"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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ARrocket

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Got her number awhile back...met her at this tennis program. Didn't call for months (had other things/women to worry about). Called her up, set up meeting for next day. Things start off well, I kino from the start...she didn't reciprocate, but all seemed well. Walked around, ate, walked some more...(at a mall....but like an outdoor mall...if that makes sense). Anyway, towards the end she seemed to get physically distant...started rejecting my attempts at escalating kino. She started walking further away from me, etc. Near the end I grabbed her hand, but after 30 sec or so she started pulling it away, so I let go...and because of this I didn't even go in for the kiss, just a brief hug (in hindsight, I wish I at least kissed her cheek....oh well).

Is it a lost cause? I mean she's a pretty shy girl, but idk...doesn't look promising. And, should I bother calling her again? If I do see her again, I'd make sure to get more physical right off the bat...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Had the same experience a few months ago...she never wanted a 2nd date.
 

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ARrocket said:
Got her number awhile back...met her at this tennis program. Didn't call for months (had other things/women to worry about). Called her up, set up meeting for next day. Things start off well, I kino from the start...she didn't reciprocate, but all seemed well. Walked around, ate, walked some more...(at a mall....but like an outdoor mall...if that makes sense). Anyway, towards the end she seemed to get physically distant...started rejecting my attempts at escalating kino. She started walking further away from me, etc. Near the end I grabbed her hand, but after 30 sec or so she started pulling it away, so I let go...and because of this I didn't even go in for the kiss, just a brief hug (in hindsight, I wish I at least kissed her cheek....oh well).

Is it a lost cause? I mean she's a pretty shy girl, but idk...doesn't look promising. And, should I bother calling her again? If I do see her again, I'd make sure to get more physical right off the bat...

hey dude, wassup? after a lnog time. hope everything is well. well to ur ques, i would say, next time learn the "two steps forward and one step backward" rule and do call her again. she may be shy but she might want you secretly. unless she shows clear signs or says outright, dont give up hope, okay?
 

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just give her a call.. wats the worst that can happen.... her saying no... If you dont call ull never know.
 

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Hey schttrj, what's up?

And yeah, I know I should call her again sometime. But I'm wondering if I should have gone in for the kiss despite the signs (especially pulling her hand away from mine).

And suavesuave....you called her for a second date?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DonS said:
You kino'd, she didn't reciprocate; you held her hand; she didn't reciprocate. She then distanced herself from you. I'm not sure, but where I went to school this means she isn't interested. And you say if you went out with her again you'd get even more physical even more quickly? This poor girl.

Wait a week and give her another call to invite her out biking or whatever. If she declines by making up an excuse, move on. Otherwise, if you do go out with her again, knowing that this is a shy girl who is very young, ease off the kino. Because from her actions, she either doesn't like you or is uncomfortable with your hands all over her so quickly. Good Luck.
I suppose you're right. Even if she IS interested at all, this will take some time, and time is what I don't have (I'm moving in 3 weeks...I'll be back every now and again, but it's not worth it). Perhaps I'll just leave it alone, unless she contacts me.
 
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