"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Being with a girl that wasn't a virgin is eating me up inside.

SamTheHobit

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Background: We've been together 4 - 5 months this is the girl I lost my virginity to.

I'm not really to sure what to do. I've always maintained that I'd never settle for a non virgin. It pretty much feels like I've swallowed my standards, and I'm honestly quite unhappy being with a girl that's slept with another guy/s.

I understand that the older I get the less my chances are of finding a virgin, this has also been eating me up. Even though she's not a virgin one can't help but get attached, overall she treats me alright.

What are you guys thoughts? Is this something I should accept? How do I accept something that strongly goes against my beliefs?
Should I just keep her around until something better comes along?

Just needed to get this off my chest.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Her virginity (or lack of it) seems a strange thing to judge either you or her on.

You should be asking yourself why you've got it into your head that her (or any woman's) sexual status means so much to you.
 

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Truth be told.. I've railed 3 virgins in my life and I would much, much, much rather have a woman with at least a little experience.. It's not all it's "cracked" up to be, no pun intended..
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Wow...
 

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I understand that the older I get the less my chances are of finding a virgin, this has also been eating me up. Even though she's not a virgin one can't help but get attached, overall she treats me alright.
Can you explain why you actually give a sh*t she's not a virgin? Is this some OCD complex? Are you like a germophobe? Why does she have to be a virgin? Seems like you're obsessing over something unimportant and stupid.
 

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It doesn't matter. Not every girl is 'pure'. If she was a virgin, maybe you two would never even be together. Who cares? I'm sure that as you bang more girls you will care less yourself about a woman's sexual experience... It REALLY doesn't matter. Relax.
 

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Unlike many guys here I understand your perspective. The reason why you feel this way is that you yourself have next to no sexual experience, in combination with having less than her. Fvck more girls and this feeling will go away.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I don't think that nagging feeling EVER goes away, you will always be sleeping with a *****. Listen to all these guys if you want to feel like a john for the rest of your life. I bagged a virgin and it was easily the best decision I have ever made in my life, so much so that I married her. I can rest easy knowning the only c0ck my wife has been swallowing is mine. Everytime you are reminded that your girl was banging another dude, those vivid pictures crop up and its almost as if you are watching a porn movie. That will NEVER go away.... and you will NEVER be able to feel completely at ease in your relationship. Virgins from the right countries can be (as in my case) very loyal and very serious about life and more importantly YOU. Of course you'll be a priority in her life and based on how you train her she will never be able to see life without you.

So ya, there is a stark contrast between virgins and 'otherkin' especially if you are looking for a baby maker.

I'm honestly wondering if this forum has been flooded with white knights and fembots since its 'upgrade'. There are soooo many people here making excuses for women's bad behavior. Did feminism shred everyone's balls while I was away?
 
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I don't think it's something to worry about. I lost my virginity to a 5 years older chick . My longest relationship was for 1 month to a chick that lost her virginity from me. If I didn't had lost my virgnity to the older chick , I wouldn't liked sex in the first place.You know having sex with an experienced female ( when you don't have enough experience) allows you to see a different world , you get a lot of experience from her and you're maximizing pleasure. When you yourself are experienced enough, no matter if your partner is virgin or not , then you know what to do .

Getting concerned about your chick not been virgin , is just afc .
 

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If you want to be with a virgin and it doesn't feel right being with your girl now go find yourself a virgin. Because youre right the older you get the less likely you'll find a virgin.
 

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Just because she's not a virgin doesn't mean she's automatically a ho. Likewise, virgin hoes have to start somewhere. Avoid hoes.
Exactly. Once she experiences sex with you she very well may wonder what other c0cks taste and feel like. Plus if she has little to no experience she might have less self control.
 
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Finding and keeping a virgin until the end is a whole nother struggle, believe me I've been there. It feels like the end of the world when you finally lose her, like you've failed everything and will never get back any girl of that high value. There was stress in controlling the relationship, not to mention my hesitation to keep her until marriage since she was only a 7.5 plus she had some daddy issues and was no doubt curious about other ****s after having a first taste.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Grow up. Sorry, I don't mean to be blunt but sex is a natural biological function. The fact that she had sex only means she's a human being. You might as well say you want a woman that has never slept, eaten, or gone to the bathroom.
 

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Lol.

You'll grow up eventually.

Virgins who take it up the butt just to maintain their status of being a virgin is much worse than a girl who hopefully has true feelings for you and is open about her sexuality.

Read this as many times as you need to:

There is nothing more sexy than a girl who knows what she likes and tells/teaches you what/how she likes it. If you perfect this, you'll be put on so high of a pedestal no other dude through out the rest of her life will reach even long after you both break up.

Your concern should not be: You being the only cork she's ever had - that's beta and puts her in control.

Your concern should be: You being the best cork she'll ever have. - you feel the confidence?

Again, you'll eventually grow up.

Just like everyone on this board, we want a good woman with zero problems, no headaches, common sense, minimal prior corks but freaky in bed, makes bank, cooks and sets the table and all the sorts. Oh dont forget she has to have an amazing body, angelic smile, long hair and exotic accent?

We can want this all day long, it doesn't change the fact that a girl with the right value we're looking for will possess less of these qualities.
 
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Whoopdeedoo. Her flesh took the flesh of another for however long. What, do you think you missed out on some prize by not popping the cherry? Did you somehow expect that every girl is waiting specifically for you to come into their lives and make their first time "special"? Your "standards" are way off. If the other dude was so great she'd still be ****ing him. And by your "settling" standards, is another girl expected to "settle" for you now that you're no longer a virgin? Virginity is just some **** taught in Sunday school as being magic or sacred. It doesn't hold up in 2015. She met someone before you. She's with you now. Get over your insecurity, or go **** a hooker so you feel just as dirty as your think your GF is.
 

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I don't think that nagging feeling EVER goes away, you will always be sleeping with a *****. Listen to all these guys if you want to feel like a john for the rest of your life. I bagged a virgin and it was easily the best decision I have ever made in my life, so much so that I married her. I can rest easy knowning the only c0ck my wife has been swallowing is mine. Everytime you are reminded that your girl was banging another dude, those vivid pictures crop up and its almost as if you are watching a porn movie. That will NEVER go away.... and you will NEVER be able to feel completely at ease in your relationship. Virgins from the right countries can be (as in my case) very loyal and very serious about life and more importantly YOU. Of course you'll be a priority in her life and based on how you train her she will never be able to see life without you.

So ya, there is a stark contrast between virgins and 'otherkin' especially if you are looking for a baby maker.

I'm honestly wondering if this forum has been flooded with white knights and fembots since its 'upgrade'. There are soooo many people here making excuses for women's bad behavior. Did feminism shred everyone's balls while I was away?
I agree with this in theory. The main problem is practical; today's society means finding a virgin who you both like and makes your d1ck hard is extremely rare, there is enough of them around for just a fraction of all men and then you have to find them at the right place at the right time too. That's why I suggested to if the perfect scenario isn't possible, at least largely neutralise the feeling by getting a significant amount of sexual experience, especially more than the girl has.

I do however have some words of caution:

1) There are many girls who claim to be virgins, but are at the most only technically so. They make out, they take it up the @ss/with clothes on, they suck d1ck. Even if you find a girl who claims to be a virgin you could be fooling yourself. This means you cannot be assured of the past.

2) Biologically, humans are like other animals basically only monogamous when it suits them and they feel like it. This means that just because you find a virgin doesn't mean her underlying biological drives are different from other womens', she's still an animal. This means you cannot be assured of the future.

3) The previous points combined with the state of today's society means that the most reasonable approach is to focus on getting a lot of sexual experience yourself to help neutralise the feeling of being short-changed/a sucker, and all along try to find a girl with a good character who really likes you and you don't depend on for emotional fulfillment.
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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