"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Being ****y/super confident

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So I’ve started being ****y/superconfident when I’m around women and even some guys.. and it’s shocking how well it’s received in some ways. Women are usually like “someone’s modest” or say I seem too in to myself or something else, which will be in a teasing fashion but they will try to ‘test’ my confidence which I usually shoot back with some wit and humour. Men usually laugh but loosen up (guy friends and even new people I’ve met)

When new people say “how are you?” I always respond with some form of “awesome! And you?”

Before the red pill I was super modest, so being outwardly quite confident and ****y is a new thing for me so it’s still a bit odd at times, although kind of fun.

Question: Does being outwardly confident and displaying your own interest/being ****y have consequences; such as coming across arrogant?
Would it be better to not be overly confident and be more ‘modest’? “Quiet confidence”?
What’s the right balance?

Would like to hear people’s own experiences and thoughts.
 

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Too humble they try to walk on me. Very confident they try to shoot me down . Once your secure that won't work. Have true authentic confidence.
Some situations and politics won't support your confidence and try to contort or marginalize you . Remove yourself from those bs situation. Protect your shyt, it's yours .
 
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So I’ve started being ****y/superconfident when I’m around women and even some guys.. and it’s shocking how well it’s received in some ways. Women are usually like “someone’s modest” or say I seem too in to myself or something else, which will be in a teasing fashion but they will try to ‘test’ my confidence which I usually shoot back with some wit and humour. Men usually laugh but loosen up (guy friends and even new people I’ve met)

When new people say “how are you?” I always respond with some form of “awesome! And you?”

Before the red pill I was super modest, so being outwardly quite confident and ****y is a new thing for me so it’s still a bit odd at times, although kind of fun.

Question: Does being outwardly confident and displaying your own interest/being ****y have consequences; such as coming across arrogant?
Would it be better to not be overly confident and be more ‘modest’? “Quiet confidence”?
What’s the right balance?

Would like to hear people’s own experiences and thoughts.
I’m gonna try this lol
 

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So I’ve started being ****y/superconfident when I’m around women and even some guys.. and it’s shocking how well it’s received in some ways. Women are usually like “someone’s modest” or say I seem too in to myself or something else, which will be in a teasing fashion but they will try to ‘test’ my confidence which I usually shoot back with some wit and humour. Men usually laugh but loosen up (guy friends and even new people I’ve met)

When new people say “how are you?” I always respond with some form of “awesome! And you?”

Before the red pill I was super modest, so being outwardly quite confident and ****y is a new thing for me so it’s still a bit odd at times, although kind of fun.

Question: Does being outwardly confident and displaying your own interest/being ****y have consequences; such as coming across arrogant?
Would it be better to not be overly confident and be more ‘modest’? “Quiet confidence”?
What’s the right balance?

Would like to hear people’s own experiences and thoughts.
YES! keep doing this. I myself have drastically changed my attitude within the best couple of months and I think the ideal attitude is a combo of being c0cky as you said but with an idgaf attitude. There are some conditions however. Although you seemed to have mastered this, I need to mention that there is a difference between fake confidence and true confidence. I've noticed that there are some people who will try to belittle you. You need to be able disregard this and make a joke out of it. I've discovered that the people that tried to belittle me for "loving myself" are people who have a history of emotional issues, have low self esteem about themselves, and/or struggle with depression. There are too many people that care about what others say about them as well and spend too much time contemplating their lives and how to get more people to like them. Being c0cky with an idgaf attitude lets people know that you aren't one to be messed with and it gives off a stronger presence.

Although this is the case, I'd like to add that it's important to be rational while having this attitude and not to put other people down. Like I mentioned, this just shows that one isn't happy with themselves. But yes, all in all, I think it's the best attitude to maintain.
 

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Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

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Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So I’ve started being ****y/superconfident when I’m around women and even some guys.. and it’s shocking how well it’s received in some ways. Women are usually like “someone’s modest” or say I seem too in to myself or something else, which will be in a teasing fashion but they will try to ‘test’ my confidence which I usually shoot back with some wit and humour. Men usually laugh but loosen up (guy friends and even new people I’ve met)

When new people say “how are you?” I always respond with some form of “awesome! And you?”

Before the red pill I was super modest, so being outwardly quite confident and ****y is a new thing for me so it’s still a bit odd at times, although kind of fun.

Question: Does being outwardly confident and displaying your own interest/being ****y have consequences; such as coming across arrogant?
Would it be better to not be overly confident and be more ‘modest’? “Quiet confidence”?
What’s the right balance?

Would like to hear people’s own experiences and thoughts.
I can highly relate to this. I’ve started seeing how great it is in social situations and I love it. Although regarding your point about coming across as arrogant, for me I feel like way too much of a d-bag if I leave ****y/confident as my ONLY setting.

I’m a believer of mixing in some “I’m also a good guy” moves that still make you look good in a genuine way. Don’t confuse this with making yourself look like a chump lol.

80-90% redpill d-bag with 10-20% blue pillish things sprinkled in there and you have a winning formula IMO.
 

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Yesterday, I saw a clip that answered the "why does people never do what you say to improve them, even when they ask for it"

We all know posters here who are in "denial" (or people in our lives that are in denial)

The French seduction coach put the words in my mouth for why people are "in denial or rejecting improvement" .

What is it? It's their confort zone is too small, they have a massive "panic-challenge" zone.

What's the panic-challenge zone? It's where we have struggles, it's the "new"

Alot of "newbs/people with issues/weak frame" or a fat guy on his laptop all day.... Have small confort zone and everything outside of it is a wall in their face.

Often they have not "hit the bottom enough" for their "will to change" and even if they have the "will" the task might be overpowering.

How you help them? You help them by guiding them/telling them.. To open their confort zone.. Extend it....

You have to do it slowly.

You ask them to do something "different" in small dosage.

Note: My workout was all about "improving your body confort zone" ... 1 pushup a day, than 2 the following week. I've applied this to all elements of my life and the results are amazing.

Why?

You teach them patience.
You preserve their "will" (we all know people who go intensively and just dropout the next week, after a big run)
You build their stamina
You create a routine
You give him victories regularly (boost morale and will)
You allow him to extend at his own space
The results will give longer effect.

"The longer it takes you to go up, the longer is the fall" (Roman saying and proven by math: An empire built over 1000 years will take 1000 year to fall... while the "dictator" who make it in 1 year... his fall will be quick and replaced fast).

So the secret is to: want, small effort consecutively over a long period of time.

That's success.

It applies to the OP thread. Yes, when you confident people are positive towards you.

However, you want to balance it innerly... cause your confidence might be "fake" ... you want to make it "real" .... secure. And that's about acting confidence and knowing/being confident... being confidence is when you have the reasons for it (score board, peace with yourself, know yourself, good experience).

Being a secure confident is usually those who walk calm, seem to be above the issues, their motions are relax and tone of voice stable
 
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I’m gonna try this lol
Yea I found web people ask “how are you today?” And I say “awesome! You?” It always brings them in to the present and out of that normal talk of “good, you?”

Whatever thoughts we have create different emotions and in turn make us operate differently. So if I say “I’m awesome”. I will actually be looking for everything to support that statement, if I feel it on some level emotionally.

When people say good, it comes off as flat. And so they are disengaged and almost apathetic to that interaction, powerless in a way; passive.

Try it for a week and watch people’s reaction. Not to mention, everyone wants to be around someone who is doing awesome, or is.
 

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My ****iness/sexuality is on a whole another level right now. I have old bishes who knew me during my afc days accusing me of being very ****y now. They keep telling me they dont like it blah blah but yet they been blowing up my phone ever since. Dont listen to what a woman says. ****y and being sexual will get them to chase.
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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My ****iness/sexuality is on a whole another level right now. I have old bishes who knew me during my afc days accusing me of being very ****y now. They keep telling me they dont like it blah blah but yet they been blowing up my phone ever since. Dont listen to what a woman says. ****y and being sexual will get them to chase. No facks given.
Is true. Why is this? Why do people hate in it, but then follow and desire the guy who is?
 

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My ****iness/sexuality is on a whole another level right now. I have old bishes who knew me during my afc days accusing me of being very ****y now. They keep telling me they dont like it blah blah but yet they been blowing up my phone ever since. Dont listen to what a woman says. ****y and being sexual will get them to chase.
They love a guy whose fvcking .
 

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Anti slut defense

They don’t want it to seem like they go after guys who are azz holes. It’s socially acceptable to say they want a c0cky guy
Someone super confident and slightly ****y might appear to be an assh0les to someone less confident .
 

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While I always thought humble was the way to go, women do find it boring. Plus, in real life, I’m SO humble and chill and reserved, I actually come across as cold to people who don’t know me well.

But I really like the example of “Awesome and you?” Honestly, that’s not even ****y per se. It’s more charming/cheeky than anything, plus it’s fun/positive/warm.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Go test your new found confidance by walking down the street and keeping eye contact with everyone you come across.

Likely you will fail the 1st few times.

Practice this until it becomes normal and then you can safely say u r indeed super confidant.

Side note: Warning; a younger version of myself would take the eye contact as a challenge and react as such. To avoid any unpleasantness from strangers; those that return prolonged eye contact; smile or nod as you pass them by.
 

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I’ve been at this concept for a long while.
Does being outwardly confident and displaying your own interest/being ****y have consequences; such as coming across arrogant?
Only if you take yourself too seriously when you do it. If you do it and you’re funny about it and don’t show that you’re all egotistic, then it won’t make you seem arrogant. People will poke jabs at you a lot more, but you gotta learn to just roll with it or even make fun of yourself. I’ll say some extremely racist things that could have me fined, but because it’s about myself, I can get away with it and it lets everyone else know that I’m THAT confident in myself that I’m even okay with making fun of myself. Just don’t let people walk all over you for it because then they’ll start to lose respect for you and hate you for feeling so good about yourself. It’s an experience thing though, you’ll know how to moderate it with time.
 

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From The Sixteen Commandments Of Poon:

XI. Be irrationally self-confident
"''No matter what your station in life, stride through the world without apology or excuse. It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are,,
,,,,,,, Irrational self-confidence will get you more ***** than rational defeatism. ""


Tune it one notch done and you'll be fine. It's bulletproof frame, if your confidence is REAL and come from within, not just a fake one.
 

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Being a secure confident is usually those who walk calm, seem to be above the issues, their motions are relax and tone of voice stable
I agree, people who are truly confident are truly relaxed. This is one reason I've always been suspicious of the idea that women are attracted to confidence. If they could truly detect authentic confidence they wouldn't go for that fake swagger/c0cky stuff. Because that usually just masks insecurity. I think they are more attracted to courage and bold action.
 

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I agree, people who are truly confident are truly relaxed. This is one reason I've always been suspicious of the idea that women are attracted to confidence. If they could truly detect authentic confidence they wouldn't go for that fake swagger/c0cky stuff. Because that usually just masks insecurity. I think they are more attracted to courage and bold action.
If you have authentic confidence can being "in love" with the wrong woman tear this down?
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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