"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Best way to steal a girl from another dude?

Jaxon

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There's this girl I know that I've been diggin' on, there's only one problem: she's got a boyfriend. I don't know the guy and I could care less about him, and they aren't married so she's fair game in my book.

I want to know what you guys think is the best strategy to "go after" a girl with a boyfriend, or what tactics you've used in the past that have worked.

I know I'm the prize and she needs to be working for me, but it seems like it could be tough to maintain that while she's at least semi-content with her boyfriend. It also seems like you would have to try to sell yourself as being better than him, which is a big no-no for a DJ.

What do you veteran DJs think?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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plenty of fish in the sea.. this girl is probably nothing special.. get out there and find yourself somebody single.. i gaurentee you most likely she's not worth the extra effort..
 

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Use your regualar gameplay...

The thing about this is as your talking to the chick more and more she's going to be choosing who the cooler guy is. Another way is doing Buying Temperature to your advantage to cause the lay to happen...then she will backwards rationalize it and it will be left up to how she rationalizes it.
 

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Find some emotional hole he's not filling in her life to fill the hole you really wish to fill.

After that just make her have a lot of fun being around you.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Jaxon said:
There's this girl I know that I've been diggin' on, there's only one problem: she's got a boyfriend. I don't know the guy and I could care less about him, and they aren't married so she's fair game in my book.

I want to know what you guys think is the best strategy to "go after" a girl with a boyfriend, or what tactics you've used in the past that have worked.

I know I'm the prize and she needs to be working for me, but it seems like it could be tough to maintain that while she's at least semi-content with her boyfriend. It also seems like you would have to try to sell yourself as being better than him, which is a big no-no for a DJ.

What do you veteran DJs think?

Maybe you should get over your one-itis and go find yourself some single women. If your the prize why are you wasting your time on one woman WITH a boyfriend? Have you read the DJ Bible?
 

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you never steal a gf from her man. If she wants to go, then there would be no reason to pos tthis.

the problem with this thread is that you plan on putting "effort" into getting this girl. big no-no

if she wants to leave her bf for you already...then thats a different story.
 

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Do you really want to be with a broad that you know has no problem cheating on her man, or leaving him at the drop of a dime?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Use reverse psychology to talk up the bf - 'you two make a cute couple; he seems like a really nice guy.' This will elicit from her responses that begin with, "yeah, but..." You talk him up, she talks him down. This is the opposite convo that most guys get; they try to amog with insults, and the gf ends up defending her man. Tease her about her bf like she is your little sister who just got her very first bf.
 

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Be, "the better man" and she'll gravitate towards you. Otherwise, find yourself another fish. Don't be so closed-minded, and lazy.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Use reverse psychology to talk up the bf - 'you two make a cute couple; he seems like a really nice guy.' This will elicit from her responses that begin with, "yeah, but..." You talk him up, she talks him down. This is the opposite convo that most guys get; they try to amog with insults, and the gf ends up defending her man. Tease her about her bf like she is your little sister who just got her very first bf.
Thats a very interesting idea. I will try using it on the practice girls I know. I'm sure most guys try to forget that a BF was ever mentioned and not talk about him if she brings him up. I know I do that.
 

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i'm doing the same thing too...

i'm sitting writing notes about sex to her in the same class in college while she's knitting a sweater for her basketball team boyfriend.... i tell her all kinds of crazy stuff like " i want you to be my girlfriend". she tells me it's impossible for her to love me because she has a boyfriend and i don't care..... i get a kick out of it. is this bad? like i said..i don't care..

what works well is when i tell her stuff like that we're not fit for each other, and that we're different. i also found if i insinuated thoughts in her mind too heavily it turns "dirty".....but then i would withdraw the thought by saying how it wouldn't work anyway and she begins to chase just a little bit.

there is an inner hoe in every woman.
 

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i cant believe this thread. do a search on gf cheated
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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well i've had a girlfriend being swept away by an ex. this is something that i find very important in advancing my game. how can i avoid something like that happening to me in the future?

the way i like to think of it is: you're giving her what she wants. there are a lot of people just stuck in relationships with problems. girls that are with cheating boyfriends. girls that are with abusive jerks. i'm all for better relationships and by being the one who provides it then it can help me advance and share my experience for others to learn from.
 

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Jaxon said:
There's this girl I know that I've been diggin' on, there's only one problem: she's got a boyfriend. I don't know the guy and I could care less about him, and they aren't married so she's fair game in my book.

I want to know what you guys think is the best strategy to "go after" a girl with a boyfriend, or what tactics you've used in the past that have worked.

I know I'm the prize and she needs to be working for me, but it seems like it could be tough to maintain that while she's at least semi-content with her boyfriend. It also seems like you would have to try to sell yourself as being better than him, which is a big no-no for a DJ.

What do you veteran DJs think?
The best thing to do is to not do to it.
REmemeber that everything u do in the world comes back to you.
Would you want some guy to take your gf in a serious relationship?
 

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xdreamz said:
well i've had a girlfriend being swept away by an ex. this is something that i find very important in advancing my game. how can i avoid something like that happening to me in the future?

the way i like to think of it is: you're giving her what she wants. there are a lot of people just stuck in relationships with problems. girls that are with cheating boyfriends. girls that are with abusive jerks. i'm all for better relationships and by being the one who provides it then it can help me advance and share my experience for others to learn from.
sorry bro... i really dont think there is anything you can do to avoid it. ppl cheat unfortunately. its not even always for valid reasons.

simply put. if you arent getting the job done, then they are going to get their medicine from other suppliers. be the BEST you can be for YOURSELF..and dont make a women your life and you should be fine
 

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... be yourself and you'll be fine. that's fine. we're all fine and everything will be spectacular. it's what's inside of YOU and how you do justice and what you do with yourself.
 

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but yea those tyler durden posts are gold. most of the time girls don't know what it is that they're missing........ these posts actually help you be that good guy and see you in a better light. as that superman lover ... so you're kind of hiding your weaknesses and being that guy.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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