"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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beta orbiter confessed - gf still friends with him

smurfs

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- beta orbiter has been friends with the gf for 5 years
- gf becomes single, beta orbiter confesses love for her, she rejects him cause she was 'seeing' me
- awkward moments ensue when group catch ups occur however eventually they become friends again and are talking on the regular.

Question:
Should I be concerned or feel a level of disrespect in that my gf has still remained good friends with this orbiter even though she has already rejected his confession?
I feel somewhat uncomfortable with this thought however am inclined to let it pass...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Normally, you'd have nothing to be concerned about. It's unlikely she's attracted to him, sounds like he's hardcore in the friend zone. If she starts putting him first or doing anything you don't like (sleeping in a bed with him), I'd probably find a female friend to do the same thing with and see if she likes it. Indifference is always the way to go, though. Jealousy has never, ever yielded positive results for me.
 

Syrio

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I don't think this is anything to be concerned OR offended by. I think that if you follow indeed's advice and hang out with other women specifically in response to her hanging out with the beta friend, then you are letting jealousy get to you. I mean, of course it's fine to hang out with other women, but don't do it just to 'get back' at her for hanging out with some guy.

And furthermore I would bet that the chances anything would ever happen between the two of them are slim to none. I've seen this scenario that you are describing countless times. In my experience, the beta never gets the girl but they almost always remain friends (at least for a time). I think your best bet is to not even concern yourself with the issue.

Your girlfriend is an average girl. Take that how you want, personally I think its a big negative.
lol what a useless comment. Let's just try to upset people without any intention of benefiting anybody, and provide no reasoning for our absurd claims.
 

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smurfs said:
Question:
Should I be concerned or feel a level of disrespect in that my gf has still remained good friends with this orbiter even though she has already rejected his confession?
I feel somewhat uncomfortable with this thought however am inclined to let it pass...
Why would she give up the free attention she receives from him? He confessed his love....got denied.....and still gives his attention to her. She most likely sees him as a "brother".

You dont feel "disrespected"....thats a cover for feeling "insecure". You fear her hooking up with him...lets be honest. Good news is you most likely have nothing to fear. Women are going to monopolize attention, especially when they dont have to sleep with the guy to get it.....either understand this important concept or switch to dating men. ALL WOMEN will get attention from OTHER MEN.

Unless she crosses a "major line" or cheats, its not a big deal....and no...."having a conversation" is NOT a "major line".
 

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Just enjoy the time of being on the good side right now lol
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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donking

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do you want to date an attention ho? do you?

I made my ex-wife delete all her guy friends before we got serious. She complied on the spot. Do it.

Everyone has their own line to cross. It bothered you enough to post. So either tell her to delete this guy or you'll delete her from your life. I usually tell the girl to get rid of ALL of them.

It is okay to keep looking for a new girl. Don't settle.
 

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You are all very right here...

I will need to work on my inner game more to overcome insecurities rather than throwing the reason of disrespect to give me leverage.

@PairPlusRoyalFlush you are also correct.. she is 'average' compared to the quality of the other girls I have dated and she lacks much relationship experience due to her previous ex giving her free reign (long distance) for 4+ years.

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Today she visited another one of her close orbiters at his workplace in a shopping centre which drew out further insecurities from me as I coaxed her into basically telling me she hung out with him (she only mentioned the shopping centre).

Basically should I internalize that i shouldn't be worried about her 1on1 catch ups with 'guy friends' due to the beta bux, alpha fux theory?
 

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Don't be jealous because you have nothing to be jealous about. He's doing everything "wrong" and she doesn't see him as a sexual being.

If you don't want her hanging out with him, just tell her you don't think it's appropriate for her to hang out one-on-one with a guy that has feelings for her, but that it's OK to see him in a group or text/talk/whatever.

That's what I've done before and I've had no complaints. If she says something like "well he's only a friend I can see him 1-on-1", just repeat "I don't think that's appropriate." She'll get the idea. If not, you know what to do.
 
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