"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Baseball game for first date?

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Going on a first date with a girl saturday night. Would a baseball game be a good idea? It's the Milwaukee Brewers, so a pretty descent team.

Just not too sure if a baseball game would work that well since it'd be really noisy and might be tough to make a good connection or kino. What do you guys think? I'm thinking that or mini golf...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Effington

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As long as she doesn't hate baseball, then sure.

PS, Go Cubbies!
 

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I'm a big fan of sporting events for the first date. You get to chill, drink some beers, watch the game, talk here and there, etc. Not to mention you're outside, and there's more opportunity for interaction than at a movie.
 

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Sounds like a good first date as long as you didn't have to pay for the tickets. I don't believe in spending a ton of money on a chick for a first date. What if you drop a bunch of money then you end up hating each other and you don't get laid? Might as well have flushed that money down the crapper.
 

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This date is a great idea as long as she knows in advance where you are planning to take her, don't spring it on her on the night as she may be dressed up to the nines expecting dinner, dancing, blah blah blah.
It's cool as it's somewhere you wanna go anyway and if she really likes you she'll come along for the ride. Have a good one man.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dude... I dont suggest it. Why. Because she will be very likely to flake out. Put yourself in her place, she has to be stuck for 3+ hrs next to some guy she barely knows. If she doesn't click with you its gonna feel really akward. This is what goes thru her mind.
That is why all the big PUAs out there advice going for coffee or ice cream for the first date. Something that won't take longer than it should to make a really good first impression on her. If things are going well then you can change locations and hit the mall or movies or minigolf, etc
 

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r0cky said:
Dude... I dont suggest it. Why. Because she will be very likely to flake out. Put yourself in her place, she has to be stuck for 3+ hrs next to some guy she barely knows. If she doesn't click with you its gonna feel really akward. This is what goes thru her mind.
That is why all the big PUAs out there advice going for coffee or ice cream for the first date. Something that won't take longer than it should to make a really good first impression on her. If things are going well then you can change locations and hit the mall or movies or minigolf, etc
I hear what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. Why should he care what she does or doesn't want to do on the first date? It's all about him. She doesn't have an opinion on what they do for at least a month, she's just lucky enough to get to go along. If she wants to hang with him she'll adjust her interests to match his, not the other way around. And if she flakes, her loss. He's probably got people lined up that would want to go.

And if things don't go well or if you're not vibing with her, oh well. Get hammered and boisterous and enjoy yourself.
 
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sandman6991 said:
They're Brewers tickets:p

Which have been sold out for most weekend games. The crew is gonna make a run at the central soon after we get CC...just watch. With Sheets, CC, then Braun, Hart, Hardy, and Fielder, well....

And can't quite get hammered yet if it doesn't work out. 32 days til my 21st. :(

But I did decided against it. Gonna go with mini golf. Besides, I hate going to sporting events with girls who know nothing about sports. I like to watch the games and I hate having to explain it to girls or to entertain them if they're bored. She'll have to show she's worth of going to a brewer game before I take her to one. Thanks for the input though.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Jaxon said:
I hear what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. Why should he care what she does or doesn't want to do on the first date? It's all about him. She doesn't have an opinion on what they do for at least a month, she's just lucky enough to get to go along. If she wants to hang with him she'll adjust her interests to match his, not the other way around. And if she flakes, her loss. He's probably got people lined up that would want to go.

And if things don't go well or if you're not vibing with her, oh well. Get hammered and boisterous and enjoy yourself.
He should care only if he doesn't want another flake. =)
You're making it seem like he's already got the chick hooked on him. No bud thats what the first date is for, he doesn't really have the upper hand if there's no attraction yet!
 
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