"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Better body or better face?

If you had to choose, which would you take?

  • A bangin' body and not so great face

    Votes: 27 67.5%
  • A pretty face and not so great body

    Votes: 13 32.5%

  • Total voters
    40

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I was in the store today and saw this girl walk by hand in hand with this guy. Her face was nothing that would turn any heads. It was "ok" at best. But her body was like BANGIN', big titties, showing cleavage, nice voluptuous curvy figure, nice ass, flat stomach and knew how to show it off. I had to turn my head look back at that ass when she went by. Here I was in the store geeking out buying a new mouse and an FM modulator not even thinking about anything else, then all of sudden, BAM... that was the kinda ass that makes your testosterone level shoot from 0-60 in half a second!

At that point something occured to me, for the first time, I can say that I like bodies better than faces. I think I'd take a girl with a bangin' body and a so so face over a girl with a beautiful face but not so nice body. I used to always think the face was the most important, but I think a girl with a not great face and a body that's a 10, I think I can be happy with that. Obviously, if you could have both nice face and body, you'd take that, but if someone forced you to choose, which would you take?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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i dont know how much of an inexperienced virgin you are, but all the players out there know the CARDINAL RULE of dating:

hot body = sex no strings attached

hot face = relationship
 

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Real said:
i dont know how much of an inexperienced virgin you are, but all the players out there know the CARDINAL RULE of dating:

hot body = sex no strings attached

hot face = relationship
Then I guess sosuave must be majority virgins looking at the poll results.
 

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Real said:
i dont know how much of an inexperienced virgin you are, but all the players out there know the CARDINAL RULE of dating:

hot body = sex no strings attached

hot face = relationship
I don't know how much of a virgin you are, but pretty much every girl I fvck wants a relationship. Maybe you just don't lay it down right...
 

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A hot face only goes so far with me...

The last few days I've been absolutely fiending a girl in my gym. Best ass ever. Honestly... It's legendary. It forms like a perfect C shape.. She's also an NCAA athlete which is sort of cool.

Sounds like it's time for me to get on that...

But yeah, if she dresses well in nice tight clothes, and has a gorgeous body... Damn that's where I'll be. You guys can wrestle over the malnutritioned angel-faces...

Off topic... Do you guys ever notice that you can TELL if a girl has a nice face when you only see her body? Like walking past a girl on the street from behind, she's got a great body, you just know there's a good face on it?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There is always a solution to ugly faces: paperbag...

Sorry, but you can't **** a woman when her whole body is covered in a potato sack...
 

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I voted for pretty faces but there are a lot of reasons and variables.

If your just trying to get a root, then I'm sure you wont mind if she has a plain face if she is sporting a nice @ss, huge tits and a killer body. But in a relationship, what are you going to be looking at more? Face or body? Hmm, maybe she wont be wearing those skimpy clothes all the time.

On Australian big brother there were these two chicks. One had a fricken hot body, but an average face that I wouldn't rate at all. The other girl had a hot as face, and a decent body. I would take the second one every time.

But hey, why can't you have both ;)
 

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its really rare for the face to be super hot and the body to be butt ugly.

usually its a super hot face and an 'ok'.

whereas you can often have a banging body but ugly face.

so given those are the scenarios you will likely face, i'll take the hot face and ok body over the banging body but ugly face.
 

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joekerr31 said:
its really rare for the face to be super hot and the body to be butt ugly.

usually its a super hot face and an 'ok'.

whereas you can often have a banging body but ugly face.

so given those are the scenarios you will likely face, i'll take the hot face and ok body over the banging body but ugly face.

^^^^^

What he said
 

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SinJester said:
On Australian big brother there were these two chicks. One had a fricken hot body, but an average face that I wouldn't rate at all. The other girl had a hot as face, and a decent body. I would take the second one every time.
and for the benefit of all the guys who haven't seen the two chicks he's referring to:
http://classic.fhm.com.au/emmasusannah/
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hot face obviously

Body can always be improved

But then again it depends on what you are choosing for? Relationship vs sex are 2 different things.
 

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Mr. Cantthinkofausername, I actually thought Emma was kinda ugly. You could replace Aleisha with Susannah.

ts really rare for the face to be super hot and the body to be butt ugly.

usually its a super hot face and an 'ok'.

whereas you can often have a banging body but ugly face.

so given those are the scenarios you will likely face, i'll take the hot face and ok body over the banging body but ugly face.
Ditto. I she is really bad in one area your mind probably tricks you into degarding her other area too.
 

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Depends on the degree of each. Could go either way. But the bod's usually the deal-breaker for me, as far as sexual attraction goes, so I went with #1.
 

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For one night stands or fbuddy go for the great body. It might often be even dark and you can always do it from behind...

For relationship go for the face. Body can be worked. If you think it cant, body again.
 
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Tyron said:
For one night stands or fbuddy go for the great body. It might often be even dark and you can always do it from behind...

For relationship go for the face. Body can be worked. If you think it cant, body again.
Yup, it all looks good from behind
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Get real, it all feels good in the dark. If you're gonna be out in public, sitting across tables from her and such - eeeee, go for the pretty face. Plus they look nicer when they blow you.
 

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When I walk past a hot woman on the street and I'm eyeing her, my eyes are mostly checking out what's below the neck, regardless of what her face looks like.
 
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