"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Best Article ever written by Allen

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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mahon83050 said:
I love this article and it reassures me everytime. Too many guys, myself included, think every guy on the planet wants and also likes the girl you like. This can defintely make you feel intimindated and unworthy, but it is untrue.



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Sorry Mahon83050, and I know that this subject is banned on this forum, but Beauty is 100% objective. Without a general concensus of beauty, there would not be such a concept as beauty...Beauty is a fact, not an opinion. You give Cindy a 9....I give Cindy an 8.5...whatever, she's beautiful --- FACT, and that has been PROVEN, on a SCIENTIFIC basis. Same goes for ugly by the way. :moon:
 

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don piccolo said:
Sorry Mahon83050, and I know that this subject is banned on this forum, but Beauty is 100% objective. Without a general concensus of beauty, there would not be such a concept as beauty...Beauty is a fact, not an opinion. You give Cindy a 9....I give Cindy an 8.5...whatever, she's beautiful --- FACT, and that has been PROVEN, on a SCIENTIFIC basis. Same goes for ugly by the way. :moon:
Sad thing is I kind of agree with you and this article is kind of too good to be true. I know facial beauty is summed up by facial balance and symmetry and aesthetics. However, you ever see certain women or stars who have good bone structure and facial balance but really don't get your heart pumping? Micha Barton from the OC never really did anything for me. Yes, she is pretty by scientific standards, but she does not get me excited and I would not give her a 10.

I guess the one thing that men WILL find subjective about any woman and her beauty scale would be her height, boob size, hair color, hair style/texture and eye color.

But yes, you are right........

Most men won't find a woman with a hooked nose, recessed chin, bad skin and gummy smile attractive....same goes for a woman who is the opposite (they will find her attractive)
 

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It’s true to an extent. Think about it for a minute. We are all so drastically different that of course we don’t all find the same person to have the exact same attraction. Yes, there are scientifically proven principals, but there are far more variables than anything science has directly proved.

First of all comes our experiences, memories and preferences that make us who we are. These could easily alter our perceptions of how attractive a certain person is. I know a lot of people that prefer blondes or brunettes. To me I couldn't care less, if someone is beautiful to me, then they are, regardless of hair colour. But even just thinking you have a preference and making yourself say "I prefer blondes" could cause you to rate blonde woman more highly and others lower.

Another thing to add here is the fact that scientists have proved that smell is an important component in attraction. It has something to do with how we have different immune systems. Different people are attracted to different smells. The idea of this thread beginning to take shape yet?

I touched on it above but next comes our thoughts, circumstances and infatuation. If you see an attractive woman and think "damn she's hot!" this will alter your perception of her beauty. Meanwhile your friend might be thinking, "she's ok but I seen someone better just down the road". This simple thought could cause someone to rate her 7 and the other a 9.

I'm sure most of you have had experiences like this... I pointed out a chick who I thought was pretty good looking and my mates just laughed! Hmm. I also know this girl who occasionally hangs out with this group of slightly nerdy guys. They all think she is totally hot, and a few of the have infatuations with her. Me and my mates (sporty group) think she is ugly!

Things like the amount of girls you are exposed to, the quality of these women, your standards, the way you think about them, whether you build them up or knock them off their pedestal in your head, how often you see her, all of these things vastly contribute to how you rate a girl. There are also so many more things to add. So it is quite easily to see why different guys rate different women with different scores.

Do an experiment. Take 4 or 5 of your buds out to a nice crowded bar, one that's always packed with beautiful women. Find yourselves a table and try to find ONE lady in the entire bar that everyone agrees is A Perfect 10. One lady that everyone agrees is absolutely stunning.

You'll fail miserably. In fact, I doubt you'll be able to find a lady in the entire bar that even half your buddies think is a 10. You probably won't even be able to find a lady that everyone agrees is an 8 or 9.

Invariably when you or one of your buds picks out a lady and declares triumphantly for all to hear that she is absolutely perfect - and then waits for all to agree - someone in the group will respond, "No way. You've got to be kidding. She's okay I guess, but I'd give her about a 6."

You will be amazed, no stunned, at the women your buddies feel are Perfect, and they'll be equally stunned at you. Your, their, and our perceptions of beauty are just too subjective, too skewed by our past experiences and interactions, for everyone, or even a large percentage of guys, to even come close to agreeing.
Just like my examples above. Although I don't like the way that he says you have to try and point out 'the perfect 10'.

Most men won't find a woman with a hooked nose, recessed chin, bad skin and gummy smile attractive..
Quite obviously true. There are general universal standards. However imagine a nerdy, equally ugly, shy guy. This woman you describe is the only lady in his life. He builds her up in his head… And then, even then, there could be attraction.

Feel free to add your agreements or to argue against me ;)
 
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