"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Being ignored by females after first dates!!!

Dele1

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Guys, I am being ignored by this female who was all over me when we hung out last friday. Now she has ignored my first text on Monday and and second text yesterday.

I'm assuming she is trying to see how much interest I have in her. SO I decided to stop all contact after I tried to reach her.

Now to all of you guys that have gone through this, how long did it take for her to contact you back after you decided to give her the silent treatment too?

And how did you respond to her?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Blackmm

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Sounds like the bish is playing games. Either that or she got a BBD (Bigger and better deal) SOMEBODY is getting her time. Just forget about her.
 

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Dele1 said:
Guys, I am being ignored by this female who was all over me when we hung out last friday. Now she has ignored my first text on Monday and and second text yesterday.
What was the text?
 

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Any good date should end with a solid or vague plan to meet again .... You must call and tell her you had a great time with her and that you two should hang out again... then she must contact you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mr. Me

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I'm assuming she is trying to see how much interest I have in her
It sounds more like she doesn't have any in you.

Just because a girl is all over you one night doesn't mean she's interested.

Believe it or not.
 

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I was with a woman last night who was telling about a past guy who was chatting her up big time and asked for her number. She was apprehensive but gave it to him after he convinced her that they got along so well and that they should talk again. Well, she didn't hear from him for several days and when she did it was just a text about nothing (i.e. "what's up?"). She was like WTF??? He did all that work just in order to get her number so he could TEXT 2 WORDS to her? I still don't get why guys do that.
 

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Dele1 said:
It was whats up, how are you?
there's your problem. That was a really lame text. Next time just call and set something else up (i.e. the next date). Don't send those stupid AFC text messages. That's something girls do. Wait a few days before you try and CALL again.

so the lesson: don't text girls like that. Email is OK depending on the circumstances and as long as it's not pathetic. So make it C&F or whatever you like. However, after the first date you should be able to call no problem. Email is best maybe for getting a little more comfort so she won't flake. But texting... that's just dumb.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I hate the "One and Dones".
But I use it as a learning experience. Next time, I wont be so aggressive with a woman just out of an abusive relationship who has a daughter. (Didn't find out till midway through the date.)

Then again, maybe I sabotaged? Who knows.
 

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You should have called her and asked her out on a date.
 
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God I hate that fact... women can f you the be so cold .... then they claim that we men are not emotional enough....LOL

Yeah, then they blame us for seducing them or blame us for getting them to drink. Then they say they usually don't bang so soon and they aren't usually that easy.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You want to be with a woman that ignores you? Wow, that's weak. If she calls, ignore her because she didn't do anything to deserve your attention.
 

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Has anyone read Magic Bullets?

Well, this sort of thing has happened to all of us. Now, some girls will make out with guys, etc-that they have very low IL in, just like guys will-it's one of the great myths still out there, that guys are such pigs and girls aren't like that.

However, I feel compelled to pass this along because I've experienced it so many times. In the book Magic Bullets, it basically says that this will very often happen when the making out/sex/naughty-time, comes before the Comfort phase is firmly established. In other words, you bumped the seduction phase ahead of it's normally scheduled time (which is later).

Being a guy, you are totally ok with this. Obviously, if she let this happen, she is attracted to you, and for guys, that's often enough.

However, because of societies stigmas, her ASD, guilt, and other such installed mechanisms... the girl can often feel weirded-out by what took place, that she did all this stuff before she felt like she really knew you. And now she feels dirty.

Now, I am not saying this is absolutely what happened here, but if you know you're in a place where sex is not possible, or thats not your long term goal, think twice about bumping up that seduction phase. Damn, if I had a dime for every time this has happened to me :p
 

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It could mean a number of things:

Maybe she's stressed out from work. She might just have been really horny the night you went out but now the feeling has died. Maybe she needed an ego boost and you helped her to fulfill it. Maybe she got back together with her ex or maybe she found another guy (the Bigger, Better Deal in her mind).

Your job at this point is to not care and go out and meet new women. If she contacts you and decides that she wants another date, then go out with her - just remember that she is now just one of several women. Don't even bother to try to give her the silent treatment or make her jealous. If that's what it takes to get her interested again, then she's not worth your time.
 
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I'm guessing you weren't escalating enough when you hung out. I'm working on this problem as well. If a chick likes you, and you dont escalate the situation properly, you will be LJBF'd quickly. She might be thinking "He was awesome, but he didn't make the moves when I wanted him too, so later"

Ask yourself if you made the moves when you should have. This is BIG with chicks, as I've recently realized I've been fvcking that one up my whole life.
They either think you're a pvssy, uninterested sexually, or (gasp) gay. She may have nexted you.
 

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MotownMack said:
Has anyone read Magic Bullets?

Well, this sort of thing has happened to all of us. Now, some girls will make out with guys, etc-that they have very low IL in, just like guys will-it's one of the great myths still out there, that guys are such pigs and girls aren't like that.

However, I feel compelled to pass this along because I've experienced it so many times. In the book Magic Bullets, it basically says that this will very often happen when the making out/sex/naughty-time, comes before the Comfort phase is firmly established. In other words, you bumped the seduction phase ahead of it's normally scheduled time (which is later).

Being a guy, you are totally ok with this. Obviously, if she let this happen, she is attracted to you, and for guys, that's often enough.

However, because of societies stigmas, her ASD, guilt, and other such installed mechanisms... the girl can often feel weirded-out by what took place, that she did all this stuff before she felt like she really knew you. And now she feels dirty.

Now, I am not saying this is absolutely what happened here, but if you know you're in a place where sex is not possible, or thats not your long term goal, think twice about bumping up that seduction phase. Damn, if I had a dime for every time this has happened to me :p
Does anyone else here think that is a bunch of crap??
It has nothing to do with timing. If she regrets messing around with you, it's because of you, not the timing. Anyone here ever bang a fat/ugly girl because we were either drunk or hard up? Do you answer HER calls the next day?? I didn't think so. I've never heard of a chick ditching a dude, JUST because he banged her before she was "ready." I call bullshyt on that theory.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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