"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hi.

I have a reputation at school that I'm a psychotic cagefighter (I AM a cagefighter), and that I can beat anyone at school (Which I probably can) and that I like to stomp people in their faces while they are lying down. (I do like fighting (and stomp to the face is one of my best moves), but I'm not some savage manic berserker who fights anything that moves.) and that I am hellishly strong. (I can "fireman's carry" around people who weight more then then twice my weight, and I can do push-ups while clapping both my hands AND feet.)

It's good since people fear me and give me fearspect. It is bad, however, since the girl I like also has heard that.

Another bad thing is that most people that know me somewhat well (All pupils who have same classes in different courses, I.E. she) think that I'm strange (Or somewhat mentally sick (mostly because I don't think much, get strange ideas, and am very impulsive and unpredictable.). And if there's a strange person in a group, it's always me. I'm a magnet for weirdness and strange people, but some people just try to avoid me. And not being very social is not helping. And she thinks that I'm sick.

The only persons who don't fear me (but still thinks that I'm sick) are my two "errand boys" whom I've promised to defend in fights if they help me with that girl.

What should I do?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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First of all

Just because you're strong

doesn't mean that equals charm

An approachable down to earth guy seems friendlier that a psycho cagefighter

You can't come off as " I'm gonna beat your ass" all the time

Fear is not a good thing

Try to smile

Don't be in a tough frame all the time

These kinds of things take time

You have to build comfort and trust

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16947

Also check

how to win friends and influence people
 

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1: I'm not acting though, saying "I'm gonna beat your ass", act psychotic or anything else, people just have heard the rumours and act as if I did.
2: I try to smile, but I'm very unsocial, and when I smile, people think that I'm psychotic.
3: I try to be friendly, but it doesn't always work well, and I try to be as "down to earth" as possible, which is very difficult to be for an eccentric guy.
(And since I'm born and raised in a (Real) circus, it's normal for me to be over the top and very eccentric.)
 

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Heh, i can jut imagine you having some really creepy smile that scares people ahah. Anyway try to get more social with guys and eventually youll meet girls through that.
 

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I can see youre not that scary if youre asking people for help on this over the internet.. anyways your reputation wont go away you gotta go in and show people youre not liek that, the only way to change your reputation is by.. changing your reputation and you can only do that changing the way people see you and you can only change that by showing them somehtign different to what they think, its easy
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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SMILE.

Just do it.

SMILE.

When you see a hot girl.

SMILE.

That feeling inside.

SMILE.

Let it out.


Seriously smiling says 'hey I'm completely non-threatening'. It is instinctual. It builds comfort and a connection instantly, as well as making you look better and transfering happy feelings.

Aside from that just be a nice guy. You already have the rep you don't need to be tough. I wouldn't say all of this normally but be polite, help people out when you can, read How To Win Friends and Influence People. Be more funny than ****y. Humble but not a pushover or AFC. Don't dislike ANYONE. Find something you like about everyone reguadless of how they treat you.

Most of all, don't get in any unneccesary fights outside the cage.

You can easily turn this around. Go for it mate ;)
 
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