“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

Beautiful girls and their insecurities - times when you can't resist neg-hitting her

Trader

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 30, 2008
Messages
991
Reaction score
72
Of course we all know that girls are hyper-insecure, even the most beautiful ones.

What's funny is, even when girls get older, they can never get any confidence.

Pook put it best: "Every girl is afraid that one day, when she gets up to look at herself in the mirror, her beauty will be gone."

Now speed seduction tells you to DELIBERATELY try and neg-hit her, but I am a 'natural' as I'm sure most of you are - we just be ourselves and we end up getting the girl anyways.

But sometimes, the situation just sets it up so perfectly, that you just have to 'neg hit her' just for the fun of it - it's all about the fun

So I take this girl rollerskating, she is 5'8, skinny, ridiculously cute. But of course, one downer to tall girls is their feet are so big. So anyways I'm getting the skates for us, and I'm like: 'So what shoe size are you' She hesitates and then becomes really embarassed: 'Oh umm...size 7.' Well, I saw that she was embarassed so I couldn't resist: 'Oh, your feet are so big.'

There was this other girl and we were eating lunch at Chipotle. Now this girl is a complete doll - 5'1, 85 lbs, she is so cute she looks like she got cut out of an anime magazine. The thing is, her skin complexion is not very good but since she usually puts on a layer of foundation/powder, so you can't really tell. Well, this was a hot summer day and her makeup was starting to peel/crack a bit, so you could start to see a bit of acne underneath. So I pointed it out: 'Hey, your makeup is peeling a bit, you need to reapply?' She pulls out her compact and realizes that I see a bit of her acne, and she gets really embarassed.


What situations have set themselves up so perfectly, where you just can't resist neg-hitting her?
 

jophil28

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 18, 2006
Messages
5,216
Reaction score
277
Location
Gold Coast. Aust.
Trader said:
Of course we all know that girls are hyper-insecure, even the most beautiful ones.

What's funny is, even when girls get older, they can never get any confidence.

Pook put it best: "Every girl is afraid that one day, when she gets up to look at herself in the mirror, her beauty will be gone."

Now speed seduction tells you to DELIBERATELY try and neg-hit her, but I am a 'natural' as I'm sure most of you are - we just be ourselves and we end up getting the girl anyways.

But sometimes, the situation just sets it up so perfectly, that you just have to 'neg hit her' just for the fun of it - it's all about the fun

So I take this girl rollerskating, she is 5'8, skinny, ridiculously cute. But of course, one downer to tall girls is their feet are so big. So anyways I'm getting the skates for us, and I'm like: 'So what shoe size are you' She hesitates and then becomes really embarassed: 'Oh umm...size 7.' Well, I saw that she was embarassed so I couldn't resist: 'Oh, your feet are so big.'

There was this other girl and we were eating lunch at Chipotle. Now this girl is a complete doll - 5'1, 85 lbs, she is so cute she looks like she got cut out of an anime magazine. The thing is, her skin complexion is not very good but since she usually puts on a layer of foundation/powder, so you can't really tell. Well, this was a hot summer day and her makeup was starting to peel/crack a bit, so you could start to see a bit of acne underneath. So I pointed it out: 'Hey, your makeup is peeling a bit, you need to reapply?' She pulls out her compact and realizes that I see a bit of her acne, and she gets really embarassed.


What situations have set themselves up so perfectly, where you just can't resist neg-hitting her?
You have a lot to learn. You did yourself no favors in both these cases. Teasing and neg hits are not meant to be opportunities to attack a woman's confidence or her sensitivities about her appearance.
It is not OK to ridicule a woman's body parts or a skin condition over which she has little control.

Go back and read Neg Hits 101 and then go out and try again .
 

slaog

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 16, 2008
Messages
1,722
Reaction score
51
Location
an island
It's supposed to show you're not putting them on pedestals so not about pointing out their faults.

Pointing out their faults makes you seem too judgmental and creates bad emotions around you. Every time you they meet you now they feel self conscious about their faults so it's not good for creating comfort.

Tease women about things that don't matter to them.


Some women are very sensitive though. I dated a girl a few months ago.. she was 5'4 and I made fun of her height. She didn't take it too good and as you can imagine she had a few issues and didn't get a second date from me.
 

Trader

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 30, 2008
Messages
991
Reaction score
72
jophil28 said:
You have a lot to learn. You did yourself no favors in both these cases. Teasing and neg hits are not meant to be opportunities to attack a woman's confidence or her sensitivities about her appearance.
It is not OK to ridicule a woman's body parts or a skin condition over which she has little control.

Go back and read Neg Hits 101 and then go out and try again .
Re-read the post - I don't do speed seduction. The speed seductionist deliberately tries to CREATE situations where you neg-hit girls to make them insecure - that's lame

I'm not trying to make girls insecure - just that sometimes though a situation sets itself up where you are just dying to tease her to see how she reacts. It's all about the fun
 

Jitterbug

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 12, 2008
Messages
3,197
Reaction score
140
Where I'm from, what you did is called: "rubbing salt into the wound" or "adding insult to injury".

Good luck with those girls though.
 

jophil28

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 18, 2006
Messages
5,216
Reaction score
277
Location
Gold Coast. Aust.
Trader said:
Re-read the post - I don't do speed seduction. The speed seductionist deliberately tries to CREATE situations where you neg-hit girls to make them insecure - that's lame

I'm not trying to make girls insecure - just that sometimes though a situation sets itself up where you are just dying to tease her to see how she reacts. It's all about the fun
You are clueless, IF it is all about "the fun" then it should be "fun" for her too.
Teasing is fun for BOTH when you master the art - but ridiculing an aspect of her physical appearance, or her Body, is a huge blunder (in particular some part about which she is sure to be self conscious)

The effectiveness of game is reflected in the outcome. Did you get her # or email - set up a date. Is she showing signs of high IL ?

MY guess is that it all backfired, you did not get the result that you sought and your post was some kind of defense of your messed up understanding of what teasing and neg hits are all about. You are now claiming that 'neg hits 'are not about seduction, they are all about you entertaining yourself at a woman's expense - now THAT is really lame.
 

Jeffst1980

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Messages
834
Reaction score
131
I 2nd jophil's responses.

Those were not negs, they were insults. You didn't demonstrate that you don't put girls on a pedestal, you demonstrated that you will exploit their weaknesses in order to make them feel inadequate, particularly in your second example. That is not something a confident man ever needs to do.

When you noticed that the girls you insulted immediately became self conscious, you took that as an IOI. It wasn't--a woman is NOT interested in flirting or sexual escalation when she feels extremely self-conscious. Sure, you lowered her "social value"--but to what end?

If you want to use negs, keep in mind that they're meant to be GENTLE TEASING. The target should feel self-conscious in a GOOD way that is conducive to attraction, not in a shameful way.
 

Poonani Maker

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 29, 2007
Messages
4,392
Reaction score
927
I like telling a woman her pvssy stinks.
 

backbreaker

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 24, 2002
Messages
11,546
Reaction score
572
Location
monrovia, CA
LMAO @ Poonani Maker

How quickly would you come back to this forum if a girl was to call you out for something about your physical appearance... when she was doing nothing but "neg-hitting" you. you'd call her every name in the book.


women like being around men who make them feel good about themselves. Don't make this any harder than it already is.
 

STR8UP

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 10, 2002
Messages
6,911
Reaction score
124
There's a fine line between a "neg" and an insult. The idea is to tease, not to insult.

You, my friend, do not know how to tease a woman.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Top