"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Best place to me NEW women other than bars/clubs?

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I suck at the bar scene and besides I'm not interested in random one night stands, looking to date and possible relationship. Online is a waste of time. Where is the best place to casually meet NEW women (IE, not friends of people you know, or your usual crew)?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Depends on your age.

At 23, my best bet is colleges. Either in 'common' lounge areas or libraries. Just because there's so many girls my age around, and also it's less common for them to be married or be in long term relationships.



I've also heard a lot of people say that bookstores like Barnes and Noble are good places. I've never tried that--It feels weird bugging people when they are trying to shop.
 

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The malls are good as well if you like them younger....

College Campus

Church (but beware my xx was a psycho who i met at church)

peace
 

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social circles, hang out with friends of friends, go to parties, etc.

its best to have friends introduce other friends...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Solomon said:
The malls are good as well if you like them younger....

College Campus

Church (but beware my xx was a psycho who i met at church)

peace
Hey solo my man, you got any mall tips for the older group? where you from anyway man?
 

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Daniel1099 said:
social circles, hang out with friends of friends, go to parties, etc.

its best to have friends introduce other friends...
In the OP I said NEW women and specifically NOT friends of friends/social circle. I'm 26 years old with a masters degree already so I've been done with college, not an option.

I hear the old bookstore thing too but it seems most people there don't want to be bothered. As far as coffee shops go, it seems like thats sorta an option but I very rarely see women there alone, and if they are they are reading and/or doing homework.

I guess I should rephrase my question. Where are you most likely to encounter women who are actually looking for someone (not as a hook up but to get to know each other)?
 

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Dance classes, cooking classes, yoga classes, self-defense classes, grocery stores, anywhere. Girls are everywhere. If there aren't any where you live by, maybe you should move to a bigger city. I live in Chicago and there's an endless supply of girls.
 

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I will stick with somethingclevers advice, u can hit on women everywhere, but if u want something called a monoply....^stick with that. they r usually very friendly classes and dance....o boy, lets just say the women r the ones fighting for the partners and usually most people come by themselves.
 

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Park, grocery store, book store, mall, partys, star bucks...
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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When the buffalo would migrate the Indians would follow them. Be like the Indian.
 

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Basically any club/group. it gives you something in common right away and an excuse to meet up.
 

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zarathustra said:
When the buffalo would migrate the Indians would follow them. Be like the Indian.
Great advice in the current economy -- quit your job, pick up, and move someplace where more girls are. :rolleyes:
 

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Shawn241 said:
In the OP I said NEW women and specifically NOT friends of friends/social circle. I'm 26 years old with a masters degree already so I've been done with college, not an option.

I hear the old bookstore thing too but it seems most people there don't want to be bothered. As far as coffee shops go, it seems like thats sorta an option but I very rarely see women there alone, and if they are they are reading and/or doing homework.

I guess I should rephrase my question. Where are you most likely to encounter women who are actually looking for someone (not as a hook up but to get to know each other)?
At 26, you can still find girls at dance classes, yoga class, kickboxing class, cooking class, but the chances that she is hot are very low, as compared to 1st and 2nd year college.
 

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So where do we exactly meet hot women?

DonJuan11 said:
At 26, you can still find girls at dance classes, yoga class, kickboxing class, cooking class, but the chances that she is hot are very low, as compared to 1st and 2nd year college.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DonJuan11 said:
At 26, you can still find girls at dance classes, yoga class, kickboxing class, cooking class, but the chances that she is hot are very low, as compared to 1st and 2nd year college.
Most 1st or 2nd year college girls (18-19) are going to look like little girls to a 26 yr old anyways. I prefer them 20+ when they're a bit more seasoned and learn how to apply make up and dress just right.

Shawn241, best places to meet women is to just get out. Go to the grocery stores, casual parties, comedy clubs, carnivals, cookouts, parks, bookstores, etc ..you're likely to find several women that interest you if you can find time for yourself and explore your city.
 

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library, video game store, music store, everywhere
 

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I went to a cardio kickboxing class at 24 hour fitness last Saturday. I was the only guy there...
 

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You meet girls the second you walk out the door

Why limit yourself ? Bars, Clubs, malls, Grocery Stores, Starbucks, Church, Sporting events, concerts, Online dating, Blind dates, Hooking up through friends, work, park, beach, walking down sidewalk, bus stops,

You meet girls by just living....You don't go out looking for them like it's a hunting trip lol Just LIVE and have fun and girls will pick up on tjhe fact you would be a blast to hang out with

be aware of girls around you at all times and the vibes you get from them...most guys end up meeting hot ass girls when they aren't even trying and dont expect anything to happen

I don't think you will find one magic place where you go and meet girls all day long lol Just put yourself out in a bunch of different situations and see what bites
 

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suavesuave said:
library, video game store, music store, everywhere
I've never seen hot women at the video game store.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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