Being **** blocked by Jezus?

[Atom Smasher]

Chickfight,

I think that if a woman has religious beliefs, they should be respected whether we understand their viewpoint or not.

There are plenty of fish in the sea. She's way too conflicted and that, as you well know, is a surefire recipe for problems.

For me personally, just as I would respect a man for his beliefs, I would do the same with a woman. At 17, she's a flaming cauldren of conficted emotions (like most girls) and you could be causing her some internal harm by pressuring her to things that she is conflicted about.

She will not abandon herself to you, that I ASSURE you, and even if you score a temporary repreive of her religious beliefs, they will gnaw at her until she blows the relationship up. There are too many fundamental differences here. I say move on and you will avoid a world of hurt.

 

[pinhas]

Read The Diceman by Luke Rhinehart, especially the part where he seduces and sleeps with the religious student.

There were some interesting arguments that were said, could help with laying a religious lady.

 

[corrector]

Chickfight,

I think that if a woman has religious beliefs, they should be respected whether we understand their viewpoint or not.

There are plenty of fish in the sea. She's way too conflicted and that, as you well know, is a surefire recipe for problems.

For me personally, just as I would respect a man for his beliefs, I would do the same with a woman. At 17, she's a flaming cauldren of conficted emotions (like most girls) and you could be causing her some internal harm by pressuring her to things that she is conflicted about.

She will not abandon herself to you, that I ASSURE you, and even if you score a temporary repreive of her religious beliefs, they will gnaw at her until she blows the relationship up. There are too many fundamental differences here. I say move on and you will avoid a world of hurt.

 

[corrector]

If God made everything, then He made sex, too. Read the Song of Solomon out of the Old Testament. It's like a romance novel.

Is that the only book in the Bible that you have read? How about Sodom and Gommorah? The people in that city also had sex.

Most of modern Christianity's prohibitions on sex come not from the words of Jesus, but from Paul, whose writings in the New Testament are actually letters written to people who were having giant pagan sex orgies as a way to recruit for their religion. He couldn't really mention that specifically, so he said things like 'don't be sexually immoral.' To me, that means don't have giant pagan sex orgies.

No, the letters are addressed to the church to which they are written, not to pagans.

Jesus said looking at another woman lustfully is a sin (Mat 5:28). The OP may have broken 'thou shalt not commit adultery' because he commited adultery by plotting to seduce this woman against her future husband that she intends to keep herself pure for. This is Jesus words, not Paul. Paul does not contradict anything Jesus says.

 

[Chickfight]

Just say "thanks for the kind words, and hope you find what you are looking for in life as well...see ya around".

And leave it at that.

Classy, I like it.

For future reference, Jesus isn't the one c*ckblocking you, SHE IS.

Women just throw up the religion card to protect themselves.
We just shift the blame to whatever she's referencing to and we'll usually say: It's because of THIS that we aren't getting anywhere.

False statement.

More often than not, it's not because of religion that they are "naive", but WE are "naive" to think it is.

The thing is, she never threw up the religion card. It's just the timing of her changing from saying she loves me and is in love with me to her not wanting to see me anymore was exactly when she went to this Jesus retreat.
I don't think she's extremely naive. She's told me she tried long distance relationships before and she's gotten hurt before by it.

Chickfight,

I think that if a woman has religious beliefs, they should be respected whether we understand their viewpoint or not.

There are plenty of fish in the sea. She's way too conflicted and that, as you well know, is a surefire recipe for problems.

For me personally, just as I would respect a man for his beliefs, I would do the same with a woman. At 17, she's a flaming cauldren of conficted emotions (like most girls) and you could be causing her some internal harm by pressuring her to things that she is conflicted about.

She will not abandon herself to you, that I ASSURE you, and even if you score a temporary repreive of her religious beliefs, they will gnaw at her until she blows the relationship up. There are too many fundamental differences here. I say move on and you will avoid a world of hurt.

I'm not trying to get her to give up her religious beliefs. I know it's the most important thing in her life. Maybe the title is deceptive, but my main goal isn't to just bang this girl. I actually love spending time with her and I love the sexual tension just as much as girls do. It was very dreamlike how we got together and I do love her. Call it oneities or whatever, but who doesn't want to be with a girl they're in love with? Besides the religion thing, we got along perfectly. She laughs at all my lame jokes and I genuinely loved every moment we spent together. I'm not naive and I know you have to act a certain way around girl, which I do, but I try do it in way that it fits with who I am.



Guys, let's please not make this a religious debate. Thanks for all the great input though.

 

[Tesl]

Just say "thanks for the kind words, and hope you find what you are looking for in life as well...see ya around".

And leave it at that.

I wouldn't send anything. Sending this will give her some sort of closure on the whole thing, I wouldn't want to do that. As long as she can't guess how he feels the whole thing will stay in her mind more, and the more a girl thinks about you the better position you get yourself in.

Then again, I'm not sure trying to hit it off with a religious chick is a good plan either

 

[TheManOfSteel]

Eject now! My ex-girlfriend had ultra religious parents. We were together for about 5-6 months when she goes on a religious retreat on the weekend with one of her friends. She comes back and dumps me out of the blue. A couple weeks later we got back together (mistake). We lasted for another six months, and then she broke up with me for good over a disagreement about religion. Keep in mind that the whole time we had a pretty solid relationship (she was moving towards the marriage discussion). It's not worth it man, the ultra religious ones are even more unpredictable than regular woman.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Jesus said looking at another woman lustfully is a sin (Mat 5:28).

Yes, he did. I take that to mean that the religiously high and mighty anti-sex crusaders are full of hypocrisy, because everyone is equally a sinner already. The sex deed itself does not matter nearly as much as your overall beliefs. That's what the OP needs to convince his girlfriend.

 

[Chickfight]

I'm not going to eject. I know she still likes me, because she keeps changing her facebook status and sh!t, referencing me and how she has to get over me. I've decided to ignore her message completely to just leave her guessing, because I've never shown her anger or frustration before so I doubt she'll think that's why I didn't reply.
It will be very hard though.

Look at it this way. Jesus is in this situation the ultimate AMOG. She believes he is real and loves him more than ANYTHING. He's obviously high status, extremely social proofed, loves her but isn't needy (Cause he's not real). She literally WORSHIPS this guy and he holds all the answers and mystery. He's god.
The ONLY thing he CAN'T provide is physical presence and contact, which I can, so this is the only way I'll win her over. I'm hoping this no contact will affect her enough to want to see me this winter break regardless of the consequences she thinks it will have, so she will once again experience my PHYSICALITY which will bring all the intense emotions from the summer gushing forth once again.
This is going to sound ****y, but I'm a relatively good-looking guy. 6ft2 160lbs, in shape, dark hair and a handsome face. When a friend asked my previous girlfriend why she liked me she answered with "he's such a man and his face". So I feel if she won't be able to deny me when in my presence.
This girl is HOT too though, 5ft10, beautiful face and body, cute freckles. Brown hair, green eyes, but she's only had a few boyfriends and I'm 99% sure she's a virgin. One advantage I do have is that all these promise ring church boys she comes into contact with, are the biggest pvssy's ever. I can and WILL defy Jesus to get her

 

[corrector]

Yes, he did. I take that to mean that the religiously high and mighty anti-sex crusaders are full of hypocrisy, because everyone is equally a sinner already. The sex deed itself does not matter nearly as much as your overall beliefs. That's what the OP needs to convince his girlfriend.

Your logic is flawed because Jesus did not say sin was okay because everyone's doing it. Jesus said, he who commits sin is a servant of sin, just like the OP. He would rather follow his sinful passions at the expense of respecting that girl, and contradicting everything he just said about her, because that is his master.

 

[corrector]

I'm not going to eject. I know she still likes me, because she keeps changing her facebook status and sh!t, referencing me and how she has to get over me. I've decided to ignore her message completely to just leave her guessing, because I've never shown her anger or frustration before so I doubt she'll think that's why I didn't reply.
It will be very hard though.

Look at it this way. Jesus is in this situation the ultimate AMOG. She believes he is real and loves him more than ANYTHING. He's obviously high status, extremely social proofed, loves her but isn't needy (Cause he's not real). She literally WORSHIPS this guy and he holds all the answers and mystery. He's god.
The ONLY thing he CAN'T provide is physical presence and contact, which I can, so this is the only way I'll win her over. I'm hoping this no contact will affect her enough to want to see me this winter break regardless of the consequences she thinks it will have, so she will once again experience my PHYSICALITY which will bring all the intense emotions from the summer gushing forth once again.
This is going to sound ****y, but I'm a relatively good-looking guy. 6ft2 160lbs, in shape, dark hair and a handsome face. When a friend asked my previous girlfriend why she liked me she answered with "he's such a man and his face". So I feel if she won't be able to deny me when in my presence.
This girl is HOT too though, 5ft10, beautiful face and body, cute freckles. Brown hair, green eyes, but she's only had a few boyfriends and I'm 99% sure she's a virgin. One advantage I do have is that all these promise ring church boys she comes into contact with, are the biggest pvssy's ever. I can and WILL defy Jesus to get her

Wow. So you acknowledge that this girl has a REAL PERSONAL relationship with Jesus Christ and you indirectly acknowledge that Jesus is REAL to her and you want to openly defy Jesus? Suppose you die by some freak accident? I'd be careful if I were you. You are playing with fire.

 

[sharkbeat]

Hey, you got some pretty fvcked up mind going on here. I am not a holy man. I am a sinner, and fully admitted so. So, listen to me with a grain of salt..

DON'T FVCK WITH JESUS

Got it? Ok, good.

Now, the good news is what's going on with her mind has nothing to do with Jesus. It's called social or religious programming. Can you fvck her? Of course. If she wants to, why not? Right? But, be prepared to marry her if you do. She's a virgin. If you fvck her, she's going to be all over you, because she lost it to you.

She will be totally committed to you, and you, in return, must do the same. If you really want her, be prepared to marry her. If you still want to play with the other chicks out there, don't do it. Really, there are plenty of horny women out there who won't give a crap what Jesus is telling them, and thus won't give you all of this headache of getting AMOG by Jesus. What kind of idiotic bullcrap is that?

 

[JustLurk]

What are you gonna do? **** her and then leave her? Because if you don't marry her that is what you'll be doing. Ready to marry yet? No? Then you might want to **** someone that won't feel the need to marry you after sex.

 

[Chickfight]

Look bros, I was half-joking with the defying jesus thing. Having sex with her isn't even my real goal. I just want to be with her, but I would definitely do it if she was okay with it. I'll be honest, she's been a great girl from the start. She's never judged me or done any *****y things. I wasn't even really gaming her. I do respect her, but at the same time I'm a man and I want what I want. I doubt she'll be thinking about marriage even if we have sex. We're not in the 19th ****in century and she's 17 christ sake. Plus she's really hot. Done some modeling and commercials. I'm sure you all know how hard it is to find a girl who is hot and isn't ****ed or *****y. So yeah, I am going for this girl and I'm not going to just "next" her. There isn't anything immoral about it. I only have good intentions. If there is God. I'm sure he won't send me to hell for it
Sorry for ranting.

 

[Da Realist]

First, corrector, sex didn't destroy Sodom and Gommorah: it was the apathy they showed towards their fellow man (Ezekiel 16:46-50).

Next, chickfight, to be absolutely honest, she is testing you. Religious women will take every step to correct you because it gets them closer to you without making them look bad. They buck and fight a little, but it's just an act because unless you kidnapped them, they came to you to wherever you lead them. Heck, even after having sex with you they'll try to put the blame on you so they won't feel bad. Eve blamed the serpent eventhough she took a bit of the fruit.

I've been in the situation and it's messy. You can go back to having sex with all the women you want or you can go after this chick and take up the challenge of navigating this whole thing. The former choice, I'm not going to judge because for one you're not pretending to a Christian and the other is I'm not going to slam a guy for doing what I did or may possibly get back to doing. The latter though is a big challenge and you would have to know what you are up against.

Either two things are going: this girl is really on fire for Christ or her parents are basically legalistic, trophy Christians. It being America, most folks are and her parents most likely are if they keep her at home instead of teaching her to set an example in school like the Bible preaches. At 17, having seen how well you can treat her, she's honestly waiting for you to scoop her up and get away from her parents because they've most likely isolated her.

So you can take her back to your country and she'll probably be in love with you as much as any 17 year old girl can be. Then comes sex. You get it and start realizing the lily you thought you had has her own flaws and that spiritual part of her will start dimming. Maybe she can keep it up till marriage, but some women basically spaz out from guilt while others turn into pleasure seeking people who will do anything since the lid is off. The thing is that now you have someone you brought back with you that is either beating themselves up endlessly and irritating you to death, or a ***** basically; I know those are two extremes, but just the way my life seems to go. Along with it, you get the guilt of tempting a girl to do wrong which unless you're apathetic like the people of Sodom and Gomorrah that were mentioned is going to bother you.

So that is the way I see the whole thing. You leave her to go conquer some more willing prey; totally bend just to get a woman; whisk her away while keeping sex out till marriage; or whisk her, lay it down, and gamble on whatever happens.