"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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We preach spinning plates for a reason. What happens when a man just settles for one girl haha:rockon: Same thing can be applied to real life. You can be that typical guy that is satisfied with his salary job/medium position job in the suburbs with a ***** wife and ***** kids or you can be Donald Trump and own an empire. Donald Trump was never satisfied. What if America was satisfied with its present borders after winning the war against Britain. In addition, what if the colonists were content with British rule?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Um...you know that some guys are actually happy to have a good job, wife, kids, and a nice life in the suburbs right?

Some people do not want empires and enjoy the simple life. It doesn't make them betas on that alone.
 

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Dhoulmagus said:
We preach spinning plates for a reason. What happens when a man just settles for one girl haha:rockon:
So you think a man having just one woman (wife or girlfriend) is "beta". Huh.

Aren't you the SAME GUY who just 4 DAYS AGO made a thread called "Too scared to break up with my girlfriend"?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=228770
 

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The greatest weakness of a community is that group ideology trumps personal peculiarities. Hence red pill is confused with hedonism.Men settle bcoz deep down in their psyche,they are meant to take care of women.That's why traditional polygamous societies always took care of their harems.That's why divorced men vowing never to marry sometimes eventually get married. Its not that they don't want to marry.It's that the submissive and hot women + game needed to take and keep them is hard to come by.

It's not beta to stick to one woman.Its beta if you can't do any better if you wanted to.The red pill removes the sanctity of sex we have been force-fed by church and society, then you learn game to take the woman you want.

If you can't maintain a loyal relationship with one chick or a harem,then just don't.Mature people want more than hedonism,hence they marry.If the climate isn't condusive(all women being *****s) then they search elsewhere or give up marriage altogether. It's not beta to take one woman.Its beta if you can ONLY take one woman.The difference is love by choice and love by lack of choice.
 

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Kuzko said:
Mature people want more than hedonism,hence they marry.
Bro you are confusing the issues. You can be mature and seek hedonism. If you don't people will take advantage of you, CRUSH you into ground, spit you out, and CRUSH you again.

What does being married have to do with being mature?

If the climate isn't condusive(all women being *****s) then they search elsewhere or give up marriage altogether. It's not beta to take one woman.Its beta if you can ONLY take one woman.The difference is love by choice and love by lack of choice.
Marriage isn't about love, its about convenience, image, and status quo. If woman couldn't initiate divorces, would they get married? (But I love him!) :rock:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Each man must measure his own greed.

Some want the simple life, some want the world.

Cant call someone beta based on what they want out of life.

Being content, can mean you were successful at getting what you want and are now enjoying the fruits of your labour.
 

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Igetit! said:
So you think a man having just one woman (wife or girlfriend) is "beta". Huh.

Aren't you the SAME GUY who just 4 DAYS AGO made a thread called "Too scared to break up with my girlfriend"?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=228770
She dumped me because I told her I cheated on her, but I am actually glad you brought that up lol.

Scenario of me being content with my gf/attempting to wife up my gf: My dreams of going to visit the west are pretty much done or put on hold because my extra money will be sent going to meet up with her in Nashville during the school year. Lol I can forget applying for jobs anywhere outside of Tn because that is where she wants to raise a family and she has school for 3 years. I would likely be in BFE or working my wage hour job till I get a job in a bigger Tn city haha. I would never have good sex again lol. I would most likely die of stress or suicide by 30 lol.

Instead, I have job asking me which western location I prefer, I will not be spending money to go to Nashville this fall lol, I had phenomenal sex last night, and I will have more room to focus on me and me. Yes, my gf sounds like a controlled *****, but I don't believe any American woman is beneficial to men really.

In addition, you can not criticize me because your life today was shaped by people that were not content with their lives. Steve Jobs could have been content with having a local apple company and never have expanded. The place of your employment was created based on a person that wasn't content with living off a cozy salary. Go back to my America example lol. In conclusion, it is hypocritical to criticize this alpha mentality because alphas have shaped your life today. If you want to be a placeholder in society than so be it. However, I will argue that it is a beta thing to do.
 

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Fvck fvcking girl after girl, fvck aiming to make mountains of money, fvck alpha/beta. The most important thing is the man is happy with what he is doing. What is the point chasing the next million if deep down he is unsatisfied? I'll choose a happy and satified scenario over anything else. In the eyes of others if something I am doing is beta fvck them they don't enter my thoughts.
 

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Dhoulmagus said:
We preach spinning plates for a reason. What happens when a man just settles for one girl haha:rockon:
You're assuming plate spinning is superior to a relationship. I would actually hope that in order to live a full life, most men get to experience both in their lifetime. In fact, plate spinning is a very effective way of meeting a potential LTR.

Do what you want to do, and don't worry about black and white thinking (this is always good, that is always bad). "To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven".
 

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zekko said:
You're assuming plate spinning is superior to a relationship. I would actually hope that in order to live a full life, most men get to experience both in their lifetime. In fact, plate spinning is a very effective way of meeting a potential LTR.

Do what you want to do, and don't worry about black and white thinking (this is always good, that is always bad). "To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven".
Ya if you can find a woman that will benefit you in life than I fully agree. However, I feel like that age of good women is pretty much done.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Trump said:
Bro you are confusing the issues. You can be mature and seek hedonism. If you don't people will take advantage of you, CRUSH you into ground, spit you out, and CRUSH you again.

What does being married have to do with being mature?



Marriage isn't about love, its about convenience, image, and status quo. If woman couldn't initiate divorces, would they get married? (But I love him!) :rock:
Yet image and status is part being a man.If an alpha who can tap any booty decides to marry.Is it about convenience or is it about love.Yes,sex is cheap=women are cheap=love is cheap.But if you're actively seeking for an LTR,not just a bone-friend.You will pay attention to emotional attachment or bemoan the lack thereof.Hedonists like you don't believe that love exist.Because that would mean that the woman is special.

"A special hoe!!? Oh the horror!!!":p
 

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Kuzko said:
Yet image and status is part being a man.If an alpha who can tap any booty decides to marry.Is it about convenience or is it about love.Yes,sex is cheap=women are cheap=love is cheap.But if you're actively seeking for an LTR,not just a bone-friend.You will pay attention to emotional attachment or bemoan the lack thereof.Hedonists like you don't believe that love exist.Because that would mean that the woman is special.

"A special hoe!!? Oh the horror!!!":p
No, we just believe that love today is now a liability for men.
 

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Dhoulmagus said:
We preach spinning plates for a reason. What happens when a man just settles for one girl haha:rockon: Same thing can be applied to real life. You can be that typical guy that is satisfied with his salary job/medium position job in the suburbs with a ***** wife and ***** kids or you can be Donald Trump and own an empire. Donald Trump was never satisfied. What if America was satisfied with its present borders after winning the war against Britain. In addition, what if the colonists were content with British rule?
Agree.

Settling into a "comfortable" and "safe" routine in ANY area of life is extremely beta.

Why? Its lazy and low risk. Which is what betas are all about. Oddly enough, marriage is extremely high risk and idiotic. But marriage is still beta because men perceive it as more low risk than potentially "losing" the woman they have placed on a pedestal and never meeting anyone else who measures up. :crackup: :crackup:

Spinning plates is alpha because the man is more in-control and more free. Freedom is something most betas don't know how to handle.. which is why they constantly seek out direction and support from causes, commitments and ideologies.

For a man to be free he most first have freedom of thought. The beta allows cultural norms to dominate his thoughts.. making critical thinking almost impossible and thus.. making freedom (and the desire for it) almost impossible.
 

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Mr. Poon King

Freedom is an illusion.A sculpture in the mind to remind a man that he has a soul.No wonder people turn to philosophy after their bio* needs are met.Even Pook admitted he was a PUA before he lost his mind.In truth,man wants to fight his way and find his own truth.Not go for an never-ending quest for a mysterious ideal known as 'freedom'.IMO,what I see here is a projection of the harshness of female psychology into everything in life.I know its stupid to "love" in 2015.But loving one woman,in and of itself,is not inherently 'beta'.
 

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Mr. Poon King

Freedom is an illusion.A sculpture in the mind to remind a man that he has a soul.No wonder people turn to philosophy after their bio* needs are met.Even Pook admitted he was a PUA before he lost his mind.In truth,man wants to fight his way and find his own truth.Not go for an never-ending quest for a mysterious ideal known as 'freedom'.IMO,what I see here is a projection of the harshness of female psychology into everything in life.I know its stupid to "love" in 2015.But loving one woman,in and of itself,is not inherently 'beta'.
If freedom is an illusion then love is an even BIGGER illusion.

Any man who accepts that true freedom does not exist must also understand that love does not exist either. Love is simply a projection of positive feelings based on a person's ability to validate your existence.

In other words: People LOVE those who stroke their ego in juuuust the right way. Everyone's ego has holes and those who can fill them are "loved". But its all ego based, co-dependent bullsh!t.

When I talk about freedom I don't talk about COMPLETE freedom. I mostly mean having the power to live more by our own values and will then that of others. AND having the ability to get what you want from others without having to bow, scrape, kiss ass, chase, pander, etc.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Poon King said:
If freedom is an illusion then love is an even BIGGER illusion.

Any man who accepts that true freedom does not exist must also understand that love does not exist either. Love is simply a projection of positive feelings based on a person's ability to validate your existence.

In other words: People LOVE those who stroke their ego in juuuust the right way. Everyone's ego has holes and those who can fill them are "loved". But its all ego based, co-dependent bullsh!t.

When I talk about freedom I don't talk about COMPLETE freedom. I mostly mean having the power to live more by our own values and will then that of others. AND having the ability to get what you want from others without having to bow, scrape, kiss ass, chase, pander, etc.

Anyone could use freedom for anything.

One person could consider themselves truly free is they don't work, another if they aren't near their family, another if they move, another if they come out of the closet and on and on. How "free" is one when all they can talk about is how "free" they are from EX: women constantly? They aren't truly "free" from them as their mental state is enslaved by the same thing they claim they are "free" from. They let go and don't need to keep repeating it as if they are trying to convince themselves or others.
 

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Kuzko said:
Yet image and status is part being a man.If an alpha who can tap any booty decides to marry.Is it about convenience or is it about love.Yes,sex is cheap=women are cheap=love is cheap.But if you're actively seeking for an LTR,not just a bone-friend.You will pay attention to emotional attachment or bemoan the lack thereof.Hedonists like you don't believe that love exist.Because that would mean that the woman is special.

"A special hoe!!? Oh the horror!!!":p

Bro if you are under pressure, or go bankrupt or get sick, and needed the love of your life to help you, and Hollywood comes knocking on the door and says they have selected her out of 10,000 women and want her to star in their next big movie because she is so beautiful and they want to world to see this beauty, how long do you think the love of your life is going to stick around and help pay the bankruptcy bills?

"No, no, I don't want be a Hollywood Star, I want to stick around forever with my husband, work my tail off and help pay the bills for the rest of my life because he made a bad stock investment. Why you ask? Because emotional attachment and LOVE conquers all!" :woo:
 

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Trump said:
Bro if you are under pressure, or go bankrupt or get sick, and needed the love of your life to help you, and Hollywood comes knocking on the door and says they have selected her out of 10,000 women and want her to star in their next big movie because she is so beautiful and they want to world to see this beauty, how long do you think the love of your life is going to stick around and help pay the bankruptcy bills?

"No, no, I don't want be a Hollywood Star, I want to stick around forever with my husband, work my tail off and help pay the bills for the rest of my life because he made a bad stock investment. Why you ask? Because emotional attachment and LOVE conquers all!" :woo:
And just how many people do you know that this scenario you've presented has happened to? How many so suavers? Any?

Posters claim they should offer as little as possible if anything. Yet they should get to marry a woman who gets chosen as the next Hollywood super starlet, wind up being dumb enough after knowing everything (since they claim to know it all) to lose it all and their wife leaves them for Hollywood fame and fortune.

Why the apocalypse mentality and outlook? Is that how you choose to live your life? Get a grip dude. Act like a freakin man.
 

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I'd take satisfaction any day, call me a beta for it, I don't care as long as I'm happy. I know for sure though that constant dissatisfaction over never having or being good enough is utterly pointless and somewhat retarded.

Look at what you're saying. Donald Trump is never satisfied with his fortune, surely a drive to get more but it will never make him happy because he never gets enough. Never satisfied = always unhappy. I would rather be happy than rich.

On that note, would you rather prefer a trophy wife over a woman that truly makes you happy? Do you even know what would make you happy? If the things you do makes you feel like sh!t, then what's the point?

Don't get me wrong, if you want to be miserable I won't and can't stop you from doing so. I think it's really fvcked up to want that though. Can't really say it would make you satisfied to be dissatisfied either, they're opposites you see and that makes it an irrational statement.

I would quit my job, sell my house and marry a stray dog if I knew it would make me happy.
 

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Trump said:
Bro if you are under pressure, or go bankrupt or get sick, and needed the love of your life to help you, and Hollywood comes knocking on the door and says they have selected her out of 10,000 women and want her to star in their next big movie because she is so beautiful and they want to world to see this beauty, how long do you think the love of your life is going to stick around and help pay the bankruptcy bills?

"No, no, I don't want be a Hollywood Star, I want to stick around forever with my husband, work my tail off and help pay the bills for the rest of my life because he made a bad stock investment. Why you ask? Because emotional attachment and LOVE conquers all!" :woo:
Bcoz you imagine the worst of women.The red pill burns everyone's throat,and the only solution is being alpha.If a hoe's "love" is based on lust for you,then this situation can't change a single thing.If you inspire lust,then she'll stay to the very end and multiple-****test you to make sure you've lost frame before she leaves.I tend to think a woman will not give up on you if she's still obsessed with you.Her biological instincts simply won't allow.


Poon King said:
If freedom is an illusion then love is an even BIGGER illusion.

Any man who accepts that true freedom does not exist must also understand that love does not exist either. Love is simply a projection of positive feelings based on a person's ability to validate your existence.

In other words: People LOVE those who stroke their ego in juuuust the right way. Everyone's ego has holes and those who can fill them are "loved". But its all ego based, co-dependent bullsh!t.

When I talk about freedom I don't talk about COMPLETE freedom. I mostly mean having the power to live more by our own values and will then that of others. AND having the ability to get what you want from others without having to bow, scrape, kiss ass, chase, pander, etc.
And is this based on experience or "pseudo-redpill enlightenment".Like I said love is cheap bcoz sex is cheap,hence wimenz themselves are cheap.Still does it dissaprove the existence of love?Can't you love your bonefriends?



PS.Someone's negrepping me,if you want to debate go ahead.The pook thing was a joke.Stop the BS.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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