Ballroom Dancing

[ebracer05]

Guys, I've been taking ballroom lessons for the past 3 months or so and I think it teaches men so much about how to properly handle a woman. The man's sole purpose in the dancing is to LEAD the woman wherever it is that HE wants her to go. It's all about control, knowing how to transition, and how to make the woman follow.

There's a lot in all of this for discussion I think. It's absolutely great and I think everyone who wants a lesson in the proper way to handle a woman should check in to it... and seriously, how much easier could a pickup be when you put yourself in a situation where you're literally instructed to hold a woman against your body?

 

[Vice]

I met a girl ballroom dancing; ONCE. We f*cked the following weekend. It's really helped with my confidence, and it's made me alot more confident in bed. It's a great experience. Especially if you bring your girlfriend, it teaches the woman how to follow.

I love the power struggle that happens when a woman tries to lead YOU, and you just grab the reins and control her forcibly until she realizes it's better if she relaxes and lets you take the lead. Priceless expression

 

[bluenorther]

It certainly gives you an appreciation for a partner's "frame", which is how the person projects him/her self physically. You'd be surprised how much more fun big hefty chicks can be! The little ones are like toys that you're afraid to break. Some of our dances ask the men to step in together, and I go "Damn! Why can't the women put this kind of energy into it?" I had a friend who used to compete in women's power lifting, and she was a blast. People complimented how we looked together.
I came across one woman who felt *just right*, but it was a venue I rarely went to, and I never saw her again.
I only met one who wanted to get together after the dance, but I blew it with her. It was before I learned about PUA. She wasn't divorced yet, anyway; I think she was just practicing to be single.

I work at the riding stables, and I can make a comparison with being a dance partner to your horse. That's something the ladies can relate to-- you can't just be a piece of cardboard, along for the ride, you gotta put some effort into it. Like horses, no two women feel the same.

 

[AAAgent]

i have horrible frame. my mom competes or did for 2 years until this year. she used to pay for my lessons. i wouldn't have minded learning but as since her teacher was male he was also teaching me.

I learned to do a basic waltz with a routine that i memorized that lasted about 2 minutes. I don't hold my frame well but i can dance around the room. I want to learn the latin dances with a fun girl. not a guy.

 

[loveshogun]

I've been competing for more than 5 years.

The biggest thing about being a good leader is being able to instinctively pick up non-verbal cues. Also, the ability to project yourself (standing up straight, economy of movement, moving with purpose) is a universal skill. I found that before I started dancing, there are very few ways to really practice this in other environments.

Problem is, now that I've been doing it for so long, it's tougher for me to appreciate women who DON'T dance.

Be this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0zy54XqjQE

 

[handle]

Ballroom is sweet. Word of advice to anyone looking to use it as a pickup tool: do something like cha cha or salsa, none of this waltz stuff. As the guy 2 posts above me can attest to, waltz isn't going to do much for your game. Learn a latin dance, preferably. Or swing. Something fun.

 

[Nemic]

Semi related, but typically whats the cost of these lessons you guys are doing per session?

 

[loveshogun]

Semi related, but typically whats the cost of these lessons you guys are doing per session?

Depends on how you want to do it.

I find competitive lessons to be the most bang for your buck. You would typically be part of a group class of people of similar level (in your case, intro/pre-bronze/bronze), where you can pay something like 15 a class (for classes that are 75-90 minutes).

To fill in gaps, you would also take one-off privates with a competitive coach. Prices there vary, but for a good coach, usually around $60 for an hour. Until you get to championship level, I'd never pay more than $90 for a private. Shirley Ballas (Mark Ballas' mom and widely recognized as one of the best latin coaches in the world) charges 350 for 45 minutes, I think.

Learning socially at a local studio is a lot less pressure and more individualized attention, but that's because you'll typically be taking all private lessons (at that $60+ per hour rate).

The reason I prefer group classes is because they're more collegial.

Also, the hottest girls do it competitively. Though they're usually also rich, and have an inflated sense of entitlement. This is where talent and manliness becomes your shield against the whiny b*tches.

What part of the country you live in? Tennessee? I don't know many coaches out there, but I can look into it.

As for me personally, I pay about 100 a month for weekly group lessons (twice a week - I go through a college club), and during competitive seasons I usually pay $60-$75 an hour for a private twice a month.