"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ball's in my court, but now what?

JoE BoXeR

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First post back in quite some time. Things are going much better for me but I seem to have stumbled into a situation that, for once, I'm really not sure how to play. I'll keep it as short and sweet as possible.

The girl in question has openly had a thing for me for almost a year now. Seeing as I had all my classes with this girl for the first semester of last year, I was able to win her over with my intelligence, humour and confidence. She knew that I knew she liked me.

I saw less of her the second semester but regularly heard that she still really liked me and I was interested in her as well, but never closed (I had my reasons back then, some of which I regret now, but either way, what's done is done).

The last time I saw her face to face we were both drinking and I came painfully close to getting the hook up I was after (she was maybe a little too tipsy and there were too many people around).

That was a couple months ago and we really hadn't crossed paths since, until today. I got good EC, smile, body language etc. from this girl (keep in mind, I AM interested now). I wasn't expecting to see her so I suppose I wasn't exactly on top of my game but I left the encounter feeling good.

Cut to the chase, I'm tired of treading delicately with this girl. Considering sources close to her have still said she's interested, I haven't blown my chances by waiting so long.

As it stands, I'm looking to just pull her aside and kiss her at the next opportunity (this weekend at a party would be ideal). Is there any reason to suggest that that's coming on too strong or could backfire?

Also, I'm looking to say something to her, however brief, in response to the fact that she's liked me for a while, I've known all along, but haven't actively pursued it until now, right before we kiss, so that she doesn't think I'm some jerk just looking for some play from the easy target girl-who-likes-me.

It's late, but I hope I've made myself clear. Pleeeeeease can I get some feedback on this? It's driving me crazy.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Tomb

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Don't try and kiss her that's too strong, she's not some girl you met at a club. Why not do the normal thing and ask her for her # and if you already have that, ask her out. Duh!
 

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sometimes I feel people on this forum think waaaaaaaay to much about what they should be doing instead of living a bit more in the moment, if it feels natural and right to kiss her next time you see her then do it, don't stop to think otherwise you will imagine to many things, the only thing I would say is don't mention to her that you knew she liked you for ages it could come across very wrong in the sense that you knew she liked you but you thought you could do better so tried to play the field, realised you can't do better so you went to her as a safety net. one of my rules of thumb is "think about how you would react in a situation, then think of the opposite and that is how a women will react"
 

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Originally posted by Dr Box
sometimes I feel people on this forum think waaaaaaaay to much about what they should be doing instead of living a bit more in the moment, if it feels natural and right to kiss her next time you see her then do it, don't stop to think otherwise you will imagine to many things, the only thing I would say is don't mention to her that you knew she liked you for ages it could come across very wrong in the sense that you knew she liked you but you thought you could do better so tried to play the field, realised you can't do better so you went to her as a safety net. one of my rules of thumb is "think about how you would react in a situation, then think of the opposite and that is how a women will react"
What??? This is a girl in his class. Just grab her and kiss her? haha This is not hollywood. haha

Actually I take my advice back, do it! Grab her and kiss her. I want to see what happens haha
 

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LOL maybe I misread it, I thought he was going to do it at a party and also it sounds like she is keen, be spontanous and confident, one of two things will happen a)she likes it..........or errrr b) you have sore nuts.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Get her number and call her up. Go from there.
 
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