Best Friend is Sabotaging my Frame

[Thundernuts]

Okay so not too long ago I'm doing some drawings for my Civil Engineering class and I asked this girl next to me if she had a compass. We get to talking and turns out she has a computer class with my friend. He thinks she is hot
(Got to give her a 7.5, she has a great body but very strong Celtic features, attractive none the less) He invites her over to his place and we are all hanging out watching some standup comedy. I'm thinking this chick is pretty cool and that my buddy is gonna **** it up since he is a complete AFC.

Naturally my friend brings up dating, she is single. She asks us if we were single to wich we both say yes, my friend then says he's single because women don't want to date him (cry me a river) and he says im single because I only date Slvts.

This was like a blow to the gut that i just didn't see coming.

Anyways to shorten things up, this girl is started to get really irritated with my friend because he won't allow her and I to be alone, he even skipped his class to come with us to walmart. Now when i began talking to her I didn't really have the intention of gaming her I was just talking to her, but since she was introduced to my friend it seems his true colors I starting to come out.

To sum it up
1. He won't leave us alone
2. When we are together he won't shut the hell up, always talking about how badass he is and how much stuff he knows
3. He puts me down in front of her, I mean we all talk crap but we don't insult eachother like this in front of others

Does anyone here have any advice on what I need to do? I dont want to kick his ass or anything but I don't even really know how to try and talk to him about this he is one of those guys that thinks they are always right.

 

[Tictac]

He asked her over.

Think about it.

Now you ask her out.

By the way..... don't invite him.

 

[DemFeeelz]

Okay so not too long ago I'm doing some drawings for my Civil Engineering class and I asked this girl next to me if she had a compass. We get to talking and turns out she has a computer class with my friend. He thinks she is hot
(Got to give her a 7.5, she has a great body but very strong Celtic features, attractive none the less) He invites her over to his place and we are all hanging out watching some standup comedy. I'm thinking this chick is pretty cool and that my buddy is gonna **** it up since he is a complete AFC.

Naturally my friend brings up dating, she is single. She asks us if we were single to wich we both say yes, my friend then says he's single because women don't want to date him (cry me a river) and he says im single because I only date Slvts.

This was like a blow to the gut that i just didn't see coming.

Anyways to shorten things up, this girl is started to get really irritated with my friend because he won't allow her and I to be alone, he even skipped his class to come with us to walmart. Now when i began talking to her I didn't really have the intention of gaming her I was just talking to her, but since she was introduced to my friend it seems his true colors I starting to come out.

To sum it up
1. He won't leave us alone
2. When we are together he won't shut the hell up, always talking about how badass he is and how much stuff he knows
3. He puts me down in front of her, I mean we all talk crap but we don't insult eachother like this in front of others

Does anyone here have any advice on what I need to do? I dont want to kick his ass or anything but I don't even really know how to try and talk to him about this he is one of those guys that thinks they are always right.

He's only winging for you by helping her want you more. Let him keep doing what he's doing and he'll learn the hard way.

Have her around or go out with her and turn your phone off when you aren't at school. Take her number and set up your own plans without him around. Easy.

 

[Thundernuts]

He asked her over.

Think about it.

Now you ask her out.

By the way..... don't invite him.

One step ahead of you Tictac, I'm taking her to the county fair tomorrow.

Only reason I even started this thread is because I can already tell eventually somebody is gonna start some crap and I always just assumed My friends and I were above this kinda crap. I mean I don't really know this girl all that well but at the same time I'm interested.

Can't get a handle on it

 

[Soolaimon]

Set an useless boundary with her.

Just kidding.

Doesn't sound like a good friend to me.

What best friend would do that to his buddy?

Establish value over him.

She will be smart enough to recognize quality.

Go from there!

 

[jimmy18]

If that is how your "best" friend treats you, I wonder how your other friends treat you

 

[Thundernuts]

If that is how your "best" friend treats you, I wonder how your other friends treat you

Well jimmy18 I work 40 hours a week during school usually 90 a week in the summer and winter, i don't have alot of friends especially since im not from around here.

People in this part of texas are very conservative, but they aren't very welcoming to strangers like me who don't have anything to offer them.

Southern hospitality is a joke man.

 

[Skyline]

Your friend just **** blocked you.

It looks like that you and your friend are this girls only choice for some reason, and your friend is pretty much giving her to you by pursuing so hard. The rule that I go by is: whoever she talks to the most on the first encounter, and if you or your buddy is reciprocating, then that is technically calling "dibs." That's when I generally fall back and don't really talk unless the conversation is at a pause/silence or whatever. People who understand some forms of attraction get this, but for AFC's... It's all about them. They don't care about you or anyone else in fact they'll betray you at the drop of a vag*na. Like what your friend just did.

My best friend is an AFC and I remember a time in my sophomore year of high school he did this to me and I was confused as all hell. I initially went after this girl and I told him about it, he told me she was a wh*re and to go after someone else. About 2 weeks later I find out he's going after her, I was a bit upset and he didn't understand that. He thought I was upset because I "was sad about not having a girl and being unattractive." Obviously I understand him now and its one of the reasons why I don't share my personal experience with women with him anymore or anyone else. I would either seclude that friend from your dating life or get rid of him all together. My best friend is only poisonous to my dating life, which is why he's sort of still around.

I'm still waiting for the day that we go to a club and I watch him "get girls." I've even told him that I would tag along with a random chair and just sit there doing nothing but sipping a drink and observe his "ways" of getting women. In all honesty I think he'd freeze up in night game and he'd have too much approach anxiety for day game- I don't think he has game! This guy still somehow gets girls, it wasn't until I joined this site that I realized that as long as she finds you attractive then game is basie irrelevant in the short run.

Anyway... He's doing almost all of the work for you dude. Let him be an AFC while you and her are "secret lovers." Or if you value your friendship then either tell him that she likes you or that she told you that she didn't like him. It sucks because hes probably going to be mad at you regardless of what you say but if he were to get the girl he would play it off in an *sshole way and tell you "maybe she has a friend" crap. I'm bros before hoes, but if my bro is the opposite then I basically seclude him from a lot of activities and advice in regards to women.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

P!ss on your friend to establish dominance over him. Literally.

Ok, if you can't take a leak on him, then there is something else you could do which is to ask her out sometime right in front of him when he's acting nuts like you describe. She either accepts or doesn't, but you've given her a chance right there and if she wants you, she'll go for it.

If she's smart enough, and probably is, she sees what he's doing too.

 

[El Payaso]

Doesn't sound like a friend to me.

 

[mangotot]

If you consider people who do this as 'best friends', I wonder what sort of stuff people who are merely 'friends' of yours do to you?

 

[zekko]

He invites her over to his place and we are all hanging out watching some standup comedy. I'm thinking this chick is pretty cool and that my buddy is gonna **** it up since he is a complete AFC.

He said he thinks she is hot. He invited her over to his place.
I'm not saying you did anything wrong because it sounds like he is a loser who didn't know how to make a move. But from his viewpoint he probably was wondering why you were hitting on the girl he invited over, to the point where you guys were going to go to Wal-Mart without him.

Okay, maybe the guy is a loser, but it doesn't sound like you are the best friend to him either. "Here, friend, I'll fvck this girl for you, you're just going to screw it up anyway".

 

[dasein]

Agree with zekko. Your hands aren't clean here. There is a definite subtextual pissing contest going on, women pick up on this, and you are CBing him as much as he is you. Did she -say- she wants to be alone with you? If that's what she wants, and she's in your friend's house expecting him to clear out, that's some low quality there. Women who want to be alone with you will leave then contact you to meet later. If you have set up this dynamic of you and her condescending to your friend in some way, that's not cool in his house during his plans. This is why when friends meet women and ask them to do something, stay away. Women love these little drama attention doses that are causing frustration for you and your friend. She is milking you both.

Since you have already asked her out, just go with it and conduct as usual.

In the future, if a friend invites a girl you also like over or pursues her first, and you haven't yet asked her out, stay away for a set period of time, 30 days is enough, sometimes less. Don't talk about her or hang around them, be somewhere else. At the end of 30 days, if there is material progress, as in physical progress that will soon result in sex, being made by your friend, stay away some more. If not, just ask her out as normal. If he complains about it after whatever time is up, he isn't a real friend.

 

[Thundernuts]

I know my hands aren't clean. But at the same time my post isn't exactly specific since I didn't want to write a 2 page essay on whats going on.

Dasein, zekko, you guys are right. Since theres alot more you don't know your also in the dark and thats my fault but I do feel like crap.

We both got invited to the fair but now my friend isn't going since he started argument with this chick yesterday, i just found out last night. You guys think I should even go now?

 

[Married Buried]

Friend? With friends like him who needs enemies?

 

[dasein]

Would probably skip the fair and back off this girl entirely, circle around in 30 days. Little will have likely changed and you will then give your friend no grounds for complaint. Don't make a deal of not going to the fair or get involved in some triangle drama, just have something "come up." Cultivate other options in the meantime. This is provided the guy is a real friend you feel loyal to and want to keep. However if she contacts you and wants alone time with just you during this time, and hasn't gotten physical with friend yet, would probably go for it.

This is where the old advice to keep the first several dates completely solo between you and a new woman comes from, and it is good advice. Do that and you won't have these issues in the future. The propensity for new women to misbehave and test when early on and in these group type deals is almost irresistible to them, even the better quality ones, then they will sit there with this "who? little ole meee?" attitude, knowing full well the friction they are causing. Save yourself that trouble.