"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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so I am going to start hitting up more bars around my area ....

only problem is ...

all the bars I hit up are so packed ...

it seems that everyone that goes in there seems to know everyone in there ...

I don't want to come off cheesy at bars , I am having trouble approaching, I mean... how do you approach? in a loud noisy place were you can bearly walk and talk to someone ?

I have had a few good times turn sour too, last time I went out with some friends , we went in with a game plan, but then when I wanted to start approaches they *****ed out ... and that kinda got passed on to me . so I *****ed out ....

I have read a few times that women are expected to be approached at bars

what are some good bar tips ?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=155952

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=156487

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=156772

There's three of my field reports from a bar I go to every week, so those might help you somewhat.

I usually use situational openers at the bar. I might ask a girl what she's drinking, or what her favorite drink is, or what she thinks I should get. Start with OPEN ENDED questions (Questions that she can't answer with a simple yes or no) Such as:

How do you like that drink?
as opposed to:
Do you like that drink?

Don't be afraid to approach, buddy. As you can see, I get afraid to approach, but it's really not that big of a deal. Don't use your fear as an EXCUSE not to approach. Just walk on up to a girl, say hi, and talk to them like you already know them! Don't build it up in your head making it seem worse than it actually is. Instead, when you see a cutie, build it DOWN in your head (if that makes sense) think about how EASY it is just to go say hi, rather than how hard it is.

Once your talking, use some subtle kino. Usually the bar is really loud, so lean close to her. Wrap your arm around her while you lean close to her ear to talk to her. Just talk about anything you want, do it in a confident manner, and she'll be responsive to you. If your goal is to find possible dates, then once you see the meeting seems to be going well with a girl, hand her your phone and tell her to put her number in it. If she doesn't know how to program her number in your phone, guide her through the process, make it fun! That's been said on here a number of times by many different members, and the reason for that is, IT WORKS.

What I usually do to test out her number is I call it right there while she's right next to me. When her phone rings, I say "There you have my number too."

I always wait to ask for her name until after we been in the conversation for a minute or two. I don't know why, but it's weird for me to approach a girl and immediately ask for her name. Instead, start some conversation, get her interested in your words, then ask for her name halfway through. That way, it feels more like you actually have a REASON you want to know her name, rather than 'you just happened to see her and want her name'.

Just remember bud, it's all in your head.
 

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Get drunk.
 
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Dannyrt34 said:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=155952

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=156487

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=156772

There's three of my field reports from a bar I go to every week, so those might help you somewhat.

I usually use situational openers at the bar. I might ask a girl what she's drinking, or what her favorite drink is, or what she thinks I should get. Start with OPEN ENDED questions (Questions that she can't answer with a simple yes or no) Such as:

How do you like that drink?
as opposed to:
Do you like that drink?

Don't be afraid to approach, buddy. As you can see, I get afraid to approach, but it's really not that big of a deal. Don't use your fear as an EXCUSE not to approach. Just walk on up to a girl, say hi, and talk to them like you already know them! Don't build it up in your head making it seem worse than it actually is. Instead, when you see a cutie, build it DOWN in your head (if that makes sense) think about how EASY it is just to go say hi, rather than how hard it is.

Once your talking, use some subtle kino. Usually the bar is really loud, so lean close to her. Wrap your arm around her while you lean close to her ear to talk to her. Just talk about anything you want, do it in a confident manner, and she'll be responsive to you. If your goal is to find possible dates, then once you see the meeting seems to be going well with a girl, hand her your phone and tell her to put her number in it. If she doesn't know how to program her number in your phone, guide her through the process, make it fun! That's been said on here a number of times by many different members, and the reason for that is, IT WORKS.

What I usually do to test out her number is I call it right there while she's right next to me. When her phone rings, I say "There you have my number too."

I always wait to ask for her name until after we been in the conversation for a minute or two. I don't know why, but it's weird for me to approach a girl and immediately ask for her name. Instead, start some conversation, get her interested in your words, then ask for her name halfway through. That way, it feels more like you actually have a REASON you want to know her name, rather than 'you just happened to see her and want her name'.

Just remember bud, it's all in your head.
thanks bud, I am gonna read your field reports
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

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decadentdestruction said:
drunk sounds good, I would but I don't want to wreck my 2007 charger on 22's

thanks for your 2 cents
Yeah, as cool as that makes you, you can get a cab.
 

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Well if everyone there seems to know eachother get to know everyone...guys and girls alike. It will make you much more comfortable. I have a very open personality and that's just natural for me, but there's like 10 bars I go to a decent amount of the time and I know all the regulars and if there's people there I don't know I talk to them. Get to know the bartenders as well.
 

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Where are you at in Ca? I know know what you mean about friends pvssy-ing out, and it kinda kills your momentum. I realized that you have to be with someone who can actually approach or has soem game, otherwise the whole group is automatically shot down. I guess alone would work well, as it does for many guys here, but I prefer a friend. The thing with bars is that it's a social environment, so people are there to socialize. Girls too, even though they act otherwise. The noise factor is just an excuse in my book, because if a guy is close enough to a girl to be talking, then she's going to hear him regardless of how loud the club is.
 
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Drewskie said:
Where are you at in Ca? I know know what you mean about friends pvssy-ing out, and it kinda kills your momentum. I realized that you have to be with someone who can actually approach or has soem game, otherwise the whole group is automatically shot down. I guess alone would work well, as it does for many guys here, but I prefer a friend. The thing with bars is that it's a social environment, so people are there to socialize. Girls too, even though they act otherwise. The noise factor is just an excuse in my book, because if a guy is close enough to a girl to be talking, then she's going to hear him regardless of how loud the club is.
southern CA

between san diego and LA ...The inland empire....
I am going to start a different approach to things , maybe change my style up a bit , The only time I go to bars on my own is to meet other people that are waiting for me inside,
I hate the fact , that I try to pump my friends up and say lets go get laid and in the end they all give up , I have this friend who is totally afraid of approaching but he is so well known in the popular inner circle , that practically everywhere I go with him people recognize him , but he doesn't have the balls to approach someone , I like hanging out with him because we share the same interests. I just can't figure out what makes him so special ...

he doesn't have a clue about what trial and error is , being rejected , getting numbers . I try to fit into his circle but I don't have the same party schedule as everybody else .

I do (slr) photography from time to time ,I am in the process of designing business cards and turning one of my passions into business , I thought about using the cards as openers ...
 
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oakraiderz2 said:
Yeah, as cool as that makes you, you can get a cab.

I would have to be super drunk, I don't trust cabs .

usually If I am going to go with a game plan of getting fd-up

I go with a designated driver .. in their car ,
or we all paper rock scissor to see who is going to be the designated driver ... ( lol no joke old school status )
... I mention the thing about my car , because I like what I drive. and once u survive an accident that nearly took your life , because some drunk f**** decided to take the wheel... the point is is that its bad.

I just like my car ...

I respect your input ...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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