"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Being a leader . . vs saying no???

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Ok I'm all about leading and stuff, but seriously, when you're out on a date and they don't agree to what you wanna do, like "let's dance" or "lets go minigolfing" and they only say "no I don't want to" what's a guy to do???

This hasn't happened yet to me, I had a wonderful time, but my buddy's date was like, frigid. She's a cool person, but maybe she's just not into the dating atmosphere? How should I react to this??? because I'm sure I will run into a girl like that in the future....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i think anti-dump said something about this

he said something along the lines of...
offer a back-up date, and if she says no to that, then say 'ok, maybe some other time then' and leave her

but then again, he was referring to being on the fone

i think most ppl would say in reference to the question u asked, that u should have already planned wat u were gonna do and she should kinda know if ur gonna go skydiving or wateva
 

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Find something both of you want to do.
 

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ok I don't think I phrased this correctly. Now that I am awake, LET ME TRY AGAIN:

The scene: a party.

The people: party goers + you + your GF/date

The problem: You want to go dance, so you grab your gf's hand and lead her to the dance floor. She pulls back and says "no, I don't' wanna dance" or "nooo I'm too tired" or something along those lines.

My idea: Just be persistent, but go off on your own and have a blast. See me and my buddy did JUST THAT, but we got back and it was a piss fight.


The solution: THIS IS WHERE YOU COME IN :D
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Set her up for a yes.

You: Are you adventurous?

Her: Yes.

You: Are you spontaneous and fun?

Her: Yes

You: Let's dance/let's go minigulfing.

Her: Sure






On a side note:

AFK Projector - remember when me and had a flame war and I called you AFC Projector...:crackup:...you have to admit that I got you.
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
Set her up for a yes.






On a side note:

AFK Projector - remember when me and had a flame war and I called you AFC Projector...:crackup:...you have to admit that I got you.
hahahahahahahaah
 

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lol you didnt quote the last part
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The scene: a party.
The people: party goers + you + your GF/date
The problem: You want to go dance, so you grab your gf's hand and lead her to the dance floor. She pulls back and says "no, I don't' wanna dance" or "nooo I'm too tired" or something along those lines.
I can't believe you ask this! here is what you do.

GF: I don't want to dance
You: fine, ill be back
*you then proceed to go dance with other girls, and you take a peak to see the jealous eyes of your GF seing you with other girls.*
This will show her that
a) you aint dependent on her to have a good time, thus making her more dependent on U
b) get her jealous as she sees you with dancing with other females
c) show her who's boss

Infact I would try to rub it in by laughing and making it seem im having a great time with the girl im dancing with (just to rub it in more to my GF of the chance she missed by not wanting to dance with me)
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
Set her up for a yes.

You: Are you adventurous?

Her: Yes.

You: Are you spontaneous and fun?

Her: Yes

You: Let's dance/let's go minigulfing.

Her: Sure
Better yet.

YOU:are you adventurous
Her:Yes
You:are you spontaneous and fun?
Her: yes
YOU:Do you like to dance?
Her: Ofcourse
You: lets dance (grab her and and led her to the dance floor)


Make it happen, and dont project that AFC.
 

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Originally posted by Joe The Homophobe
I can't believe you ask this! here is what you do.

GF: I don't want to dance
You: fine, ill be back
*you then proceed to go dance with other girls, and you take a peak to see the jealous eyes of your GF seing you with other girls.*
This will show her that
a) you aint dependent on her to have a good time, thus making her more dependent on U
b) get her jealous as she sees you with dancing with other females
c) show her who's boss

Infact I would try to rub it in by laughing and making it seem im having a great time with the girl im dancing with (just to rub it in more to my GF of the chance she missed by not wanting to dance with me)
aight man. I did that dude. you didn't read what happened? i should just let them get pissed? seriously man, hs girls can make you look like the bad guy no matter what.
 

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^yeah man they say **** like "no! i dont want to, stop trying to make me do things i don't wanna do"

and then they make u feel like u're assaulting them or something so you back off
 

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Originally posted by dyce
^yeah man they say **** like "no! i dont want to, stop trying to make me do things i don't wanna do"

and then they make u feel like u're assaulting them or something so you back off
haha totally i half expect some girls to scream rape over trying to get them to dance
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I hate dancing too. How do you know it's not a game, and she really doesn't like dancing?
 
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