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Best Activities to Meet Women/Expand Social circle?

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I've been Solo Traveling around Europe for 2 weeks now, I have met a lot of cool guys/girls on the tours but it is incredibly mentally taxing since these relationships are fleeting. I see them one day and they are on the plane the next, I have realised how important it is to form real friendships and long term relationships with women.

I want to be able to find activities when I get back to Australia (not meetup.com) that are not sausage fests and allow me to consistently meet a group of people that I can build rapport with and eventually find a LTR from.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
 

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What's up with your current friend group in Sydney right now? Is it useless for facilitating introductions to single women? I know my group has been like that for a long time.

Are your hobbies currently too male?

What's up with your apartment complex?
 

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@SW15

I have two friends, one is a catholic who I hang out with occasionally but he doesn't game.

The other is in the same boat as me, we play video games together and sometimes hang out but I don't meet women through him.

My hobbies are mostly solitary like gym,art and video games. It's not exactly something I can use to meet women.

I also live with parents 1.5 hours from the city centre in a suburb. So logistics are not on my side.


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You have to expand your hobbies. Your hobbies aren't that great. There are ways to meet women through artistic events (@Solomon does this) and you could do some gym or fitness class approaching. Video games are useless.

You need more friends, unless you want to be a lone wolf stanger approacher guy, like I am. I have more friends than you do. Despite more quantity, my friends are useless too.

Living with your parents sucks. Get roommates.

The fact that you've gotten laid off of swipe apps is an achievement.
 

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This topic is relevant to me. I've a thousand friends on Facebook, and been massively social (but who knows, maybe I'm fooling myself), but still I'm largely a sigma male/lone wolf, hence I'm more like @SW15. It sounds like @Zimbabwe simply needs to socialise a bit (but I got respect for you bro and iirc you got better statistics) but beyond that one should take this "men should be social" with a grain of salt. Here's men who are social: the puppies who sit and haul beer at the sports bar on a Saturday. But I guess there are those who simply grab a beer with friends, too.

My problem is that the world is a bit boring, and problem with discussing my projects. About ten years ago, i.e pre-social media world, Oslo was cool. For instance, big salsa parties with crystal chandeliers, Havanna hidden in the middle of the city, those kind of things. Sometimes it feels like places are desert savannas these days. But this is not true. It's the social aspect for me.

A clique would for me be cool, but for me I cannot find it, barely envision it. That's what makes me actually bet my money on the sigma male; someone who grind, more or less have job meetings and beyond that leisure with poon.
 

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I seem to find a lot of opportunities with women at gas stations. I am married now and haven’t leveraged any of them for several years, but used to. The opportunities always seem to present themselves. My openers may be cracking a joke at the drink cooler about how they sucker you into buying three drinks instead of one with the sales. Or, Talking to the chick line about giving me a cut of her winning lotto ticket. Or, making the cashier laugh her azz off commenting on how the debit card reader sounds like my grandma scolding me when it makes noise. Gas stations are good because you don’t stay there long, so you gotta work fast. No delays. You chat briefly, get her number or give yours (my preference), and go.
 

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If I was to do college all over again, I would say screw joining a frat and do a job like bartending/job that put me in front of a lot of women. Run clubs are also filled with women.
 

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If I was to do college all over again, I would say screw joining a frat and do a job like bartending/job that put me in front of a lot of women.
I think bartending/bouncing is better than joining a frat for getting laid. Frats might be better for an extended relationship. It's debatable.

Run clubs are also filled with women.
No experience with those. I've looked at cycling clubs, seems more older men with some 50+ women in there. I've not seen much about younger women doing much in the way of bicycle riding.
 

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experience with those. I've looked at cycling clubs, seems more older men with some 50+ women in there. I've not seen much about younger women doing much in the way of bicycle riding.
Most outdoor activities are sausage fests, it seems like women just don't like to go outside as much.
 

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Most outdoor activities are sausage fests, it seems like women just don't like to go outside as much.
Walking & running are probably decent ways to meet women, if they can take off the earbuds. Almost any fitness class format has more women than men but receptivity to approaches is limited.

Women often talk on their swipe app profiles about liking outdoor activity.
 

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Attend Meetups and actually try to know everyone, not just to pick up chicks. Plant the seed so in future events you'll find someone that catches your eye and backed with social proof. Like everything, it take effort and patience. I'm starting to host events, it's a great way to build your social aptitude and have fun doing it along the way.
 

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Attend Meetups and actually try to know everyone, not just to pick up chicks. Plant the seed so in future events you'll find someone that catches your eye and backed with social proof. Like everything, it take effort and patience. I'm starting to host events, it's a great way to build your social aptitude and have fun doing it along the way.
I think you have a fair point that a lot of men misuse Meetup.com groups. Most men are using Meetup to try and get dates/get laid.

Meetup is shiit. It has a really bad reputation as a platform. I think that stems from what I said above. Men are using it to get laid and having bad experiences with it. A lot of women are likely having bad experiences with it. The most attractive women never have used it, and even above average women (the 5.5 to 7 range on most men's rating scales) aren't even using it that much, though you do sometimes see women in this range at events. Those women get swarmed by horny and thirsty men, often Indian/Indian-American STEM worker men. That discourages them from future women, especially the White women.

It's possible to make male friends through Meetup and that might be the best use case for it. However, I think there are better options for making male friends.

While you don't want to date co-workers (see below thread), it's possible to use your workplace to get social circle introductions to other women not in your workplace. It's possible to have a female co-worker who knows someone single and have that lead to an introduction. I graduated college 17 years ago and have been in the working world most of the time since then and I've never once had a co-worker arrange a date for me. Most co-workers are married or LTR people with social circles filled with other people in the same phase of life. It's not the best option for getting social circle arranged dates. It's easy since you have to show up for work. However, workplace facilitated relationships have been on the downswing since the 1990s (see chart below).

The chart below is showing both fewer people dating within their own companies (I'll call this direct) and meeting people through co-workers (indirect). The direct method has been hampered by #MeToo since the mid-2010s though male unfriendly HR departments and economic recessions have also put a damper on the direct method too. In white collar work, if you mess up somehow in romance at the workplace and get terminated, you're going to be out of work somewhere between 3-12 months depending on economic conditions. That's a lot of risk. Any time a woman feels uncomfortable and complains to the HR department, the HR department will almost always take the woman's side. As for indirect, I think the HR threat has made even talking about dating in a lot of cases a concern. White collar environments can have a sexually sterile environment.


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OLD is my only source of women lol. I've never been fortunate enough to have a social circle with women, classes/workplaces with available single women, and etc.
 

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OLD is my only source of women lol. I've never been fortunate enough to have a social circle with women, classes/workplaces with available single women, and etc.
You can approach strangers in fitness classes at a gym, do any sort of bar or non-bar approaching. This sounds like a cope to me.
 

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If you're too ugly to cold approach, you're too ugly for swipe apps. Swipe apps are very looks based.
If I was going for black women then I would probably do fine cold approaching. Since I don't, I'm basically a 0/10 to most women out in public lol. Swipe apps match me with women that will consider dating a black guy at least.
 

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I went to hip hop dance lessons in my twenties. 40 (mostly) hot chicks and one guy = me. :cool:

Point is: Put your self in situations / Join / do something that chicks do and we guys might not have greater interest in/we guys do in general.
 
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