"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Gazing

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Let's start at the beginning. Before the summer, before I knew about this site, I was a ignorant dater. Basically this 9/10 liked me and I made every stupid mistake in the book and screwed up my chance.

After the summer, she seems to be ok with being around me again. Based on what I learned here, I asked her out. I used every trick I learned here (kino, casual convo-> sexual convo ect.) Before I know it, she's showing strong signs attraction again. Basically, I don't know what to do now. Do I just be blunt and ask her if she want to start dating?

When we were out, she hinted both at she wants to date and she doesn't want to date
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Purefilth

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ACT! DO NOT TALK, carry on as you have been, and make a fvcking move already. its not hard
 

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ACT! DO NOT TALK, carry on as you have been, and make a fvcking move already. its not hard
Ok, but the dreaded sexual tension is through the roof. Unfortunately I didn't do the goodbye kiss with her because we parted in a crowded metro stop.

I'm planning to keep a low profile for the next two days to avoid looking like I'm obsessed. I'll ask her to have coffee after school on wendsday and go for the kiss then?
 

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Gazing said:
Ok, but the dreaded sexual tension is through the roof. Unfortunately I didn't do the goodbye kiss with her because we parted in a crowded metro stop.

I'm planning to keep a low profile for the next two days to avoid looking like I'm obsessed. I'll ask her to have coffee after school on wendsday and go for the kiss then?
Fly you fool! She's INTERESTED! When a girl gives you strong signs of attraction, you move fast. That doesn't mean bugging her every minute like an AFC, but to contact her ASAP. You are literally on a time gauge here brah. Get your phone and text her, NOW to plan a meet up.

Honestly if I had a girl who was really interested I wouldn't play those hard to get games. Those are for the wusses, and to politely show disinterested women that you are not clingy.

***Update***
My usual routine with women.

1. Ask for her number
2. Wait for a few hours set up rapport by saying it was nice knowing you. Waiting a few days can make you sound less genuine, interested, etc. Again do not be afraid of demonstrating interest in a charming manner, not the creepy obsessive way. If she texts you back within a few minutes good she hasn't flaked out. If you feel you haven't built up rapport efficiently text her the next day ask a few things about herself (Again keep these short.) Then after rapport setting, wait a few days 2-3 to set up date.
3. If she's particularly a young girl, millennial generation, txt her do not call her. Keep your txts short and direct as possible.
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Do what Harry says with 2/3 as well.

Remember all of us are failures shooting in the dark! Women are very unpredictable!
 
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Harry Wilmington

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Did someone write in asking for steps?? Very simple process:

1. Ask for the number - if you've already done this or she's given you the digits willingly, SHE'S ALREADY INTERESTED.

2. Wait a few days (I usually wait 4, but 2 or 3 can work as well), then CALL her and ask for the date. (Texting implies weakness - it makes it look like you're afraid to actually TALK to her. Plus, you NEVER want to leave a message trail that she can show to her girlfriends.)

3. Make the date at a bookstore with a Starbucks in it. You meet at the Starbucks for coffee and light snacks, then you peruse the books in the bookstore. It's like 2 dates in one, and since girls are more apt to give it up after 2 dates...

Things not to do on the date:

1. DON'T BE TOO SERIOUS. It's a date, so it's meant to be fun. No heavy talk, just be funny, learn about her, and be a gentleman.

2. DO NOT TOUCH HER UNLESS SHE TOUCHES YOU FIRST. Many guys talk about doing KINO on these boards, but it only works if she wants you to touch her in the first place. Best way to gauge this is to see if she touches you first. It could be a simple touching of your arm, grabbing your hands while she's telling you a story, hooking her arm around yours, or a brush up against you - look for these things BEFORE you start getting all grabby. Even then, make it a 3-to-1 thing: for every 3 touches, give her ONE touch.

3. DO NOT FOCUS ON SEX BEING THE END RESULT. I know it sound counter-productive, but trust - focus on the smaller steps. First focus on making sure she's having a good time. Then, focus on seeing if she touches you. Then focus on ways you can touch her. Then focus on saying things to make her feel attraction to you. Then focus on getting her alone somewhere, even if it's just to talk. Then, focus on kissing her... all this stuff will escalate if you focus on the smaller things first, that way jumping to the "big thing" won't seem like such a far jump at the end.

Best of luck to you!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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But last time I asked for a second date right after and it was downhill from then on.... (I even got the kiss on the first date last time)
 

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She started a casual convo with me today, and I took the chance and invited her to my house Saturday night for a movie. I'm still in highschool, thus living with my parents. I don't think TOO much can happen that night.... at my house anyway. I'm defiantly aiming to make out tho.

Gonna keep kinoing and talking dirty, these two tricks work like magic!

I'll keep you guys updated.
 

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OP, I went to an all boys boarding school and it was like a goddamn prison with the Christian brothers watching us like hawks to make sure none of us got any pvssy from the girls' school down the road.

But we still managed to find ways to get laid. If I could do it while at boarding school, you should be able to find a way to circumvent the whole "living with parents" thing. Good luck mate!
 

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After reading some more of the DJ bible, I'm suspecting that she could be suffering from borderline personality disorder. She has shown at least 2/3 of the symptoms...

Upon further researching, I found this article

http://voices.yahoo.com/how-spot-girl-borderline-personality-disorder-1434611.html

The "stages" describe how she acted before summer pretty well. Though, she only went to stage 3 last time, because I was so shy that I never officially dated her.

I'm thinking I should ask her to be my FWB Saturday. If she denies I only saves myself months of emotional suffer. If she accepts, then I'll have the upper hand when she shifts to emotional terrorism. The only losing situation I could be in is if I dated her.

Anyone with similar experiences? Tips? Advises?
 

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dude again don't talk, just do it.

asking her that will kill any mood, first close the deal then you see what happens, but please don't do that mistake to talk with her about it, I did it sometimes and NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING good came from it, just act.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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