not going to come to his senses.

Should just ban his worthless ass.

 

[zekko]

When I was your age I thought I was the Sh!t and was emotionally cut off from people, for decades in fact. It was self-preservation, the exoskeleton that held me together. But life showed me that I am nobody special, and that was one of the best (though painful) realizations of my life, because it allowed me to tear down the walls that kept me from connecting with people.

This is one of the things that has always confused me about PUA doctrine. On the one hand, we're supposed to realize that we are nothing special, no better than anyone else, and divest ourselves of ego. But on the other hand, we're supposed to think of ourselves as 10s, and think that girls should be lucky to be with us.

If we're nothing special, how the heck can we be 10s? And honestly, I don't even believe in 10s, but I'm supposed to consider myself one?

The only thing I've thought about how the "we're nothing special" mindset, is that means that to get where we want to be, we have to put in the work, just like anyone else.

 

[BeDJ]

This is one of the things that has always confused me about PUA doctrine. On the one hand, we're supposed to realize that we are nothing special, no better than anyone else, and divest ourselves of ego. But on the other hand, we're supposed to think of ourselves as 10s, and think that girls should be lucky to be with us.

If we're nothing special, how the heck can we be 10s? And honestly, I don't even believe in 10s, but I'm supposed to consider myself one?

The only thing I've thought about how the "we're nothing special" mindset, is that means that to get where we want to be, we have to put in the work, just like anyone else.

Absolutely. The moment I realized I wasn't a special snowflake, although society claims you should be, I've been living a better, more meaningful life. Thinking you are the prize is an attitude that leads to a powerful mindset - Living life under the accordance of your terms.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Shows how little you really know about attraction.

Go suit up and stand by the bar, dont dance, dont smile, just sip on your white wine spritzer like a good little girl and go home alone.

Getting a forum full of men to dislike you is quite impressive for a non-troll as you claim to be.

Obviously you are simply not a people person, and thats your problem.

Being a people person is noticable to others, its inviting to them and it makes them want to talk to you. being an arrogant sociopath will not encourage girlies to drop panties.

Try being fun, and at least pretend to give half a shvt about others.





even talking to you through a computer makes me feel dirty imagine how girls must think of you face to face! eugh!

you've had far too much of my time now

My question was on how to approach women aka create an attraction. I never claimed i knew anything about it. I simply made a remark about his personal aspect.

That's what i do. I don't drink wine either, only water. I'll gladly go home alone than take a fat girl like some of the guys at the club. I have very, very high standards and i don't settle for less.

I asked a question. I gave background to help you ANSWER it better and everyone here, with a few exceptions, has attacked my personality when it doesn't correlate with my question.

I'm a people's person when i want to be. When i need to be, i'll be. It's all part of getting what I want.

I pride myself on how i look and women see that, even men. I get so many people that tell me how great i look and even ASK me where i get my stuff and how can they dress like ME.

This is the interesting point, my friend. "At least pretend to give half a shvt about others". If i did that, i would be called a fake. I'm real and honest. Love me or hate me, i'm still me.

A lot of girls hate me, but they still i'm very attractive. That's enough for me. Whenever i meet anyone, especially a girl, i let her know how much better i am. Thoughts, words, and actions all show it. I leave her like "I was going to say something, but damn i got nothing".

@AtomSmasher: That's the thing. I'm not ONE of the common. I'm something else. Good or bad, i will change it all in whatever area i choose to put by unrivaled drive and determination. Maybe you got drilled in that you weren't special or whatever. For the longest time i actually tried to change to fit what everyone, much like you people, told me to change. However, i realized that i'm never going to change and there is a reason why. I'm not one of the bunch, i'm not average, and i don't settle with what i'm given. I am, and have, something that your average person doesn't. You can tell me how no one is different than me and blah blah, but people quit halfway when things get tough. That's human nature. If you can't do the last rep of an exercise, you will be done. However, i re-do the whole set until i can finish it all off. It is the same with everything i do. In whatever i do, i don't lose. I either win or win.

@Floyd: You were the one that attacked me. I kept evading it and you kept telling me i was a narcissist and this and that. Don't start something you can't finish. Ban me? I haven't broken any rules and i think i can contribute a lot to this forum.

@Zekko: You see how hypocritical that sounds? Either you believe in yourself and that mindset or you don't. There is no in between. Everyone here has an issue with me because i won't change my way of thinking into fitting EVERYONE else's? Does that make sense to you? "I'd rather you call me ****y for living like i believe, that i'm a king."

 

[Darth]

"That's the thing. I'm not ONE of the common."

You are, friend. You just don't know it. Nothing wrong with wearing nice clothes and being successful at business, etc. But that doesn't make you who you are.

You have a monstrous ego and I am telling you because I know- the bigger your ego is, the bigger are the problems/weaknesses that that ego was constructed to cover up.

 

[JoeMarron]

It sounds like you should just focus on world domination and not concern yourself with the lowly peasants of the world. Since youre so incredibly spectacular I dont understand why women dont just throw themselves on your divine manhood as soon as you walk in the room but that doesnt matter.

Youre fabulously wealthy so if the task of making the world bow down and submit to your magnificent glory becomes too stressful; you could always hire a few expensive escorts to blow off some steam with.

 

[Ronaldo7]

"That's the thing. I'm not ONE of the common."

You are, friend. You just don't know it. Nothing wrong with wearing nice clothes and being successful at business, etc. But that doesn't make you who you are.

You have a monstrous ego and I am telling you because I know- the bigger your ego is, the bigger are the problems/weaknesses that that ego was constructed to cover up.

I know i'm not one of the common. Maybe you think you are common, just like everyone else. What makes me who i am? You are clearly designed to think of yourself as equal to everyone else. That's the type of people who are the "Average Joe".

I have a big ego, but i wouldn't say i have a monstrous one. Everyone has problems, who doesn't? However, i don't use my ego to cover them up. What i'm typing is what i truly believe.

@Joe: Hahaha. Your response is actually funny. Thanks for the compliment though.

 

[Darth]

I know i'm not one of the common. Maybe you think you are common, just like everyone else. What makes me who i am? You are clearly designed to think of yourself as equal to everyone else. That's the type of people who are the "Average Joe".

Listen buddy, I think you are full of sh!t. I used to have a big ego too, I used to think I was better than everybody else, that the worst thing in the world was to be average. You know what? I was wrong.

I still have high standards. I am still in pursuit of excellence. I have many of the same professional goals that I used to have. But the motivation is altogether different. I think that every one of my days is a gift from God. I could literally drop dead at any moment. All of my possessions are God's on loan. All of my talents and abilities- from God, on loan. I'm on borrowed time, buddy. Everybody dies and that includes you. Then what good is that big ego you've been feeding? I pursue success so I can try to thank/repay God for the gifts I've been given- not to puff myself up, which is what I used to believe.

Whether you share my own philosophy or not, the point remains that you are a legend in your OWN MIND. Nobody else thinks of you that way. It is a comforting fantasy to think you are better than everybody else, but I'm telling you- underneath that is anger, pain, and a sh!tload of childhood problems.

This is the last I'll say on this topic. Good luck to you.