"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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Beta-male gets the girl!?! huh???

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Titanic (the movie) is back this weekend. And it brings up a question that has never been answered to me in the last 15 years. Why does Rose (Kate Winslet) go for the beta male Jack Dawson (Leonardo DeCaprio) instead of the guy alpha male she was engaged to (i forgot his name) who is taller, richer, more powerful, and generally more alpha than Jack? Never understood it, I guess that is why titanic is fiction. Any ideas?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Desdinova said:
It's because Titanic was made with the audience of women and beta males in mind
This is perfect.

OP: Why do you think every girl loves that movie so much?
 

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Why is he "beta" ? Because he's not as rich?

Being an alpha male is a state of mind, not an occupation or a title.

and honestly, you guys are too hung up on this "alpha male/beta male" stuff. Different women like different things.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Single4Life said:
and honestly, you guys are too hung up on this "alpha male/beta male" stuff. Different women like different things.
lies

ban him from the forum for having a dissenting opinion, quick

all power to the hypno-toad
 

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Jack Dawson gets the girl because he was confident and acted on his own intentions. He wasnt an emotional tampon and didnt care what others thought of him. He didnt put her on a pedestal even tho she was hot and of higher status.
 

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funny you mention this

on my little blog I put together a whole list (obviously not complete) of movies that show unrealistic sexual/PU scenarios... Beta guys that are good looking can still get hot chicks, but the scenarios that Hollywood draws up are often quite ridiculous. the girl literally 'seduces the guy' 'escalates toward sex' and stick his c0ck in her. haha

now obviously, this isn't ALL movies. but there's a lot!

just for fun
http://www.goodlookingloser.com/2012/01/25/beta-male-in-movies/
 

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Jack ain't Beta. Plus, the movie setting takes place on a boat, because it is separate world on its on. In real life she would bang Jack all the way to New York without the other guy knowing and would ditch his poor as$ once ashore.
 

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Truth is....... in one out of say seven possible relationships( in the relatively less probable cases) a babe would pick a near-beta over a near-alpha.....

this happens as a result of lots of issues....she's heard bout his exploits(djs here cant tell me they've not had this happen to them) and she's guards up with you, she has just had a bad boy do her some bad or maybe she's the exception that values gifts and attention more than the usual.... whatever, you get my point.

funny thing is, ive seen babes both bang the alpha dude and the beta dude simultaneously/consecutively (for reasons best known to them).

as much as we have lotsss of betas, a lot of dudes aren't clear betas. they arent just schooled in the game but are still skilled enough to get a good lay every now and then eg. i was gettin pvssy before i started don-juanism.

this is not enough reason to even give "betaism'' a chance in your life! the odds favour an alpha male greatly. plus in the case of jack, he was not a total beta.... just for the fact he didnt let her higher status weigh him down and he got his interaction flowing! if it were real life, i'd bet that looks also had a role to play.

if a beta dude was just capable of being a little sexual and INITIATING a convo with 5 random babes everyday nonstop , he sooner or later would become a selector of ladies.

Stay alpha though, the difference is clear
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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This sh*t only happens in the movies. Movies are fictional, entertaining, and usually cater to the female and beta demographic.

Always stay alpha. :yes:

Case dismissed. :rolleyes:
 

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The real question is why couldn't rose move her a** and let Jack on the drift board.. there was more than enough room on it for two...
 

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Single4Life said:
Why is he "beta" ? Because he's not as rich?

Being an alpha male is a state of mind, not an occupation or a title.

and honestly, you guys are too hung up on this "alpha male/beta male" stuff. Different women like different things.
I agree. There's way too much "was this alpha?" talk on here.


I'll always believe that:

1) Alphas are born. Not made.

and

2) An Alpha is too busy being alpha to refer to himself as "alpha"
 

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He had confidence.

He had the b@lls to save her from killing herself.

He had the rugged outdoorsman body. Thus, he was good fling material, not necessarily LTR material. It's sort of like a woman F-ing the rugged pool boy instead of the millionaire that owns the pool.

Plus, her mom was pushing the alpha guy on her daughter because he's rich.
Women HATE to be fixed up. The more you push a guy into her arms, the more she will be repulsed by him.
 

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What is hollywood in the business of selling?

Fantasy.

If movies were based in reality, nobody would watch.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Right, look, I don't care what the context of the conversation is, there are a bunch of men discussing Titanic on a forum.
Man the **** up!
It's a ****ing movie, it's not real life!
New levels of stupidity have been reached here.
 

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The Hockley character becomes all embarrassed and jealous when Rose and Jack get it off. Hockley eventually ends up framing Jack... and then trying to shoot him. That's a pretty massive blunder for someone so 'alpha.'
 

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If you remember the alpha was boring and he hit her. The vast majority of women don't like guys who do either of those.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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