Becoming in great shape

[Chamber36]

seems like alot of people have different advice.
But since you're skinny i recommend you just start doing push ups. Just do 20 push ups 4x a day. U could also start doing 3 sets of 4 pull ups once or twice a day.
Those will get your shoulders big. It's called greasing the groove.

 

[donnyjondeppjuando]

I was 5'10 120lbs

Im now 5'10 140lbs with abs

Pure 20lbs muscle gains.

Its all about diet though..ANd thats the hardest thing for me!! and a decent basic training program. I vary my trianing but I had to cut it down for gains. I like to workout every day but as an ecto 3 days plit or 2 days full body get the gains. REST is when you grow!! not in the gym!!

Need calories and not crap!! good muscle pure building food!!

I eat:

meat
fish
eggs- up to 10 whole eggs per day
fats- olive oil, butter, coconut, cream
furit
veggies
whey protein

try 2500-35000kcals depend on your weight and metabolism.

I used to eat high carb and gained only fat. So I went natural foods and got lean gains easy.

I am skinny still but chicks dig the lean look. I wanna be at least 150-160!! I think once you get over that its good for guys but girls start to dislike it. SOme like buff but most prefer that BRadd PItt ripped lean look. which is about 5'10 155lbs low bodyfat.

COming from 5'10 120lbs Id be happy with that size tbf and the chicks dig it too so thats all good.

 

[Fuglydude]

If you are taking junk to put on that kind of weight in two months I pray for you. Seriously. Time is your friend. If you think muscle is going to get you high-end girls you are nuts. Only people I know who love muscular men are other men. I am not saying that being in shape isn't a plus for getting girls, BUT it is not the answer. Anyone on here who disagrees with me has no understanding of females.

Perhaps it is culturally different in Europe, but in Canada (and I presume in the US as well), being jacked up will help you land hot pu$$y... Trust me on this, I was a stripper for three and a half years, and I've seen tons of dumb hot 18 and 19-year old girls get their throats, snatches and asses pounded in hotel rooms, back seats, and even storage rooms by our guys after shows! One time 3 girls came to my buddy's room and he banged them one after the other assembly line style!

Anytime I'm out with my buddies from the gym, we always have hot girls with us... its just how the world works up here! Jacked up guys attract hot girls like flies to dog shiit.

Being jacked up and lean makes it a lot easier to screw hot girls as they are intrinsically attracted to hypermasculine guys. Obviously its not the only way, but it makes it A LOT easier to get into a hot girls pants fast.

Not sure what its like in Europe... Care to enlighten us?

 

[donnyjondeppjuando]

Not sure what its like in Europe... Care to enlighten us?

girls always prefer face/dress sense and a slim body.

The perfect body wont make up for an ugly face.


A slightly chubby or skinny guy with great face will always be more attractive to girls.

If your ugly muslces will help get some easy sluts at best. If your good looking well some muscle is good.

Many girls (teen) like slim indie type guys anyway. Big muscles is never in vogue excpet maybe some older women.

Think Bradd PItt and hes skinny bodybuilder wise but he has as much muscle as most women fidn attractive.

 

[typical]

girls always prefer face/dress sense and a slim body.

The perfect body wont make up for an ugly face.


A slightly chubby or skinny guy with great face will always be more attractive to girls.

If your ugly muslces will help get some easy sluts at best. If your good looking well some muscle is good.

Many girls (teen) like slim indie type guys anyway. Big muscles is never in vogue excpet maybe some older women.

Think Bradd PItt and hes skinny bodybuilder wise but he has as much muscle as most women fidn attractive.

JSTFU mate, I don't care what you or some girl thinks is good looking I do this for me for my sport so I can step into the ring and hammer the other guy/ so I can step into the gym and get a near 10 score on the rings or floor routine.

Seriously some of you guys need to stop doing things to "get women" and start doing things to "get a fu(ken life".

Who really cares what others think is or isn't good looking, if you can do amazing things in your sport of choice and beat another person then your on the right path, the rest is just mental wank!ng.

 

[Jariel]

I've been fat, skinny and am now in great shape - good muscle mass, defined abs. And I can verify that it's so much easier to get women when you look good. I'm 34 now and I have girls as young as 16 chasing me (not that I'd entertain that idea). Also, it's a bonus on dating sites where looks count for so much.

But getting in shape requires a lot of dedication and research. There are so many myths out there about getting in shape it's difficult to know just how to do it unless you put the time into learning.

Overall, it's a case of eating the right foods and working out regularly and in the right way. I personally used Diesel's bulking program over in the H&F forum and adapted it to my needs.

 

[donnyjondeppjuando]

JSTFU mate, I don't care what you or some girl thinks is good looking I do this for me for my sport so I can step into the ring and hammer the other guy/ so I can step into the gym and get a near 10 score on the rings or floor routine.

Seriously some of you guys need to stop doing things to "get women" and start doing things to "get a fu(ken life".

Who really cares what others think is or isn't good looking, if you can do amazing things in your sport of choice and beat another person then your on the right path, the rest is just mental wank!ng.

I was reffering to the posters query as to girls thoughts on muscle.

Why you mad at me.

Lol someones on too much roids

 

[donnyjondeppjuando]

I've been fat, skinny and am now in great shape - good muscle mass, defined abs. And I can verify that it's so much easier to get women when you look good. I'm 34 now and I have girls as young as 16 chasing me (not that I'd entertain that idea). Also, it's a bonus on dating sites where looks count for so much.

But getting in shape requires a lot of dedication and research. There are so many myths out there about getting in shape it's difficult to know just how to do it unless you put the time into learning.

Overall, it's a case of eating the right foods and working out regularly and in the right way. I personally used Diesel's bulking program over in the H&F forum and adapted it to my needs.

Getting in shape I have found also improves your face.

Its brighter, sharper, more defined etc...looks fresher younger, eyes sparkle.

Eat well, train well improves the face a lot.

 

[NorwegianDJ]

Just skimmed through the thread, but if you wanna add muscle, then just lift heavy (good form), eat a lot (get your macros) and rest. Compounds and high frequency of training each muscle group. Increase volume and decrease frequency the longer you train (talking years and months).

Personally I've gained about 33lbs in 7 months. Spent the last 1 and a half cutting down and focusing more on size. I did it on Anthony Ellis' program (Wouldn't recommend it really), and Starting Strength (highly recommended.)

Yeah, 20lbs of muscle would take at least a year of training. In 2 months, you might get 2 lbs.

Disagree. I gained 12 lbs (weight, not muscle) in 2 months when I started. Total of 33 lbs, if 40% is fat (40/60 gains if you dirty bulk, which I didn't), then its still more than 14lbs muscle.

 

[Jariel]

Getting in shape I have found also improves your face.

Its brighter, sharper, more defined etc...looks fresher younger, eyes sparkle.

Eat well, train well improves the face a lot.

I definitely agree there! I found exactly the same thing. My cheekbones and jawline are more defined and I look a lot healthier since I lost weight.

 

[In2theGame]

its best to get in great shape, you feel good and the girls love it. Ive always been thin because of me playing alot of basketball and baseball, 150-170 range, then i met my now ex 5 years ago and through out our relationship, i crept up to... 265 pounds, would have probably shot up to 280 pounds if i didnt feel my heart beat weird from all the garbage i was eating. After i was dumped and called fat by her, yeah i was depressed then my friends who are in the military got me going to the military base with them and in 6 months i hit 168 pounds leaned the F out. I gained alot of muscle with hardly any fat and currently 175 6'. Girls have been checking me out hardcore again. Ive always had girls checking me out but right now,.... Oh man To cut it short... Yes get in shape. Any of you curious on how i did it, let me know. (no nothing illegal) (Cardio, Diet and dedication/broken heart lol)

 

[Fuglydude]

girls always prefer face/dress sense and a slim body.

The perfect body wont make up for an ugly face.


A slightly chubby or skinny guy with great face will always be more attractive to girls.

If your ugly muslces will help get some easy sluts at best. If your good looking well some muscle is good.

Many girls (teen) like slim indie type guys anyway. Big muscles is never in vogue excpet maybe some older women.

Think Bradd PItt and hes skinny bodybuilder wise but he has as much muscle as most women fidn attractive.

Categorical statements like the one you initially made are typically wrong. I'm living proof that women, at least here in Western Canada, prefer jacked up hypermasculine guys to skinny metro pu$$ies. I was averaging $250 cash (150 show pay + tips) for a 20-30 minute stagette my last year stripping... I did most of the stagettes in my city, and was pretty good at what I did as evidenced by my tips.

I think the key is to be lean. Brad Pitt had a great physique in fight club, but he was also holding onto a fair bit of muscle. I don't think chics are into the anorexic looking skinny dudes. Conversely I don't think they dig the massive gross pro bodybuilder look either. There's always a healthy medium, with different women having different preferences. That being said, being lean, strong and healthy, is universally attractive.

Definitely notice the face thing. My face was a lot leaner back when I was dancing compared to my current bulking phase.

 

[donnyjondeppjuando]

Categorical statements like the one you initially made are typically wrong. I'm living proof that women, at least here in Western Canada, prefer jacked up hypermasculine guys to skinny metro pu$$ies. I was averaging $250 cash (150 show pay + tips) for a 20-30 minute stagette my last year stripping... I did most of the stagettes in my city, and was pretty good at what I did as evidenced by my tips.

I think the key is to be lean. Brad Pitt had a great physique in fight club, but he was also holding onto a fair bit of muscle. I don't think chics are into the anorexic looking skinny dudes. Conversely I don't think they dig the massive gross pro bodybuilder look either. There's always a healthy medium, with different women having different preferences. That being said, being lean, strong and healthy, is universally attractive.

Definitely notice the face thing. My face was a lot leaner back when I was dancing compared to my current bulking phase.

for strip shows obviously the women come for the body and the pacakage. Not attractive men showcasing their faces.

In this situation over the top muscles etc..is what its all about.

HOwever, IMO and what I have read on various internet boards for sex and especially a relationship muscles is not really off much interest to females. That being said as you agree I have foudn most women to find Bradd Pitt to have a maximum amount off muscle mass before it gets gross.

Now Bradd Pitt looked ok in fight club but as a dude he was not really big just very lean.

If you look at the most famous attractive people they always about avergae build some slimmer some a bit bulkier. But never any serious muscle head guys nor real ripped guys.

At top off my head.

James Franco
Hugh Grant
Leo Di caprio
Jonny Depp
George Clooney
Sean Connery
hayden christansen
Orlando Bloom
Keanu reeves
Zac efffron

etc....

 

[bigneil]

If you have ripped abs, good shoulders and a square jaw, you're probably fine. That generally means being less than 15% body fat.

 

[PDubb75]

If you have ripped abs, good shoulders and a square jaw, you're probably fine. That generally means being less than 15% body fat.

Ripped abs are generally closer to 10% BF. I have very strong ab muscles, work out 6 days a week, 14.4% BF (on last check), and my abs are not visible. Some people will get them to show around 12-13%, but I wouldn't call them ripped until you get down to 10%, generally.

 

[Fuglydude]

for strip shows obviously the women come for the body and the pacakage. Not attractive men showcasing their faces.

In this situation over the top muscles etc..is what its all about.

HOwever, IMO and what I have read on various internet boards for sex and especially a relationship muscles is not really off much interest to females. That being said as you agree I have foudn most women to find Bradd Pitt to have a maximum amount off muscle mass before it gets gross.

Now Bradd Pitt looked ok in fight club but as a dude he was not really big just very lean.

If you look at the most famous attractive people they always about avergae build some slimmer some a bit bulkier. But never any serious muscle head guys nor real ripped guys.

At top off my head.

James Franco
Hugh Grant
Leo Di caprio
Jonny Depp
George Clooney
Sean Connery
hayden christansen
Orlando Bloom
Keanu reeves
Zac efffron

etc....

Ya, depending on the kind of women... My fiance says she finds guys like the ones you have listed "girly". She likes guys like GSP, the Rock, Jason Stratham, etc. Then again, we're both competitors in physique "sports". She likes hypermasculine guys and loves jacked bald guys.

I think most of the guys I've worked with were definitely not bad looking in the face department. See for yourself:

http://canadianplayboyz.com/cme3.php

I'm Trey Stylz on that site.

I think most guys can look awesome and pull 8's and 9's if they commit themselves getting into elite shape.

Bigneil? Under 15%?? I wish man! Last time I was tested I was around 12%. The pics in the blue tank top are the most updated... Notice how much fatter my face is compared to the older pics.

http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/Treydesmon/

 

[donnyjondeppjuando]

Ya, depending on the kind of women... My fiance says she finds guys like the ones you have listed "girly". She likes guys like GSP, the Rock, Jason Stratham, etc. Then again, we're both competitors in physique "sports". She likes hypermasculine guys and loves jacked bald guys.

I think most of the guys I've worked with were definitely not bad looking in the face department. See for yourself:

http://canadianplayboyz.com/cme3.php

I'm Trey Stylz on that site.

I think most guys can look awesome and pull 8's and 9's if they commit themselves getting into elite shape.

Bigneil? Under 15%?? I wish man! Last time I was tested I was around 12%. The pics in the blue tank top are the most updated... Notice how much fatter my face is compared to the older pics.

http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/Treydesmon/

You have a fiance lol. If I looked like u and in the strip show business id be getting lots of girls lol u get bored or soemhtin?

NO doubt those guys can get sex easy!! wasy easy!! especially slutty girls!!

I think they are the equivalent to female pamela andersons...blonde hair big fake boobs!! Most guys would have sex with her, even if she was a prostitute/escort but not the type of girl you think youll commit too or take too seriously. Which is all good for getting laid.

I think females prefer those girly guys as u describe for relatiosnhip they think theyll be more safe, less cheating and better personality etc...

However if u look like Leo di caprio or jonny depp u can really pick and chose to be single or play the field.


the bauty off it is..u can look metro, emo, indie or buff and there will always be women that like your type. Or woudlnt say no. variety is spice off life. I like brunette with big boobs latin look but sometimes I like a cute girly girl, soemtiems I like a czech model type etc....(tlaking about my porn lol)

AS long as you are good looking skinny, slim, muscle youll do fine.

If you are average to ugly looking I think you HAVE TO get in shape to get anything!!

 

[bigneil]

Ripped abs are generally closer to 10% BF. I have very strong ab muscles, work out 6 days a week, 14.4% BF (on last check), and my abs are not visible. Some people will get them to show around 12-13%, but I wouldn't call them ripped until you get down to 10%, generally.

That's true for most - but for some reason, even when I was 19% bodyfat (now 14%) I could clearly see all my abs. At 14% I can see veins on my abs. But my jaw would look puffy at 19%. Different people place fat differently.

 

[bigneil]

Bigneil? Under 15%?? I wish man! Last time I was tested I was around 12%. The pics in the blue tank top are the most updated... Notice how much fatter my face is compared to the older pics.

http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/Treydesmon/

Looking good Fugly Trey (no homo). But for some reason a lot of those other guys look gay to me. It's as if they love the male physique so much they get bigger to look at themselves.

Fugly - out of curiosity - how many chin-ups do you do in one set?

 

[Fuglydude]

You have a fiance lol. If I looked like u and in the strip show business id be getting lots of girls lol u get bored or soemhtin?

NO doubt those guys can get sex easy!! wasy easy!! especially slutty girls!!

I think they are the equivalent to female pamela andersons...blonde hair big fake boobs!! Most guys would have sex with her, even if she was a prostitute/escort but not the type of girl you think youll commit too or take too seriously. Which is all good for getting laid.

I think females prefer those girly guys as u describe for relatiosnhip they think theyll be more safe, less cheating and better personality etc...

However if u look like Leo di caprio or jonny depp u can really pick and chose to be single or play the field.


the bauty off it is..u can look metro, emo, indie or buff and there will always be women that like your type. Or woudlnt say no. variety is spice off life. I like brunette with big boobs latin look but sometimes I like a cute girly girl, soemtiems I like a czech model type etc....(tlaking about my porn lol)

AS long as you are good looking skinny, slim, muscle youll do fine.

If you are average to ugly looking I think you HAVE TO get in shape to get anything!!

I've been outta the biz for a year and a half now... I have 2 university degrees and am currently working in critical care. Dancing was a fun few years and the cash was fantastic, as was the experience, but you gotta grow up eventually! I didn't wanna be one of those guys who still dances into his late 30s. There was actually a lot of travel involved with some gigs (not if you just did local stagettes). In additional it sucked having to be lean all the time, and not being able to eat a bulking diet and pack on more muscle.

My fiance and I were together for the majority of stripping career. I've had women, but I'm happier being in a committed relationship with a quality girl. It really helped to clean my life up... believe it or not partying, drugs and sex with random girls doesn't equal true inner happiness!!

Haha, ya I guess you Pamela Anderson comment makes sense! I've had lots of girls tell me overtly that they'd sleep with me but would never seriously date me when I was a stripper. And yes... slutty girls make it quite easy to get laid when you're a dancer! I've had weekends where I've hooked up with 4 girls. One time my buddy did 4 girls in one night. Tons of funny stories man! Slutty girls normally gravitate towards strippers and the party lifestyle, and that made it quite simple to get laid!

Looking good Fugly Trey (no homo). But for some reason a lot of those other guys look gay to me. It's as if they love the male physique so much they get bigger to look at themselves.

Fugly - out of curiosity - how many chin-ups do you do in one set?

Thanks man, but I seriously need to put on more weight. Trust me though, none of those guys are gay... lots of em have slept with hundreds of women. I have SOOO many funny stories about shiit that we've done w/ dumb slutty girls!

I don't really do chin ups anymore because my rotator cuffs aren't that happy with a large range of motion. I do however, do a variety of pull ups. I only do sets of 6 to 8 for wide grip on back days. When I'm lifting heavy I train and hammer out 6 reps w/ 90 lbs around my waist with a narrow underhand grip. The weighted work is great for stretching out the lower back after squats/deads.