"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You are so right dude. Going into my corner to cry now:p

LOL, what a pu$$y

"Mommy, he called me a mean name!"

PS That chick is beautiful, Plutoman. Nice job. The 8 years older gives me pause though. It would break my heart to see you let her down if she really is as nice and religious as you describe. These kinds of girls are not trash to be thrown away, you know?

I am currently uncommitted but if I meet the right girl I will get married immediately, no question.


+1 to Yaboi, you get it
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Darth said:
PS That chick is beautiful, Plutoman. Nice job. The 8 years older gives me pause though. It would break my heart to see you let her down if she really is as nice and religious as you describe. These kinds of girls are not trash to be thrown away, you know?

I am currently uncommitted but if I meet the right girl I will get married immediately, no question.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2008316&postcount=65

Yeah, she's a sweet girl. I'm pausing because me, I'm 21, I've gotten into the game fairly recently, so it's like.. if I find a girl that's great so fast, am I cashing out early? Or did I just luck out? Am I missing part of the picture?
 

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So I have gone through some personal changes and have basically became "alpha" or "hot" or "top 1% of men" or whatever you want to call it if you're an egomaniac, I don't see myself that way.

I see people on here striving to be that way but let me tell you it is not all fun and games.

Actually it's extremely annoying and genuinely irritating because you get these fat old ladies (who you have no interest whatsoever in) touching you and just invading your personal space.

You get interest from EVERYBODY- and as you know, 90% of the female population is unattractive, middle aged or elderly, single moms, divorced, etc.
Alrighty my nooby friend. Firsly: if you are allowing grannies and uggo's to invade your space you aren't alpha.

Secondly: IIRC Pook said in his thread about gaining weight here that the more "alpha"(heavy muscularly) he got, the more afraid all the uggo's became. Eventually they daren't even glance at him.

I think this is what you should be going for.

Are you skinny, brah?
 

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Nooby friend, what? LOL

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Alrighty my nooby friend. Firsly: if you are allowing grannies and uggo's to invade your space you aren't alpha.
Oops!

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Secondly: IIRC Pook said in his thread about gaining weight here that the more "alpha"(heavy muscularly) he got, the more afraid all the uggo's became. Eventually they daren't even glance at him.

I think this is what you should be going for.

Are you skinny, brah?
Interesting. I am fit but I'm not a hulk if that's what you mean. That would definitely be something to improve on. There are certainly many areas I can improve in still. Thanks for the tip dude!

Plutoman, I ran out of posts for a little bit, but congrats on deciding to date the woman. I am happy for you:) Especially because you are in control of what's going on and are remaining strong. Good for you!

"It does get annoying. I start to see what a hot woman feels like, when she gets looks from beta guys way below her league. "
Yep, actually that was exactly my thought- finally I know what it feels like to be a hot girl and now I know why they are so rude to most people...it is tempting to be that way myself.

I do think I could put on some more muscle. I don't want to be Arnold or anything, but I think a stronger but still functional body is best. One that can do swimming, sprinting, etc. and fast aerobic stuff. Lean and mean. At least that's what I'm aiming for.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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That's an interesting point.

I get a lot of attention from all swathes, but that does include the more ugly girls, the chubby girls, the single moms. I'm a thin guy, about 165-170 @ 6'2". I'm fit, but not big (though I've put on 20 pounds of muscle since I started working out, so I'm getting there).

It does get annoying. I start to see what a hot woman feels like, when she gets looks from beta guys way below her league. Just like the chubby girls giving me surreptitious looks and going out of their way to flirt when I have no interest at all. Girls get very touchy. Especially when alcohol is involved.

But, Darth, would you prefer that or the opposite? I'd rather have to ignore attention than struggle to gain it. It's always true that life has compromises. Some gains are worth the cost, too. You know this, but I'm sticking in the comment anyways.
 

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Chamber36 said:
Alrighty my nooby friend. Firsly: if you are allowing grannies and uggo's to invade your space you aren't alpha.

Secondly: IIRC Pook said in his thread about gaining weight here that the more "alpha"(heavy muscularly) he got, the more afraid all the uggo's became. Eventually they daren't even glance at him.

I think this is what you should be going for.

Are you skinny, brah?
First off, alpha is not defined by the type of women you keep its an aurora that you express and you live life the way you want too.

Second, if you say you're alpha, you most likely not alpha since you feel the need to express it.

Thirdly, you only lift for women? .... why.
 

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OP - based on what you wrote alone I can see you still have a lot to learn about what alpha actually is. This is ok, you're only 22. I was pretty arrogant at that age too. Interesting enough, it was when I focused on improving myself and turned it down a little bit that I began to get more pvssy.

Want to know how I know you have a ways to go? I hope that this:

Darth said:
... Your ability to attract women is directly related to how threatening you are to other men...
.. is not your all-inclusive definition.

I do commend you on figuring out some important truths at an early age, such as all women becoming more attracted to you (something I've written about before), and I hope you continue learning while humbling yourself ... just a wee bit.

Otherwise statements like this:

Darth said:
I am currently uncommitted but if I meet the right girl I will get married immediately, no question.
... will land you in hot waters, quick when you meet your 'dream girl' at the ripe age of early 20s only to have her divorce rape you.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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moneyisking said:
wonder what this kid looks like on real life. alphas don't bark my man
I mean $hit, moneyisking has a point. If you really feel that way, you shouldn't have to go and beat your chest and say "hey, look how alpha I am". But what do I know?
 

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alpha is an act , being natural on the other hand is a change in mindset to being more relaxed and comfortable. its not something you have to constantly do or try and keep up. its not a guido lifestyle , its simply being comfortable in ur own skin and when u are natural , not alpha , u dont attract the wrong people you just exist on ur own life terms.
 

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I want to extend my apologies to those people I have bullied on this site over the last several days. Although I talked about eliminating anger, shame, and guilt and making the private life the same as the public life, there was still some hidden anger suppressed that I was unaware of related to how I was treated growing up, and this was being expressed outwardly.

The root cause has now been resolved and so I want to apologize to anybody and everybody I have offended acting like your high school meathead. Thanks.

Still planning on getting married though, without a doubt. And I won't rate my own looks, but according to some girls/women, I am very attractive physically. I try not to read too much into it but that is what I'm told.

P.S. And you are quite right- from my current perspective I would never have started a flashy thread like this because I am truly no better than anybody else, so why go on and on about oneself. I thought I was being helpful to the community but actually it was an ego trip.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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