"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Being **** blocked by Jezus?

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Alright so I'm hoping to get some input on my situation here.

So the past summer I met this girl through a female friend of mine. I was just kickin it at a bar watching the world cup with some friends and eventually she sat down next to me and we hit it off. Later she found my number on facebook and txted me. We started going out. It was hard, because her parent's forced her to bring her sister and her sister's friend, but I kept my game tight and showed high value by taking them to the world expo and using my connections, we were able to skip the line for every pavillion

After that I went to her house a couple of times cause her parents wouldn't let her go out with me alone. We just made out and chilled together, had a great time, but I had to leave to America for college which is where I am now.

We stayed in touch and got very close. She even told me she had a dream where I basically took her to a hotel room and had sex with her. I don't usually do long distance, but it's hard for me to find a girl I actually like and doesn't do the ****ed up things that a lot of girls do.

Here's the problem: I'm 21 and she's 17 and SUPER religious. Her whole family is. On top of that, she's home-schooled. Now, I'm fine with all that, cause I'm not one to judge and she seems completely cool to me. We pretty much just never talk about the religion thing.

However, a few weeks ago she went to some kind of Jesus retreat or whatever for a few days and when she got back she pulled a total 180. After we talked on the phone she sends me a message that she feels like things have changed and she wants to stop talking n ****. What the ****, before she left she was telling she was totally in love with me. Anyway, I played it off cool and said it was fine, I felt the same way bla bla and we stopped talking.

Since then, we've talked and decided we're still gonna hang out this winter break when I go back. How the hell do I handle this?? I can't compete with freakin JESUS.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Warning: What I am about to write may be considered evil or immoral by some. If you're one of those to get offended please just skip my post.

First off, from my experiences, those who go to those retreats usually come back and are extra-super religious for a month or two before they go back to living their normal lives.

Now, on to my main point.

I don't know how it is in your home country, but in America, those who are fundamentalist Christians and home schooled are incredibly naive. Put in enough effort and you can AMOG Jesus.

Since, she is all about Jesus, you must play the role of Lucifer if you want to win. If there is/were such a thing as the Devil, he would be the greatest seducer ever. He tempted Eve into eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and ever since he has tempted countless others; he almost succeeded in tempting Jesus himself.

The good news for you, you aren't trying to tempt Jesus, you're trying to tempt a human. We know she is not pure of thought. She told you about her dream. You just have to get her to a spot where she is so comfortable that she thinks she's in love with you. Once you get her to that point, you just have to get her alone and play the make out and stop game. Each time pushing it further and further until she can't control her carnal urges.

Of course, the only downside to this is once you've slept with herm she will be insanely in love with you and will start talking marriage, kids, etc.
 

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theunflushables said:
Warning: What I am about to write may be considered evil or immoral by some. If you're one of those to get offended please just skip my post.

First off, from my experiences, those who go to those retreats usually come back and are extra-super religious for a month or two before they go back to living their normal lives.

Now, on to my main point.

I don't know how it is in your home country, but in America, those who are fundamentalist Christians and home schooled are incredibly naive. Put in enough effort and you can AMOG Jesus.

Since, she is all about Jesus, you must play the role of Lucifer if you want to win. If there is/were such a thing as the Devil, he would be the greatest seducer ever. He tempted Eve into eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and ever since he has tempted countless others; he almost succeeded in tempting Jesus himself.

The good news for you, you aren't trying to tempt Jesus, you're trying to tempt a human. We know she is not pure of thought. She told you about her dream. You just have to get her to a spot where she is so comfortable that she thinks she's in love with you. Once you get her to that point, you just have to get her alone and play the make out and stop game. Each time pushing it further and further until she can't control her carnal urges.

Of course, the only downside to this is once you've slept with herm she will be insanely in love with you and will start talking marriage, kids, etc.
Thanks for the insightful response.
I know how some very religious people can be, but she's pretty open minded. For example, She knows I drink, smoke tabacco and weed, that I've ****ed around a lot and most of all that I'm completely irreligious. Besides, she's told me she doesn't want to have any kids and I'm pretty sure she won't want to get married any time soon since she' 17.

There's alot going against us besides religion: the age difference, her parents, her mother hen older sister, the fact that we won't be in the same place of a long amount of time in the foreseeable future, but these difficulties just kinda made our bond stronger in a way, but since I'm not there, I can't effectively attract her, which is the only way to draw her away from this religious stuff. So I'm stuck for now.

But yeah, I'll see her again in about a month and I'll try to follow your advice.
 

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It's not that difficult to keep that attraction there when you're away. One of my former plates moved back to the US and we stayed in touch. Just keep doing what you'd do when you're physically around her. Tease her, be ****y and funny, have great conversations and keep it sexual.

It's that I lack the funds to purchase a ticket to the US over Christmas and experience an American Christmas, otherwise I'd be tapping her ass during Christmas and see a bit of the world as well.

Keep the lead warm, but don't be too available to her, but make sure you're constantly on her mind.
 

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dude u can do it man. it sounds like ur differences are gonna help u a lot,cuz they're bad boy differences. girls love that **** man. especially when they're young. just give it some time, she's gonna eventually get bored with her religious stuff and ur the one she's gonna turn to cuz ur so bad. it's even better that you're so far away cuz she'll miss u more, and crave u even more. but u gotta keep in contact, get her to trust you kind of thing. shes prbly one of those girls that so naive that they believe in the whole love/fate thing, i mean if shes only 17 and a family kind of girl, u dont have to worry much.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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If God made everything, then He made sex, too. Read the Song of Solomon out of the Old Testament. It's like a romance novel.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song of Solomon&version=NIV

Most of modern Christianity's prohibitions on sex come not from the words of Jesus, but from Paul, whose writings in the New Testament are actually letters written to people who were having giant pagan sex orgies as a way to recruit for their religion. He couldn't really mention that specifically, so he said things like 'don't be sexually immoral.' To me, that means don't have giant pagan sex orgies.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
If God made everything, then He made sex, too. Read the Song of Solomon out of the Old Testament. It's like a romance novel.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song of Solomon&version=NIV

Most of modern Christianity's prohibitions on sex come not from the words of Jesus, but from Paul, whose writings in the New Testament are actually letters written to people who were having giant pagan sex orgies as a way to recruit for their religion. He couldn't really mention that specifically, so he said things like 'don't be sexually immoral.' To me, that means don't have giant pagan sex orgies.
What's wrong with pagan sex orgies?
 

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Thanks for all the support and feedback guys
Things aren't too great right now. We both agreed a couple of days ago we wanted to see eachother and just chill and have fun like we did in the summer, but today she sends me this message:

Chickfight, you are really going to hate me and i'm sorry.
but i really don't think we should see each other, i mean if you really think about it, there's no way that we can just have easy fun. it would just be too hard and weird to be just friends. i know myself and i know that i wouldn't be able to do it. and i know that's just gonna make everything worse. i don't want anyone to get hurt, and i'm sorry if i've hurt you now.
you probably think i'm some crazy ***** now, and i don't blame you.
i really am sorry.


To which I replied:

Haha no, I don't think you're a crazy *****.
Look it's okay, you don't have to apoligize for how you feel, but I will say I think you're wrong.
I hope I'm not assuming too much, but I know you like me and I still like you, so it would be stupid if we're finally in the same place to not see each other, at least to see if it's still there. I do believe things happen for a reason and meeting you was so special, I don't think it was for nothing. If you were any other girl, I would have just said screw it from the very beginning, but something made me want to know you and that something is still there.
Either way though, I'm fine, I've been with enough girls to know that life goes on :)


Any thoughts?
 

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That is the most funny thing I ever read. Being ****block by Jesus.
I usually throw conservative religious girls immediately. I never go for religious conservative girls. Especially Jesus lovers. I heard playgirls advice other playgirls to prioritize ambition, school, work and JESUS now a days so I tend to avoid them. You should study more playgirl tactics man.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ugh this is what she replied with:

you're not and i do, but that's the whole point. this just cant work out so we might as well end it before it gets a lot harder. this is something special, but i dont think that anything can come of it except it just getting more complicated and harder to keep up.

you werent just some guy to me kevin. you really meant/mean a lot to me. but i know that life will move on and you'll find the most amazing girl you've ever met and she'll actually live where you live.
♥

Ugh, I don't even know how to reply anymore
 

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Chickfight said:
Ugh this is what she replied with:

you're not and i do, but that's the whole point. this just cant work out so we might as well end it before it gets a lot harder. this is something special, but i dont think that anything can come of it except it just getting more complicated and harder to keep up.

you werent just some guy to me kevin. you really meant/mean a lot to me. but i know that life will move on and you'll find the most amazing girl you've ever met and she'll actually live where you live.
♥

Ugh, I don't even know how to reply anymore
Then don't respond. Move on.
 

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Chickfight said:
Ugh this is what she replied with:

you're not and i do, but that's the whole point. this just cant work out so we might as well end it before it gets a lot harder. this is something special, but i dont think that anything can come of it except it just getting more complicated and harder to keep up.

you werent just some guy to me kevin. you really meant/mean a lot to me. but i know that life will move on and you'll find the most amazing girl you've ever met and she'll actually live where you live.
♥

Ugh, I don't even know how to reply anymore
You don't reply. You leave it alone. She is a young immature little school girl who has no idea what she wants in life, therefore she is easily manipulated by crazy things like religion. Leave her alone, and soon enough....you'll be hearing from her, mark my words. But don't contact her anymore, let her have thoughts in her head right now about what a cool, level headed, non stalkerish, sexy guy you are and all the great girls you are meeting. Will drive her crazy.

No...I'm not gay. And I don't want you. :)
 

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cordoncordon said:
You don't reply. You leave it alone. She is a young immature little school girl who has no idea what she wants in life, therefore she is easily manipulated by crazy things like religion. Leave her alone, and soon enough....you'll be hearing from her, mark my words. But don't contact her anymore, let her have thoughts in her head right now about what a cool, level headed, non stalkerish, sexy guy you are and all the great girls you are meeting. Will drive her crazy.

No...I'm not gay. And I don't want you. :)

Thanks for this great advice It's makes it a lot easier to ignore her if I can mark your words I'll be hearing from her :)

Alright, no reply, that's what I'm gonna do.

So not even a short one saying how it's fine and I wish her the best? I don't want her to think I'm so affected and pissed off by her message that I don't even reply.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Chickfight said:
Thanks for this great advice It's makes it a lot easier to ignore her if I can mark your words I'll be hearing from her :)

Alright, no reply, that's what I'm gonna do.

So not even a short one saying how it's fine and I wish her the best? I don't want her to think I'm so affected and pissed off by her message that I don't even reply.
Just say "thanks for the kind words, and hope you find what you are looking for in life as well...see ya around".

And leave it at that.
 

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For future reference, Jesus isn't the one c*ckblocking you, SHE IS.

Women just throw up the religion card to protect themselves.
We just shift the blame to whatever she's referencing to and we'll usually say: It's because of THIS that we aren't getting anywhere.

False statement.

More often than not, it's not because of religion that they are "naive", but WE are "naive" to think it is.
 

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theunflushables said:

Since, she is all about Jesus, you must play the role of Lucifer if you want to win. If there is/were such a thing as the Devil, he would be the greatest seducer ever. He tempted Eve into eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and ever since he has tempted countless others; he almost succeeded in tempting Jesus himself.


http://luciferiansword.com/Home.html

:rockon:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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