"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Best Friend Planning On Moving In with GF of 8 months! Advice!!!

The_411

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This has train wreck written all over it. I'd tell him read No More Mister Nice Guy and then if after that he still wants to move in then he can do what he wants. You can't make the horse drink. Everyone knows what's coming she'll get distant, cheat on him, and eventually break up with him and he'll have wasted time and money on someone who isn't worth it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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It sounds like he's probably made up his mind and he's going to take the plunge. If his passivity had already been brought up and it's an issue, then that's a bad, bad, omen. Women detest weak men, and it may just be a matter of time before her attraction level plummets. Your friend needs a crash course in maintaining frame and being a challenge, or she's going to walk all over him for a year then ditch him for the nearest a**hole. The one who cares the least in a relationship holds the power.
 

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Personally I think cohabitation outside of marriage is weak sauce. It's a half-ass commitment and is statistically more likely to end in marital dissolution. I just don't buy the whole "trail marriage" argument. Rubbish. I've drawn a line in the sand there.
Completely agree 100%. You don't live together to "see" if you guys are compatible for marriage. You figure that out first, then if you must, live together for a few months prior to getting married.

My buddy, love him to death is a flat out beta to the max.

And it ended up okay once... and as a huge expense the second time.
Breaking a lease because of a breakup is not fun and not exactly cheap.
Been there too bro, did it once at 24, never again. Had to break the lease early as well, total nightmare & change in behavior from her.
 

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The_411 said:
This has train wreck written all over it. I'd tell him read No More Mister Nice Guy and then if after that he still wants to move in then he can do what he wants. You can't make the horse drink. Everyone knows what's coming she'll get distant, cheat on him, and eventually break up with him and he'll have wasted time and money on someone who isn't worth it.
Not sure if I'd call it a train wreck, but it will def be a learning experience.

The major difference though is my buddy operates out of the scarcity mentality.

Telling him to read a book is utterly pointless because not only did I introduce him to game 10 years ago, he is completely incapable of going out in the field and practicing.

We talk about AFC's here who are pathetic or lack confidence & mess up.

Well guess what? Here we have a guy who can't even take the first step.

I've opened girls at the bar, got in good with them, then walked away to meet more people. Upon re-approaching I've told him to initiate the conversation & he absolutely freezes up completely & can't do it.

Its so wild to see all the things I've read about over the years come true as I get older. The main point being that as women get closer to hitting the wall, they will always pick a beta AFC nice guy to settle down with, even though that is NOT who they are ultimately attracted to....

This relationship from my perspective is about a woman who has had & controlled the frame since day 1 & a guy who is just happy to have some pu$$y.









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zekko

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If this guy couldn't even take the first step toward appying game, maybe he just isn't cut out for it. Maybe this AFC relationship is the best he can do.

He can either end up alone and miserable, married and henpecked and miserable, or divorced and miserable. Sounds like those are his choices. This is why you have to "man up" and take control of your life instead of being a passive marshmellow.

On the other hand, maybe crashing and burning with this relationship will be just the experience he needs to see the light.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Pimp-sicle said:
Not sure if I'd call it a train wreck, but it will def be a learning experience.

The major difference though is my buddy operates out of the scarcity mentality.

Telling him to read a book is utterly pointless because not only did I introduce him to game 10 years ago, he is completely incapable of going out in the field and practicing.

We talk about AFC's here who are pathetic or lack confidence & mess up.

Well guess what? Here we have a guy who can't even take the first step.

I've opened girls at the bar, got in good with them, then walked away to meet more people. Upon re-approaching I've told him to initiate the conversation & he absolutely freezes up completely & can't do it.

Its so wild to see all the things I've read about over the years come true as I get older. The main point being that as women get closer to hitting the wall, they will always pick a beta AFC nice guy to settle down with, even though that is NOT who they are ultimately attracted to....

This relationship from my perspective is about a woman who has had & controlled the frame since day 1 & a guy who is just happy to have some pu$$y.









PIMP
Great posts man, im new on here finally registered but been a long time reader, this one helped me out a lot in my life, thanks a million , Legendary one

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55034
 

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Unfortunately, you can't help him until he asks. I've tried it with numerous friends and they only end up getting pissed off at you because no one really enjoys hearing uncomfortable truths, that is, until something really f-cked up happens.

You have to realize you're having a direct conflict with his socialization and ego. It's a tough nut to crack and isn't worth it. I speak my mind on this forum but I try to keep these opinions to myself because it'll only get me into unnecessary trouble.
 
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