“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Been with new gf for 2 weeks, find porn and other girls more attractive

OnTheWayUp

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Isn't it strange how our priorities change in the dating scene as we get more experience? 2 years ago, when I first discovered game, I would have killed just for a kiss, let alone a gf. Now I have a loving gf (my first official LTR) who does everything I want her to- and yet I want more.

I am my gf's first proper bf; she's had some experience of hooking up before, but is quite clearly fairly inexperienced when it moves beyond making out. She's 21, very feminine, brunette, and is about a 6-7 depending on make up and clothes. Physically, she's pretty average in terms of what I'm used to (5s-8s, 1 girl I would consider a 9).

Personality-wise, she's very very good. She's intelligent, makes good conversation, makes me laugh. She's feminine, giggles a lot even when my jokes aren't particularly funny. She's displayed a consistently high IL from the first day we hooked up (late November), always rescheduling if she's busy, She is often the one to initiate hook ups and, now that we've progressed from hooking up casually to dating exclusively, more coupley stuff as well. Above all, she is SANE- I've never dated anyone who plays fewer head games. The only negatives I can think of are that she watches too much TV and is very into pop culture.

A good deal then, you might think, all in all. But I want more!

I've been battling with dependency on porn for quite some time. I had managed to give it up entirely back in December-January, but it's come back. It pains me to admit it, but sometimes I enjoy getting myself off in front of a laptop screen more than when I'm with my gf. I don't watch the fakeness which is mainstream porn, mainly amateur girls on webcams. Sure, porn is no substitute for my gf's physical affection, but does it turn me on more? Sometimes, yes.

What bugs me even more is that, whilst I think my gf is really awesome when subjected to a series of SS-inspired rational criteria to judge a girl's LTR-worthiness, the caveman in me is far more attracted to other girls. This is most frustrating when better-looking girls convey IOIs. Today, at a charity event I was organising at uni, there was a blonde 8 who was blatantly flirting with me- in front of her bf. She was completely ignoring her bf, asking me questions and staying close. She will be at a party I am going to on Monday- the party is 2 mins away from my flat. Then there is another blonde 8 who I have had my eye on for a while- every time she sees me she giggles and gives me the "I want you" look when girls lower their eyes. She pretty much invited herself into my appartment block 2 weeks ago, and the SS man inside me regrets not making a move. I'm going on a man holiday to Germany in 3 weeks where there will be more hot, available girls placed in front of me.

In short, my gf does not satisfy me entirely, and I have porn plus plenty of other interested hotter girls potentially available every day. I don't want to leave my gf until I graduate, because 1) work means that I don't have time to go out like I did last year 2) she has an awesome personality for an LTR which I think will be hard to find again and 3) she lives 5 mins away, which is incredibly convenient when you finish a long day's work and just want to get laid with minimal effort.

But am I tempted to use porn and cheat? Absolutely. It's a case of morals vs penis. Help.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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floydb25

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Sounds like you just want to be single, and have fun. Nothing wrong with it. I wouldn't drag it out any further than is necessary, and break it off with her. You're trying to convince yourself to want a relationship, but its not for everybody - at all times. We all go through stages, and it sounds like you just want to be single.

Its also possible that this girl is too nice, and not challenging enough. See, we all think we want this fairytale perfect romance, but then find it boring. This is what guys need to realize when they ***** about women going after *******s, and saying they want a nice guy - because we do the same thing. Hell, the girl we are *****ing about who is claiming these things is usually a ***** seeking after *******s, and that's why we are attracted to her.
 

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Your mind telling you that you need to go through your player stage. Don't fight the urge. Whenever you do find a girl that is remotely close to being "the one" then you wouldn't have this urge. Your a young guy and your new to having success in the game. You need to play the game and get a better knowledge of it before you think of settling down.

I did the same thing for around 2 years. I was new to success and settled down with one of the first girls that gave it up. The relationship was horrible. She was taking all of my assets and rarely putting assets on the table. I was very miserable and cheated on her multiple times. (More then 20x) Even though I did cheat I was still attached to her somehow. Because I didn't have the balls to break up with her.

After a year and a half of me losing half my money; letting a broad drive my car; being deprived of sex; arguing; and mistreating my real friends me and the girl finally broke up. It was then I really applied all the things that I've learned about pick up from this and other forums.

You need to break up with this girl if you want to get other girls. Don't cheat on her, break up with her and explore the world.
 

OnTheWayUp

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floydb25 said:
Its also possible that this girl is too nice, and not challenging enough. See, we all think we want this fairytale perfect romance, but then find it boring. This is what guys need to realize when they ***** about women going after *******s, and saying they want a nice guy - because we do the same thing. Hell, the girl we are *****ing about who is claiming these things is usually a ***** seeking after *******s, and that's why we are attracted to her.
Thanks for the advice. The thing is, I like this girl precisely because she is not a challenge or an @sshole. Out of the girls I've dated since learning game, the 3 that I got most attached to all played games, and being set on an emotional rollercoaster is most definitely not for me. Leave that to the girls who are looking for *******s- I prefer emotionally stable girls.


The problem, of course, is that there are very few girls out there who are both hot (8+) and emotionally stable. SS has made me develop standards, which is a wonderful thing because it means that I come at girls from a position of strength and abundance rather than settling for the first one who opens her legs. But having standards also makes you incredibly picky and hard to please. Following this sort of thought process to its logical conclusion, why would you ever settle down when the type of girl who is worth sacrificing your options for is so rare?

One of the reasons why I haven't already dumped my gf is because I think she's superior to what I've dated previously when it comes to personality, and the dating experience I've had suggests that finding low-maintenance girls who are halfway attractive is very hard. I'd also like some relationship experience, having exclusively hooked up casually for the last 2 years.

It just frustrates me that I still look at porn and other girls in the same way as before the relationship began. Part of me wonders whether a man who understands that the vast majority of women are the same (and therefore entirely replaceable) will ever be completely satisfied by traditional monogamy.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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floydb25 said:
Sounds like you just want to be single, and have fun. Nothing wrong with it. I wouldn't drag it out any further than is necessary, and break it off with her. You're trying to convince yourself to want a relationship, but its not for everybody - at all times. We all go through stages, and it sounds like you just want to be single.

Its also possible that this girl is too nice, and not challenging enough. See, we all think we want this fairytale perfect romance, but then find it boring. This is what guys need to realize when they ***** about women going after *******s, and saying they want a nice guy - because we do the same thing. Hell, the girl we are *****ing about who is claiming these things is usually a ***** seeking after *******s, and that's why we are attracted to her.
that last paragraph is has so much truth in it i cant even comprehend it. From experience its so true that if a girl is easy and not a challenge to get you get bored of her very quickly. I actually said to this girl i talked to for 2 months that i didnt like easy girls , she said she wouldn't make it easy for me and 2nd date ... banged her. Ha and got bored... go figure. Its more fun finding a girl thats hard to get an finally getting her. And then eventually leaving her ;)
 

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Weigh her advantages against her disadvantages. If the latter outweigh the former, dump her.

Also, talking about morals is BS.

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Yeah, I understand exactly where the OP is coming from. I've given up a "perfect" girlfriend more than once the past few years - girls that have been loving, loyal, etc.

You have to realize that you must WANT to be in the relationship without any reservations. As soon as you get afflicted with "grass is always greener" syndrome, you aren't being fair to her nor are you being honest to yourself.

Get out there and experience life. No need to settle down prematurely.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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OnTheWayUp

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sighsigh said:
Also, talking about morals is BS.
Completely agree. I'm absolutely not approaching this from the point of view of "it's immoral to dump your gf after 2 weeks." My line of thinking is much more about what type of girl and relationship is best for me at this particular point in my life.
 
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