Being direct AF on POF works?

[MrJack]

So I'm not saying this will work on every girl and I haven't figured out a way to even say this to ANY girl, it just seemed like the best route to take in this particular situation.

So I see an HB8's profile on POF and her beginning tagline at the top of the profile says "You're not looking for me"

So I message her and this is how it went...

Me: I am not looking for you? Don't disqualify yourself so easily (insert laughing emoji)

Her: Why not?

Me: Because you wouldn't have responded if you weren't at least physically attracted to me, and I wouldn't have messaged you if I wasn't at least physically attracted to you. So why not meet up and see what happens, I'll even let you buy me a drink

Her: How can I say no to that ?

Me: Right? How about Saturday.

Her: Yea that works for me after 5

Me: Cool, give me your number and we will get some drinks

Her: (Gives phone number)

Now I realize I literally put in no work so there is a high chance she will probably flake come Saturday. (Maybe some text game till then?) But how would you guys go about getting this very direct message across in the right way to ANY girl on POF?

Not every girl is going to have "you're not looking for me" as her tagline so this convo probs wouldn't have happened if it wasn't or I would've found a different way to open her.

Anyways, Is being this direct the way to go or was it just dumb luck that she played along with it?

Im interested in testing this out more but I was looking for opinions on what to start out with saying in the first message to steer it in the direction of that second message of pure truth.

Or should my first message just come out and be all direct like that?

Successes? Failures? Opinions? Questions? Comments? Criticism?
All welcome.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I don't even see what's so direct about that.

I was expecting something like "hey wanna f uck later?"

 

[MrJack]

I don't even see what's so direct about that.

I was expecting something like "hey wanna f uck later?"

Lmao being THAT direct unfortunately hasn't worked too often for me. I guess this would be the next step down

 

[beforeimgone]

So I'm not saying this will work on every girl and I haven't figured out a way to even say this to ANY girl, it just seemed like the best route to take in this particular situation.

So I see an HB8's profile on POF and her beginning tagline at the top of the profile says "You're not looking for me"

So I message her and this is how it went...

Me: I am not looking for you? Don't disqualify yourself so easily (insert laughing emoji)

Her: Why not?

Me: Because you wouldn't have responded if you weren't at least physically attracted to me, and I wouldn't have messaged you if I wasn't at least physically attracted to you. So why not meet up and see what happens, I'll even let you buy me a drink

Her: How can I say no to that ?

Me: Right? How about Saturday.

Her: Yea that works for me after 5

Me: Cool, give me your number and we will get some drinks

Her: (Gives phone number)

Now I realize I literally put in no work so there is a high chance she will probably flake come Saturday. (Maybe some text game till then?) But how would you guys go about getting this very direct message across in the right way to ANY girl on POF?

Not every girl is going to have "you're not looking for me" as her tagline so this convo probs wouldn't have happened if it wasn't or I would've found a different way to open her.

Anyways, Is being this direct the way to go or was it just dumb luck that she played along with it?

Im interested in testing this out more but I was looking for opinions on what to start out with saying in the first message to steer it in the direction of that second message of pure truth.

Or should my first message just come out and be all direct like that?

Successes? Failures? Opinions? Questions? Comments? Criticism?
All welcome.

Nice work, but kinda wordy. I say the same thing to every chick on there. what's up sexy

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

So I'm not saying this will work on every girl and I haven't figured out a way to even say this to ANY girl, it just seemed like the best route to take in this particular situation.

So I see an HB8's profile on POF and her beginning tagline at the top of the profile says "You're not looking for me"

So I message her and this is how it went...

Me: I am not looking for you? Don't disqualify yourself so easily (insert laughing emoji)

Her: Why not?

Me: Because you wouldn't have responded if you weren't at least physically attracted to me, and I wouldn't have messaged you if I wasn't at least physically attracted to you. So why not meet up and see what happens, I'll even let you buy me a drink

Her: How can I say no to that ?

Me: Right? How about Saturday.

Her: Yea that works for me after 5

Me: Cool, give me your number and we will get some drinks

Her: (Gives phone number)

Now I realize I literally put in no work so there is a high chance she will probably flake come Saturday. (Maybe some text game till then?) But how would you guys go about getting this very direct message across in the right way to ANY girl on POF?

Not every girl is going to have "you're not looking for me" as her tagline so this convo probs wouldn't have happened if it wasn't or I would've found a different way to open her.

Anyways, Is being this direct the way to go or was it just dumb luck that she played along with it?

Im interested in testing this out more but I was looking for opinions on what to start out with saying in the first message to steer it in the direction of that second message of pure truth.

Or should my first message just come out and be all direct like that?

Successes? Failures? Opinions? Questions? Comments? Criticism?
All welcome.

If what you did works for you why try to "fix" it?


Why hide behind "text game"? All that will end up in her mind as I don't know how this dude sounds (he may have a speech impediment), he might not be the dude I thought was cute I responded to, etc.

You play "text game" and some other dude will get her phone number and call her. In her mind he'll be more of a man as he actually called while you hid behind texting.

You send her off the bat one text: Hey X it's Y from pof. What's going on?

She replies?

You text her: I'm going to call you now. Pick up your phone.

And you call her. That simple.

Have a plan in where to meet before you call. a place you'll already be going so even if she were to flake it's a place you're going to regardless. You aren't one of those dudes who plans his day/ night based off some random stranger you met online decisions are you? If so you need to have your own life and not base it off others decisions.

You chat for a few get to know you quick minutes and set up the place you're going to have her either meet you at or pick her up and take her. Don't start creating some fantasy in your mind about any chick. Get in the mindset of you're talking to someone you knew for years. This way you don't get nervous, worry about shyt, or start fantasizing about how "hot" she may be.

Don't over do it with the phone convo as the more you give up, the more you lose any sense of mystery no matter how great the convo is going. Great tv series don't blow their wad in one episode. they keep viewers hanging on for the next episode. So you chat a few minutes and tell her where you're going and she should come.

You can text her a good pic of yourself not in your profile so she sees you are the dude in the profile, not using someone else pics as their profile and tell her to send you a pic of her for your phone's "picture caller id".

I did that all the time to see if the chick didn't just send me something that may be been used on her profile (could always be old pics on their or not even her) and since most people have recent pics on their phone I could tell she not only was the chick in the profile but wasn't 300lbs now.

shyt was easy as hell.

 

[MrJack]

If what you did works for you why try to "fix" it?


Why hide behind "text game"? All that will end up in her mind as I don't know how this dude sounds (he may have a speech impediment), he might not be the dude I thought was cute I responded to, etc.

You play "text game" and some other dude will get her phone number and call her. In her mind he'll be more of a man as he actually called while you hid behind texting.

You send her off the bat one text: Hey X it's Y from pof. What's going on?

She replies?

You text her: I'm going to call you now. Pick up your phone.

And you call her. That simple.

Have a plan in where to meet before you call. a place you'll already be going so even if she were to flake it's a place you're going to regardless. You aren't one of those dudes who plans his day/ night based off some random stranger you met online decisions are you? If so you need to have your own life and not base it off others decisions.

You chat for a few get to know you quick minutes and set up the place you're going to have her either meet you at or pick her up and take her. Don't start creating some fantasy in your mind about any chick. Get in the mindset of you're talking to someone you knew for years. This way you don't get nervous, worry about shyt, or start fantasizing about how "hot" she may be.

Don't over do it with the phone convo as the more you give up, the more you lose any sense of mystery no matter how great the convo is going. Great tv series don't blow their wad in one episode. they keep viewers hanging on for the next episode. So you chat a few minutes and tell her where you're going and she should come.

You can text her a good pic of yourself not in your profile so she sees you are the dude in the profile, not using someone else pics as their profile and tell her to send you a pic of her for your phone's "picture caller id".

I did that all the time to see if the chick didn't just send me something that may be been used on her profile (could always be old pics on their or not even her) and since most people have recent pics on their phone I could tell she not only was the chick in the profile but wasn't 300lbs now.

shyt was easy as hell.

Great info thanks. I wasn't meaning trying to fix what worked for me I meant how could I just tweak it to fit other girls profiles that will have different tag lines, as it was super easy with this one to say that since she already disqualifies herself to everyone.

I guess just any opener that gets a response I can find a way to just lay it down on her at some point. I was just looking for others opinions on it.

But no I don't base my decision off making plans with girls I was actually planning to go somewhere for the mcgregor mayweather fight I just don't know where yet. I should figure that out like you said and call her and apply some of the things you do with the pics and caller id.

I appreciate the info.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

Great info thanks. I wasn't meaning trying to fix what worked for me I meant how could I just tweak it to fit other girls profiles that will have different tag lines, as it was super easy with this one to say that since she already disqualifies herself to everyone.

I guess just any opener that gets a response I can find a way to just lay it down on her at some point. I was just looking for others opinions on it.

But no I don't base my decision off making plans with girls I was actually planning to go somewhere for the mcgregor mayweather fight I just don't know where yet. I should figure that out like you said and call her and apply some of the things you do with the pics and caller id.

I appreciate the info.

I never bothered to read profiles till maybe after I got responses to my openers. Why invest in tailoring messages to people you don't know from a can of paint who may not ever respond? Majority of replies will come based off how good they thought you looked in your pictures.

You're profile is only as good as your worst picture. If you've got your absolute best flattering pictures up and are in the tops in looks in your area you can almost write anything. even hey what's going on? And they'll respond. I'd send something that was one copy and paste I'd made up telling them they're profile was the best id ever read and I was going to write to the owner and demand they'd be paid for it. along with: Keep up the great work! and leave it at that. ( just tweak a word or two every few emails you send as old sites are really cracking down on "spam". they want you to waste time crafting unique messages so you spend more time in them and give them more page clicks for advertising dollars). You spam too much and they'll delete your profile out of nowhere. then you re-join and now it counts as "two" users for them to pad their user base as "proof" of their size to more advertisers. these dating sites are scamming for money. the free ones scam by purposefully deleting users especially men because they know they'll re-join to get some azz this way when tons of dudes re-join they can count all those profiles as "members".

Only send out a few openers a day. go for chicks numbers asap. within two to three messages. you move quick to not only get numbers but to avoid long azz convos online and possibly getting deleted by the site before the chicks number you want to get is able to give it to you before the site decides you're "a spammer" and deletes your profile.

as for the chicks

most would reply and even if it was just "lol" id reply: how's pof going for you so far?

they'd reply and is tell them: Its going ok for me. im not on the site much. give me your number and ill text you mine.

next reply was their number.

then I'd text them what's up it's x from pof.

text reply from them and is tell them I'm going to call you now. Pick up your phone.

I'd call and we'd b.s..


had one chick reply once to a message I'd sent on pof "lol" and I replied: lmao. she replied: haha. I replied hee hee. she replied: you're cute I like you. I replied I like you too. give me your number and ill text you mine. next reply from her was her number.

called her and started bsing.

I looked at online dating like pictures on a screen. like looking at a magazine catalog of chicks. you wouldnt fantasize or get emotionally involved over pictures in a magazine. so I cared less if they did or didn't respond. tons did. and I talked to them like I'd talk to someone I'd known for years not some chick I was a desperate thirst bucket for. not an ahole either. just normal b.s.. they can sense that way you aren't going to trip over yourself for them like other desperate horn dogs even if in your mind you want to bang her brains out. if you don't fall for their attempts at trying to lure you with sexting, sex talk on the phone where if you fall for it they'll "prove" to themselves you are "hard up" and then flake they're even more curious.

Don't fall for the phone fantasy sext wank material if any of them try it. just laugh and keep a normal convo going.

they sex talk can sex talk you in person when you're face to face >>>sexting and phone sex.


be warned though. the vast majority and I mean vast have graveyards of skeletons in the closet. no matter how good their profile fluff is or how cool they seem.

there's a reason they're using a dating app. and the hotter they are the more suspect as any hot chick wouldn't need to be on a dating site unless she's been ran through and or has some serious hidden issues.

just be aware. not paranoid. but realize it's online dating.

 

[MrJack]

I never bothered to read profiles till maybe after I got responses to my openers. Why invest in tailoring messages to people you don't know from a can of paint who may not ever respond? Majority of replies will come based off how good they thought you looked in your pictures.

You're profile is only as good as your worst picture. If you've got your absolute best flattering pictures up and are in the tops in looks in your area you can almost write anything. even hey what's going on? And they'll respond. I'd send something that was one copy and paste I'd made up telling them they're profile was the best id ever read and I was going to write to the owner and demand they'd be paid for it. along with: Keep up the great work! and leave it at that. ( just tweak a word or two every few emails you send as old sites are really cracking down on "spam". they want you to waste time crafting unique messages so you spend more time in them and give them more page clicks for advertising dollars). You spam too much and they'll delete your profile out of nowhere. then you re-join and now it counts as "two" users for them to pad their user base as "proof" of their size to more advertisers. these dating sites are scamming for money. the free ones scam by purposefully deleting users especially men because they know they'll re-join to get some azz this way when tons of dudes re-join they can count all those profiles as "members".

Only send out a few openers a day. go for chicks numbers asap. within two to three messages. you move quick to not only get numbers but to avoid long azz convos online and possibly getting deleted by the site before the chicks number you want to get is able to give it to you before the site decides you're "a spammer" and deletes your profile.

as for the chicks

most would reply and even if it was just "lol" id reply: how's pof going for you so far?

they'd reply and is tell them: Its going ok for me. im not on the site much. give me your number and ill text you mine.

next reply was their number.

then I'd text them what's up it's x from pof.

text reply from them and is tell them I'm going to call you now. Pick up your phone.

I'd call and we'd b.s..


had one chick reply once to a message I'd sent on pof "lol" and I replied: lmao. she replied: haha. I replied hee hee. she replied: you're cute I like you. I replied I like you too. give me your number and ill text you mine. next reply from her was her number.

called her and started bsing.

I looked at online dating like pictures on a screen. like looking at a magazine catalog of chicks. you wouldnt fantasize or get emotionally involved over pictures in a magazine. so I cared less if they did or didn't respond. tons did. and I talked to them like I'd talk to someone I'd known for years not some chick I was a desperate thirst bucket for. not an ahole either. just normal b.s.. they can sense that way you aren't going to trip over yourself for them like other desperate horn dogs even if in your mind you want to bang her brains out. if you don't fall for their attempts at trying to lure you with sexting, sex talk on the phone where if you fall for it they'll "prove" to themselves you are "hard up" and then flake they're even more curious.

Don't fall for the phone fantasy sext wank material if any of them try it. just laugh and keep a normal convo going.

they sex talk can sex talk you in person when you're face to face >>>sexting and phone sex.


be warned though. the vast majority and I mean vast have graveyards of skeletons in the closet. no matter how good their profile fluff is or how cool they seem.

there's a reason they're using a dating app. and the hotter they are the more suspect as any hot chick wouldn't need to be on a dating site unless she's been ran through and or has some serious hidden issues.

just be aware. not paranoid. but realize it's online dating.

I'm driving wish I could write more but I will say that last point you had was so spot on.. I was seeing a girl I met online last year and she was a hot af polish/russian girl couple years younger than me. She had so many hidden problems it was ridiculous, the sex was great though while it lasted

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

I'm driving wish I could write more but I will say that last point you had was so spot on.. I was seeing a girl I met online last year and she was a hot af polish/russian girl couple years younger than me. She had so many hidden problems it was ridiculous, the sex was great though while it lasted

oh I believe it. I could tell you shyt I heard directly from the horse's mouth on the phone that I couldn't make up if I tried. shyt that I'm sitting there thinking is this real life? its like they get so comfortable talking with you they cant restrain themselves from admitting how screwed up they are. didn't matter how good they may have looked. basket cases, complete toxic people. I heard it all. eventually had enough, left and never bothered with it again.

God help any dude desperate enough to ever even bother wifing up some chick that uses dating sites.

virtual dive bar quality. seriously

 

[thedevilmademedoit]

oh I believe it. I could tell you shyt I heard directly from the horse's mouth on the phone that I couldn't make up if I tried. shyt that I'm sitting there thinking is this real life? its like they get so comfortable talking with you they cant restrain themselves from admitting how screwed up they are. didn't matter how good they may have looked. basket cases, complete toxic people. I heard it all. eventually had enough, left and never bothered with it again.

God help any dude desperate enough to ever even bother wifing up some chick that uses dating sites.

virtual dive bar quality. seriously

Nah. It's not that those girls are low quality, it's just that you are not an elite alpha with an abundance mentality.

If you were, these girls would move mountains to be with you. The fact that she's got 3 kids by 2 men, has 11 tattoos, and her profile reads like a transcript she had with her shrink, all that really means nothing. You can get any woman to tell you she loves you and pretty quick if you're alpha enough.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

Nah. It's not that those girls are low quality, it's just that you are not an elite alpha with an abundance mentality.

If you were, these girls would move mountains to be with you. The fact that she's got 3 kids by 2 men, has 11 tattoos, and her profile reads like a transcript she had with her shrink, all that really means nothing. You can get any woman to tell you she loves you and pretty quick if you're alpha enough.

I'd like your reply a million times if I could but my beta status only allows me to once.

If I were a true abundance mentality, elite alpha male motivational speaking, life coach toxic chicks on old would instantaneously morph into hb11 high quality wifey material quick as i could adjust my made in china lead hair piece.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I'd like your reply a million times if I could but my beta status only allows me to once.

If I were a true abundance mentality, elite alpha male motivational speaking, life coach toxic chicks on old would instantaneously morph into hb11 high quality wifey material quick as i could adjust my made in china lead hair piece.

Show me one of these people that actually exists.

 

[soulforge]

for every 10 mails I send on POF I get 4 responses..

is that a good response rate??

 

[RichardTheFrog]

for every 10 mails I send on POF I get 4 responses..

is that a good response rate??

Much better than mine. I'm like 1/10 if that.

 

[Glassguy]

I am about 75% response rate on OLD. I dont fvck with POF that much because its all trash and honestly, I think that I intimidate 90% of the chicks on there through my profile alone. I am outta their league. Not being boastful, just a response I get from a LOT of POF chicks when we do get into messaging each other.

Match, Tinder, Bumble.....all better than POF.

Match is hit or miss. I might run with 5/5 and then to 1/5.

Not sure of my match % on who I actually swipe on Bumble and Tinder because I dont really think about it. But they are all better choices than POF.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I am about 75% response rate on OLD. I dont fvck with POF that much because its all trash and honestly, I think that I intimidate 90% of the chicks on there through my profile alone. I am outta their league. Not being boastful, just a response I get from a LOT of POF chicks when we do get into messaging each other.

Match, Tinder, Bumble.....all better than POF.

Match is hit or miss. I might run with 5/5 and then to 1/5.

Not sure of my match % on who I actually swipe on Bumble and Tinder because I dont really think about it. But they are all better choices than POF.

What makes you out of their league?

 

[Glassguy]

What makes you out of their league?

With most of them being damaged trash and my profile having good pics and I portray that I have my sh!t together, I just come across as being out of their league.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

With most of them being damaged trash and my profile having good pics and I portray that I have my sh!t together, I just come across as being out of their league.

Oh.

Well I have enough money to be considered "having my sh1t together."

I guess I'm just missing good pics.

 

[Glassguy]

You're not getting it.

I am not telling them I have my sh!t together, I show them through my profile. I dont tell them I make good money, they can see that in my profile. Telling them makes them not have to work to find out. Chicks love putting a little effort into someone they are interested in. They love confidence but dont like conceit.

I have 4 pics. Each are different. None are mirror selfies. All but 3 show me doing something fun. Hell I had one pic up for a while of some random guy skydiving. I have never been skydiving but they cant tell its not me in the pic. I had numerous messages from chicks asking how much fun skydiving is.

The pics and profile are only the keyhole. It gets them interested to see whats behind the door and then opens it to communication. You could be the richest guy in the world and have poor pics/not be attractive/poor profile and its game over. You are selling yourself through your profile. If they are interested, they will start showing interest and asking buying questions. Its pretty simple dude.

Once the door is open, I qualify them and if I want to try and smash them, I make the interest known.

If its one of the very few that I go out with and see possible relationship qualities in, I normally dont try to smash right off the bat because I know that I will lose interest shortly thereafter, and I would rather see if she will work for my attention.

Your profile is boring and desperate. You need to change that up.

 

[Trump]

So I see an HB8's profile on POF and her beginning tagline at the top of the profile says "You're not looking for me"

So I message her and this is how it went...

Me: I am not looking for you? Don't disqualify yourself so easily (insert laughing emoji)

Her: Why not?

Me: Because you wouldn't have responded if you weren't at least physically attracted to me, and I wouldn't have messaged you if I wasn't at least physically attracted to you. So why not meet up and see what happens, I'll even let you buy me a drink

Her: How can I say no to that ?

Me: Right? How about Saturday.

Her: Yea that works for me after 5

Me: Cool, give me your number and we will get some drinks

Her: (Gives phone number)

Im interested in testing this out more but I was looking for opinions on what to start out with saying in the first message to steer it in the direction of that second message of pure truth.

Come on bro, this is "direct?" What if she said "I want to take off my clothes and sleep with you." What would you consider that?

If you think that's direct, how long do you usually chat with them before asking for a phone number? 3-4 days?

Just a tip, "let you buy me a drink" doesn't usually work on most girls, yet this one it did. Don't try to be c0cky and funny. Just be sincere and show genuine interest.