"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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Bad Oneitis. Help!

mojo16

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hey guys i need your help!

i have bad oneitis. im 19 and the girl im chasing is 17 (hb9.5).
now i know most of you will tell me to move on, but the thing is, i like this girl, so if i can help it id like to continue with my siege a little longer… if thats possible?

so anyway, basically hb9.5 is the little sister of one my friend who is also a girl (hb0.5)
our relationship began about 9 months ago on facebook and since then we have become really close.

This girl is a really really weird case, so i have no idea if the normal rules apply to her haha
firstly, up until this week she has never kissed anyone, even though she gets asked out weekly according to her sister. apparently guys will stop her in the street and ask her to marry them occasionally haha.

anyway we started talking, got close, and hung out a few times, which i called dates, not hanging out, so obviously she knew my intentions from the start….

before we hung out, we had spoken on facebook and texted for a good three months, with her starting off really shy, and me hardly responding to her, which im sure f***ed with her head since guys normally throw themselves at her…

id see her occasionally, like at the shopping centre, and when i did she would go bright red and smile a lot but remain really quiet and blah blah blah… after we parted ways once, i got a text which said hey, im so sorry i cant talk normally around you :( you make me so nervous! xoxox (i have no idea if this is a good thing)

so our dates went good, we went out to the city, saw a movie, talked heaps and she became much easier to talk to, we usually ending up holding hands at somestage,
other times she just came over to my house and we would watch a heap of movies.

ANYWAY, the things she says in text messages really indicate she likes me, ie, iloveyou, you the best guy in the world, and when she went to the UK for a month, it was all, i miss you so much, all that girly sh*t! (i have never replied that i love her, i have said i miss you too though haha)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Schwank

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Firstly, learn how to write a coherent post. Secondly, what is your question? From what I garnered from your post, I figure that there IS some interest on her part. However, you won't really know for sure till you actually step up and escalate: throw in some sexual innuendo, playfully touch her and so on. If she responds positively to this, then simply take it up a notch... then if she responds positively to this take it up one more notch -- escalate till you have her naked. Also, don't just count on this one chick. Play with more girls so you don't get too hung-up on this one particular chick. You won't get "oneitis" if you have plenty of options...
 

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She has interest in you but she is still young. If you are located in the states I would recommend you wait until she's 18 before trying anything sexual lol. Anyway, you are reading waaaay too much into this (when you do that, its never ever a good thing). You already know she has some interest in you, you don't need our confirmation, just follow your gut and escalate it! :up:
 

WC2

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Read the DJ bible.

You're in over your head and you don't yet know what true attraction from a woman is.

A woman who says 'you are the best guy in the world' will most likely never make love to you.

You are her friend. You watch movies and talk.

It's better to be brutally honest than brutally stupid.
 

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mojo16 said:
hey guys i need your help!

i have bad oneitis. im 19 and the girl im chasing is 17 (hb9.5).
now i know most of you will tell me to move on, but the thing is, i like this girl, so if i can help it id like to continue with my siege a little longer… if thats possible?

so anyway, basically hb9.5 is the little sister of one my friend who is also a girl (hb0.5)
our relationship began about 9 months ago on facebook and since then we have become really close.

This girl is a really really weird case, so i have no idea if the normal rules apply to her haha
firstly, up until this week she has never kissed anyone, even though she gets asked out weekly according to her sister. apparently guys will stop her in the street and ask her to marry them occasionally haha.

anyway we started talking, got close, and hung out a few times, which i called dates, not hanging out, so obviously she knew my intentions from the start….

before we hung out, we had spoken on facebook and texted for a good three months, with her starting off really shy, and me hardly responding to her, which im sure f***ed with her head since guys normally throw themselves at her…

id see her occasionally, like at the shopping centre, and when i did she would go bright red and smile a lot but remain really quiet and blah blah blah… after we parted ways once, i got a text which said hey, im so sorry i cant talk normally around you :( you make me so nervous! xoxox (i have no idea if this is a good thing)

so our dates went good, we went out to the city, saw a movie, talked heaps and she became much easier to talk to, we usually ending up holding hands at somestage,
other times she just came over to my house and we would watch a heap of movies.

ANYWAY, the things she says in text messages really indicate she likes me, ie, iloveyou, you the best guy in the world, and when she went to the UK for a month, it was all, i miss you so much, all that girly sh*t! (i have never replied that i love her, i have said i miss you too though haha)
Maybe WC2 is right...

Is it possible that you never made a move when she was open to it because if that happens more then a couple times your pretty much fvcked.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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bish0p

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I would like to see a pic of this HB 0.5. Is she really that ugly?
 

mojo16

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**** it got cut short, heres the other half...

...sooo this story wraps itself up a few days ago, we were going to go out on the saturday night the day before valentines day, and we both knew we were going to be valentines once it ticked past midnight…. 4 hours before we go, she flakes on me…? shes “sick”.

i act like i couldnt careless, which is really really damn hard, coz if you dont talk much, you seem pissed of, and if you act all nice, you seem like a chump, but i think i swung more towards the pissed off end of the scale, because she messaged me the next day a few times asking if i was okay, and that she was really sorry! but that she was genuinely sick.

at this time i came up with a theory which i was pretty proud of, and im sure will be quoted alongside ghandi in no time. (you only let being sick get in the way of things you dont want to do) YEAH. TAKE THAT.

SO THEN, after all that, with about 10 minutes to go on valentines day, she messages me and says happy valentines day :( - so i cracked and asked her to be my valentine, to which she replied ‘yeeessssss of course i wiiiiill in the hot girl voice thingy that they do…
so because im kind of in a bad mood still, i said to her, well i dont know the rules of valentines very well, but im sure i owe you a flower, and you owe me a kiss, to which she said ‘well it had better be a pretty lovely flower’ :)

24 hours later, its midnight and i just arrive at a mates house for a party, (im sober)
and she has been texting me all day, to which ive been pretty blunt in replies..
i ask her if shes home, she says yeah howcome? and i tell her to come out the front in 10 mins, because she lives just around the corner, so this happens and she gives a huge awww when she sees the flower and a hugs me for about a minute, then lets go and then hugs me again…

we stand in her driveway for about 10 minutes and then her parents rock up home from a concert haha, and totally kill the mood, coz im sure they wonder why their youngest daughter is outside with some chump they have never seen before, anyways they go inside but she kinda has to go now… so we say our goodbyes, and then she stares at me for a few seconds and slowly starts to leave, i say, umm hb9.5? i think you owe me something, so she steps forward and kisses me on the lips for about 1.5 seconds haha..
so that was her first kiss apparently. i got text about an hour later saying you the sweetest guy in the world or something.

AND THEN! this is the weird part, the next day, she texts me again saying can i ask you something, i say of course, and she says, umm well, i was just worried, that by kissing you, i mean, we’re still just friends yeah?

WTF. WTF. WTF. what the f*ck is this? hahah look tbh i did kinda lul at this message, but still it did hurt. i replied uhh you worry too much (my attempt at negging her) its just a kiss! relax! (another attempted neg)

and thats where im stuck…. SOMEONE HELP ME! does she like me, or does she just want to keep me in orbit around her forever…… ??
 
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