"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Banging single moms... what would you do about this?

runner83

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Everyone knows (I hope) that it is an idiotic idea to get involved with single mothers for anything other than fvck, so wtf is with all these threads.?

Speaking of which, an interesting scenario has arisen for me.

I have set up a POF profile recently, and while I have been too busy to msg any girls, some have msg'd me, including some single mothers.

As far as I'm concerned, I WILL NOT raise another guy's kids for him and only want my own (maybe).

So the question is, should I:

1-Lie about my intentions (if she does specifically ask about this) or avoid the issue, to get the fvck and keep it at that level as long as possible, then dump and burn; or

2-Be upfront about my intentions and only go for GILFs, rather than MILFs.

A point of consideration is that in the case of 1- normal DJ rules would apply i.e. making sure I am getting what I want out of it, and moving on if I dont.

Thoughts?

At present, leaning towards 1-, since single moms crave d8ck as much as any other girl...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Hey runner, I like MILFs, but can't seem to get 'em. IMO, single moms are harder to get than regular girls. Wish I would've considered a woman twice my age when I was 18, much easier. Look at all the power these women have now.

Single moms still have to choose you. If they don't you're screwed, but I refuse to raise anybody else's kids that I didn't make. I'd rather an older woman but even THEY will diktease you even more than younger girls. Damn.
 

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Thanks Judge,

For me, while I do have some sort of fetish for MILFs, it has never played out that way in real life (probably when I see all the saggy bits).

For me, the biggest age differential has been + 5, which was with a 30yo married woman from my work a few years back (who wasn't a MILF at the time)...

...Crazy b8tch put me inside her without a rubber, but fortunately I saw sense and didn't go along with that. Soon after that, she went back to her husband, and got pregnant. If I hadn't been careful, the guy could have been raising my kid :eek:

Another time, met a single mum through online. Sweet girl, but banged her on the second date.

POF is powering forward. I've been on it for like 5 days, and so far I've gotten 4 numbers (2 of which are single moms, 1 a young apparent party girl who's been calling me s*xy and one girl who actually met the criteria I had listed in my profile!)

F8ck, I'm no expert on the online dating thing, but apart from a good pic, one good peice of advice is to HAVE STANDARDS in your profile

e.g.

The girl I'm looking for would be:

- Fit and active
- Good career etc
- Etc

Having standards seems to attract them, even some who don't match. And there is no need to let on to them that your standards were for an LTR, not a girl you would be happy to bang...

In all of the above, the girls made first contact, so interest is there...

...too bad I am still stuck away from thw town because of the flooding situation (I am about 1500km south at present), but I will have to make a decision soon.

Go for it with the single moms, bang them and risk being later labelled as the player that I am?

Or not go for it?
 

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Update at the present time:

Been on POF for about a week.

Got numbers from 5 girls so far (2 single moms) including one who has basically said she wants to s*x me.

3 others in the pipeline i.e. some e-mails back and forth - numbers probably soon to be obtained.

All of these girls contacted me first. I've been too busy keeping up with these to even think about first contact.

Too bad I am still stuck away from there because of floodwaters (about 1500km away seeing family).

But should give me the chance to keep busy when i get back. Some might be not be worth it or flakes, but it's a numbers game :)
 

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There are few big differences between (most) single moms and non-moms UNTIL they try to introduce you to the kids. Usually single moms are easier to sex. If a single mom tries to get you involved with her kids, that's the time to eject. I dated two single moms, both of whom waited over a year before trying to introduce me to the kid. In that time there was some hot sex. Then there was one single mom who brought her kid on the first date! There wasn't a second.

So I'd say, approach normally and stick around until she tries to involve you with the kid(s), which she will attempt at some point.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Zarky said:
There are few big differences between (most) single moms and non-moms UNTIL they try to introduce you to the kids. Usually single moms are easier to sex. If a single mom tries to get you involved with her kids, that's the time to eject. I dated two single moms, both of whom waited over a year before trying to introduce me to the kid. In that time there was some hot sex. Then there was one single mom who brought her kid on the first date! There wasn't a second.

So I'd say, approach normally and stick around until she tries to involve you with the kid(s), which she will attempt at some point.
Thanks mate. I'll keep that in mind.

I've only done it (a single mom) once before. We banged on the second date, and she brought up the kid after that, so it was time to eject!

Will keep you posted.
 
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