"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Bartenders??

latinnova

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So I have been frequenting the local bars lately and the bartenders have been flirting me up like crazy and I have gotten their numbers. But, just curious, are they running their own game? I really don't take them serious because I figure they work men for the tips because that's how they make their money. But, after observing I see that they def spend more time flirting with me and way less time with the other guys. They run their hair through their heads, lean forward with all their attention fixed on me, give me free shots and have free shots with me and give me those eyes, ya u know the eyes. Im definitely in great shape, I've got my social game back on and just don't give a fock, just out to have fun, lol. Just curious how u guys fair with the bartenders?
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If you are really good you wouldn't entertain hired guns.
 

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Ya, that's what I figured, just curious what everyone else's luck was though. I'm going out with them on Wednesday, away from the bars they work at.
 
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I've dated one. IMPOSSIBLE to date. They start at 6,get off at 2 am, and I get done at 5pm. I can't stay up late enough to see them during the week. When I'm available, they are working and vice versa.... Now if she's only a part timer......
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Have fun!

They're just like any other chick. If they don't show/agree to dates or blow you in the bathroom, they're just working you for tips.
 

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Maximummax said:
+1

don't get serious with them, just pump and dump
I'll just continue getting my free drinks from them...:rockon: .. guess I shouldn't mess with a good thing, lol.
 

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I'd rather try to date a prostitute than a barmaid or waitress.

Let that one sink in.
And this is coming from a former bartender.
 

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Kailex said:
I'd rather try to date a prostitute than a barmaid or waitress.

Let that one sink in.
And this is coming from a former bartender.
Interesting insight indeed, care to elaborate? Serious, seems interesting, I would like to know an experienced viewpoint. Anyhow, I have decided to just go and have some fun with them as a friend. No I'm not being beta, I'm actually making the choice just to have a fun night out with them without trying to get laid, matter of fact that is how I view every night. Just enjoy the night.

And, I actually looked at my bill from the other night and they gave me about $30 worth of free drinks. They kept on taking shots with me and wanted me to stay after hours while they closed, which I did. Never charged me for anything except one bud light, lol. Is this normal practice?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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O.K., so went out with the bartenders last night, and they are not my type. I mean they are fun to hang out, but they have some extremely fat, douchebag type dudes go out with them and they let theses guys smack their asses and rub up against them all night long. I mean these guys are never gonna get into bed with the women, that is obvious, but jeez, these are some low class girls to let them touch them like that. I'm guessing they were letting them do this because the guys are loyal customers and tip very well.
 
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Dear Latin,
Godfathers you must be needy,but yeah a whiff of the barmaids apron when you are desperate,it helps!
 

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Scaramouche said:
Dear Latin,
Godfathers you must be needy,but yeah a whiff of the barmaids apron when you are desperate,it helps!
Godfathers you must be needy, what does that even mean? Desperate for what, just going out and having fun with ppl who invited me. I've never been out with bartenders, so decided "Hey, why not?" I tried it, experienced it, didn't like it and learned from it. Life is a journey, why not have fun with it.
 

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latinnova said:
O.K., so went out with the bartenders last night, and they are not my type. I mean they are fun to hang out, but they have some extremely fat, douchebag type dudes go out with them and they let theses guys smack their asses and rub up against them all night long. I mean these guys are never gonna get into bed with the women, that is obvious, but jeez, these are some low class girls to let them touch them like that. I'm guessing they were letting them do this because the guys are loyal customers and tip very well.
So basically you found out what we all were trying to tell you about female bartenders. Waitresses are just as bad. Most are banging the cook, the busboy or the manager and snort coke up their noses and get passed around like a joint at Woodstock by every guy that works in that restaurant or bar. There's a reason why they are a certain age and still can't get a better job then waitressing or bartending. Think about that for a second. Oh and most have kids and have no clue who the daddy is or if they do know the daddy he's either in jail or has a record.
 

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Robert28 said:
So basically you found out what we all were trying to tell you about female bartenders. Waitresses are just as bad. Most are banging the cook, the busboy or the manager and snort coke up their noses and get passed around like a joint at Woodstock by every guy that works in that restaurant or bar. There's a reason why they are a certain age and still can't get a better job then waitressing or bartending. Think about that for a second. Oh and most have kids and have no clue who the daddy is or if they do know the daddy he's either in jail or has a record.
This is correct. A bartender chick at a local bar near me was pregnant by the cook within a month of working there.

I saw another bartender girl sneak upstairs with a different cook while I was eating at the bar. Last I heard, the owner finally caught her giving the cook BJs during work hours and fired both of them.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Robert28 said:
So basically you found out what we all were trying to tell you about female bartenders. Waitresses are just as bad. Most are banging the cook, the busboy or the manager and snort coke up their noses and get passed around like a joint at Woodstock by every guy that works in that restaurant or bar. There's a reason why they are a certain age and still can't get a better job then waitressing or bartending. Think about that for a second. Oh and most have kids and have no clue who the daddy is or if they do know the daddy he's either in jail or has a record.
Haha, yup that's exactly what I found out. Guess I wanted to see it first hand, experience it, then move on to the next adventure. But you Don Juan's were right on the money.
 
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