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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Being Dominant/Submissive

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Hey Guys,

I'm finally stumped. And confused about who I am. :box: (Btw, just so that we're all on the same page, I'm a 20 year old girl :woo: )

I am dominant in nature, I step up to the role of being "dominant" in various aspect of me life. However, when it comes relationship, I would like to believe that I like to be submissive.

However, my previous ex say that I'm too dominant in nature and it's hard to step up to me and tell me what to do. I think it's because he's weak.

I guess its in my nature to be dominant i'm driven and i want to be successful on my own...i dont think thats the signs of a very submissive person now if my lifelong dream was to be a librarian...... :crackup:

I really can't stand AFC, and the thought of a confident guy is just so darn sexy :cheer: . I don't think I can truly be happy being the dominant one in the relationship... but at the same time... by nature I'll question other people... :confused:

What do you think is my problem?
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I am going to go out on a limb here and I may suggest things that might not be true, but given what your thread says this should apply. What is probably happening is that, in your dominant nature, you are controlling the interaction from the start, what I mean is, you see a cute guy and make a move on him, ask him many questions, and you can generally end up with the guy because alot of men are submissive to women, especially in a situation like that. If you want to find a guy who will be dominant you need to be more selective, don't ask all the questions, don't suggest where to go for dinner/dates, let the guy make all the decisions, and if he doesn't then you have to find a better man.

Don't worry too much, there aren't many true men out there who will take a dominant role with women, many are submissive.

--Mission
 

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Mission said:
I am going to go out on a limb here and I may suggest things that might not be true, but given what your thread says this should apply. What is probably happening is that, in your dominant nature, you are controlling the interaction from the start, what I mean is, you see a cute guy and make a move on him, ask him many questions, and you can generally end up with the guy because alot of men are submissive to women, especially in a situation like that. If you want to find a guy who will be dominant you need to be more selective, don't ask all the questions, don't suggest where to go for dinner/dates, let the guy make all the decisions, and if he doesn't then you have to find a better man.

Don't worry too much, there aren't many true men out there who will take a dominant role with women, many are submissive.

--Mission
I don't think being dominant really means choosing which movie to watch or where to have dinner. Being dominant means fundamentally, telling someone to do something and having them do it.

Someone said to me...

"the problem is you just "like" that... but you won't actually be submissive

if i tell you not to do something, and i don't give you a reason, you'd just say, 'f off'

heck, even if i gave you ar eason and you don't agree with it, u'd still tell me to 'f off'"

Some guys are just so confident with themselves... they feel the need for their girl to just listen without questioning... is that stupid?
 

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( . )( . ) said:
You enjoy saying and pretending your dominant?

Whats the bloody question?
No, i think it's vice versa... I am dominant for sure, proven in fair too many aspect in life. I want to be submissive with him... but it seems like I just claim that i want to be submissive, but I'm actually not.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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So what the **** is your problem?

I'm sure there are 436524 forums out there for your whiny ass.
 

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Like the Yeti, Loch Ness monster and good television in 06 theres no such thing as a "dominant" chick, maybe to other chicks but thats as far as it goes.

Like that dude already implied, you just havn't been lucky enough for a non AFC to stumble across your path yet.

Put some make up on, maybe shed a few kilos and a nice dress and you could get lucky.
 

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Centaurion said:
So what the **** is your problem?

I'm sure there are 436524 forums out there for your whiny ass.
My problem is not knowing whether I'm truly submissive or dominant in a relationship. :cuss:
 

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( . )( . ) said:
Like the Yeti, Loch Ness monster and good television in 06 theres no such thing as a "dominant" chick, maybe to other chicks but thats as far as it goes.

Like that dude already implied, you just havn't been lucky enough for a non AFC to stumble across your path yet.

Put some make up on, maybe shed a few kilos and a nice dress and you could get lucky.
Dude, you're talking to a varsity athelte here, no Fatty Mc Fatso problem here. No problems attracting guys either!!

Yeah, I guess I just have to wait for the DJs... :yawn:
 
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