Bad Boys get all the "babes".

[The Message Boy]

Hughman,

Beyonce's father was not only in her life but made her and Destiny's Child into superstars.

Now who does Beyonce go out and CHOOSE to marry? Gangbanger Jay-Z. So the entire "they didn't have a father or they had a rough father" argument in my opinion is useless.

Nobody wants to come otu and say that Black Women are crap. Nobody. But we can sit around and talk about how Black Men are all in prison, are low quality, etc., all day long. But no one calls Black Women out on their ****.

And I"m not talking about Black women not wanting nerds and dudes that are asexual, no woman wants that guy.

I'm talking about whole, masculine, DJ guys getting picked over by Black Women because they are not literal gangbangers.

This is not a made up fantasy, and it's not just ghetto black Women, it's black women everywhere.

 

[Hughman]

Hughman,

Beyonce's father was not only in her life but made her and Destiny's Child into superstars.

Now who does Beyonce go out and CHOOSE to marry? Gangbanger Jay-Z. So the entire "they didn't have a father or they had a rough father" argument in my opinion is useless.

Nobody wants to come otu and say that Black Women are crap. Nobody. But we can sit around and talk about how Black Men are all in prison, are low quality, etc., all day long. But no one calls Black Women out on their ****.

And I"m not talking about Black women not wanting nerds and dudes that are asexual, no woman wants that guy.

I'm talking about whole, masculine, DJ guys getting picked over by Black Women because they are not literal gangbangers.

This is not a made up fantasy, and it's not just ghetto black Women, it's black women everywhere.

The last time I checked Jay-Z is a huge success. Maybe he cheats and beats her, but I find that unlikely.

Hang on, where did black people come into this? I was just pointing to my own family.

It's all thanks to the welfare state and the loss of the taboo on bastard children that women act they way they do. I read somewhere that before socialism hit America, black women actually had the highest rates of fidelity and lowest rates of children born out of wedlock.

 

[Raikojo17]

I got told the same think by a woman once

she told me i was too nice because the way I spoke to her. Instead of "Hey, let's go out for a bite to eat" it should be "B1tch! we're gon get something to eat!" and she was dead serious. I wasn't even on this girl, but she felt the need to critique my character. Like you, I really didn't care, and just told her whatever.

I'm naturally soft spoken and nice, so if she doesn't like it then she can fvck off.

In regards to the daddy argument. I don't think women actively seek out clones of their dads, but I think the presence of a dad helps the women learn how to communicate with males and form relationship with them. If daddy was a jerk or was absent, then they from a young age might think that all or most men are jerks and that that is normal. Likewise, if daddy was a good man, they will know that the ideal mate is a good man and learn to form healthy relationships with men.

Now this can go both ways. My gf's dad wasn't absent, but she will tell you how he is pretty much one of the meanest guys she knows. He loves his kids to death, but he's just an *******. Me and him are nothing alike, and she personally doesn't want someone like her dad, because she can't stand him sometimes.

I don't think it's any use over analyzing this though. some women are fvcked up, and those are the one's you want to avoid

 

[backbreaker]

i am in fact black. It was not so much a LJBF as much as it just prompted the bad boy dicsusssion in my head when it happened.


I have success with a certain type of woman. educated, at least somewhat, easy going women who like guys who dress up.


even girls in the past who I half ass talked to (they basically told me they liked me) sometimes were into thugs, and if I would have tried i could have had them and we both knew it, but i am not attracted to those types of women.

 

[Don Israel]

Jay-Z might have lived a street life before becoming famous, however, he cannot be a gangbanger and be a media personality. you want gangsters? look into the mob, you pick - russian or italian?

 

[Hughman]

Jay-Z might have lived a street life before becoming famous, however, he cannot be a gangbanger and be a media personality. you want gangsters? look into the mob, you pick - russian or italian?

Hmm, haven't you noticed the 4 nations with the most organized crime, Russia, Italy, Mexico and Colombia, have the hottest women?

 

[She_feelin_Me]

Man I hope you checked that chick...Couldve been like okay thats cool but I dont care, you're not my type anyways.

 

[SickAgain]

Hmm, haven't you noticed the 4 nations with the most organized crime, Russia, Italy, Mexico and Colombia, have the hottest women?

Maybe Russia. But honestly those other countries lack in women department. Anyways this whole thread has become kind of racist. Black women are no different than any other type. It just that many have grown up in less than ideal situations that do not emphasize an affluent and moral lifestyle.

 

[Kevin Feng]

Well, I totally see where you’re coming from but that being said, that isn’t going to help guys alleviate their pick up issues.

Even though what you say does make sense, in the pick up community, it’ll just give guys one more reason not to make the approach. I mean yeah, not every girl is perfect, but how do you know until you approach them. Not every girl you approach is going to be a girl that you want to end up being with, but that’s just life in general.

I’ll be one to admit that I’ve met some of the trashiest girls in clubs, but I’ve also met a good handful of them, you’ll find good/bad people everywhere you go in life.

 

[backbreaker]

Well, I totally see where you’re coming from but that being said, that isn’t going to help guys alleviate their pick up issues.

Even though what you say does make sense, in the pick up community, it’ll just give guys one more reason not to make the approach. I mean yeah, not every girl is perfect, but how do you know until you approach them. Not every girl you approach is going to be a girl that you want to end up being with, but that’s just life in general.

I’ll be one to admit that I’ve met some of the trashiest girls in clubs, but I’ve also met a good handful of them, you’ll find good/bad people everywhere you go in life.

what does that have to do with my post? all i'm sayin is that a woman who makes a statement about me without even knowing me whatsoever just based off the way I dress, is not a woman I'm interested in the least bit. has nothing to dowith trashy girls in clubs, we weren't even in a club, or picking girls up.

 

[comic_relief]

believe me, I recently had a situation occur that got me away from a group of people that an a previous flame was hanging with really quickly.

I was meeting up with a girl (let's call her Em) for a housewarming party and her best friend/roommate (Linds) got drunk. At the end of the night, I didn't care for the music or people. Convo Time:

Her: "Hey CR, we need to talk."
Me: "Alright, whats up?"
Her: "I don't like you. I mean your a nice guy, but I would never had talked to you unless Em would have introduced us."
Me: "Alright, you're entitled to your opinion."
Her: "Well, here is the reason that I don't care for you."
Me: "Go on..."
Her: "You have low self-esteem issues... you can't fight or stand up for yourself... you won't be able to protect Em... and you are not over your ex-gf."
Me: "I'm over my ex first and foremost, but lets start to look at these. You were able to meet me twice and you were able to make those accusations?"
Her: "No, we met three times."
Me: "Forgive my ignorance. How did you come to these conclusions?"
Her: "Well, you didn't argue with me when I said 'Sudoku'"
Me: "Ah... ok, forgive me for that. Let me tell you a little story."
Her: "no."
Me: "well, I listened to all of your bullsh!t so I'm going to tell you a story or two."
Her: "Ok..."
Me: [tell her a story of a fight]"
Her: "Really?!? Why didn't you tell me that story?"
Me: "because I'm not trying to scare you away. I was trying to make a favorable impression, but I don't think that will matter anymore."
Her: "Why?"
Me: "Because I don't really care to see you that much anymore."
Her: "but..."
Me: "Later."

Later that next morning, I walked out with my head held high and not caring about it.

Most men get the wrong type of women and that is why they become miserable. This is why spinning plates are so important. Weed out the damn stupid ones.

- comic_relief

EDIT: I go for the well educated college girls that have extra-curriculars other then partying. If they don't. I don't care to give them a shot. I learned that rule earlier in the year.

 

[backbreaker]

you know the type of woman I have found not to be desirable nd youd think i am nuts. but the woman who everything out of her mouth is somethig about sex or some type of sexual induendo.

I know a girl, actually a friend of my GF's, and she is pretty attractive. about 5'5, redhead, very nice curves. anyway, she can't look at a commercial or see a football player without making some type of sexual comment about it. we get it, you are grown and you want to ****. now what?

it's like the only thing they see them is as fvck boxes.

then have the nerve to wonder why everyguy that they go out with just wants to ****. humm...

 

[rakishness]

The problem is Bad boys also end up dating the girls we do WANT. The ones NOT at the bar or club. They don't subscribe to societal rules and are willing to challenge the norm. This gives them a HUGE advantage over the typical "nice" guy who isn't willing to do so.

 

[Blue Phoenix]

People attract those to "complete" what they lack.

I was going out with a girl who was "divorced" from her abusive husband (he did drugs, used her money, etc). We were doing fine, however when he contacted her saying he was coming back, guess what?

She left/dumped me to go back to this guy. After some months I could see she has NO self-steem, that´s why she needs someone to kick the hell out of her. I´m sure this is not conscious, but it´s creepy. (btw, Her mother always puts her down).

I used to fall in love with girls who didn´t bother to talk to me. After I´ve started working on myself, today, I like other kinds of girls.

There´s a lot of parasitism in relationships. That´s why some people are attracted to certain types of partners, what´s mind-blogging is that people tend to repeat the dynamics that happened with them in their childhood.

I have a female cousin who has a very controlling father, guess what? she´s dating a guy who folows her around 24/7, checks her emails and facebook!!!

Being a "too good" father is as damaging as being "too bad".

 

[DonGorgon]

Bad boys are more likely to impregnate women so nature makes her choose him (carnal attraction) most of the time when she is most fertile and attractive 18 to 35.. good guys are more likely to take care of the kids she had for the bad guy so she chooses him later on when she is old and used but perfect for the desperate good guy...

 

[Nutz]

Had the "you're too nice" thing a while back. I was having a good night and was in the zone...

HB: You're too nice.
Me: Yeah, I know. Turn around.
HB: Why?
Me: I'm soooo nice you have to trust me, right?
HB: <hesitant>....okay.... <turns around>
Me: **slaps her ass** You don't know me as well as you think you do.
HB: <deer in the headlights look> I can't believe you just did that!
Me: Yeah, it was "nice".
HB: ....yeah, I mean NO! <begins to IOI Gatling gun>

We made out a bit later on, but she fizzled because I didn't pull in time.

 

[Kupid Diggs]

Backbreaker I understand what your saying fully. Hopefully one day I can find a woman who likes me for being me. Most females aren't even worthy of my greatness honestly. Its the same with a lot of dudes they just don't realize it.

How can we blame the media either lol? Lol, I am ranting now so I will stop. It's just that if I decide to go out and rape and kill people, I don't have the scapegoat to say well, "I grew up without a father," or "MTV made me do it," I broke the law and I am scumb and I am going to jail.

Not with black women. Majority of black households are single parents with teh woman taking care of the child and the guy out doing what he HAD been doing when he met the woman. Why is it that the SAME type of guys are mating with black women?

Do you really think a Hill Harper type of guy is going to run off on his kids like that? Hell no. But, Hill Harper would never get past the telephone to these black women to even have a chance of making a child!

If you are a gangbanger, sells drugs, high school drop out, ALL black women want you and I'm sorry to say that. If you are just a regular DJ Masucline Black Man, you are not "black" or "hood" enough. And this coming form black women who want all of these stupid requirements, but most of them themsevles have so much **** wrong with them you'll waste a year of your life pointing them out.

Sorry for the rant, I just really feel what Back is going through. I've given up on Black Women. And they say I shouldn't say "all black women" but if 97% of them are doing the crap that's a rough estimate of ALL. While black women sit around and ***** and tear down Black Men (and for what? the only ****ing black men they **** are gangstas, but Hill Harper types need to get torn down after getting rejected by the black girl but her stupid ass getting walked on by Key-low gangsta), they need to sit around and talk sense into their damn selves. Look at it like this, if black women would start to make songs about Hll Harper type of dudes and actively choose those guys, MOST little black boys wouldn't want to be ****ing Lil Wayne.

Message I understand where your coming from, I've been there, I AM there. I think a lot of hispanic women are on that too though. But not nearly as many as black women. It's because of our messed up generation. "The 106th & Park Crowd"...

It sucks too because I'm going to an HBCU now. So I gotta find a way to make it work without "dumbing myself down". So far I haven't had much luck. These broads are looking for LiL Wayne clones...

 

[f283000]

I found a post by a woman on a blog. This is some of the most honest "what do women want" advice I have ever read from a woman. Women advice to men on dating is mostly crap but I found this one to be actually truthful.

I’m female, but not in denial about what works for me. For a guy to get my attention, he’s got to have a fair amount of “**** the world” attitude, and preferably physically strong enough to back it up. I don’t want a guy I can beat up unless he’s disabled. There’s no excuse for a guy not to be taking care of himself, just like there’s no excuse for a woman.

Instead of being caring and sociably responsible you need a fair amount of "f the world attitude." The rest about being strong is a fact to us all.

Your level of rudeness should of course be tailored to your social setting. You don’t want to become even more of a cop magnet. However, you should shake off the shackles of false humility. Sometimes when you’re big and strong, and basically physically superior to the people around you in crucial ways, they try to get you to pretend as if you aren’t what you are.

This is a lie, and makes you creepy rather than seeming more civil or polite. Be real. You don’t have to reduce yourself to try to make other people feel better. If they’re uncomfortable because you’re bigger and stronger than them, so be it. They’ll get over it or get away. Never slouch to make others look taller or play dumb to make others feel smarter. It doesn’t make them respect you…and that goes for men and for women.

Another gem. One would think that women want guys with humility but this woman is telling us the opposite. One would think women would like a guy that would try to make others feel better and more confortable but no! basically she is saying guys should remain alpha all the time and put themselves above others whether it makes others unconfortable or not. This is totally the opposite of a "service to others" mentality of a spiritually developed person.

You should be scary to women. Every man should be scary to women. It’s the natural order of things. You’re mostly bigger and stronger than us, and can kick most of our asses if you wanted to. That you don’t is because of your mercy, not our power over you. It’s your *option* not to be a total ****, not your obligation.

Another gem! Waylon Jenning's has a song called "ladies love outlaws." I remember a story about a guy in jail that got on tv and had dozens of letters from women wanting to marry him! and this isn't a lone case jail birds are known to attract women. Is this logical? you would think women would stay away from such men! and you would also think women would stay away from jerks/bad boys/gang bangers/mobsters etc. Unfortunately the opposite is true they are attracted to them like knife to butter!

 

[backbreaker]

I don' think it's a considence most of the woman I have dated have been white. NOt becuase I'm more attracted to them then blck women, but tey are more attracted to me than black women if that makes any sense.

Oh I've dated black women, was engaged to one. lol, if some emember she hijacked my accoun here some years ago. good times.

I will say that thogh, dealing with black women, black women generally have their **** together and by **** ogether I mean, college degree, good job, realtivy healthy, no hard core drug use.. generally want a man of the same.

My mom was like that and no way in hell my mom would be attracted to lil wayne. my mom is attracted to men who are like her, and my mom is an extremely attractive woman from what I hear.

Like yesterday I was going to subway and my GF just decided she wanted to drive along with me for ****s and giggles. I was listening to a jazz CD in my car.

I personally know there are few things my GF hates more than jazz. But, she loves the fact that I am open minded enough to LOVE jazz and not be a cookie cutter, so she will listen to it.

I've dated women before, well not date but went out with women in the past who would think jazz is a turn of becuase nice guys liste to jazz.


Don't confuse what being nice and being a chump is.

Being a Chump is not dressing in polo shorts and polo shirts with boat shoes.

Being a chump is not saying yes sir no sir when speaking to your elders

Being a chump is not workng your ass off at work so you don't have to steal ****

Being a Chmp is not wearin a belt.

Being a Chump is not being able to put together a complete sentence

Beig a Chump is not restraining yourself from losing your becuase someone pissed you off

Being A Chump is not not grabbing someone's ass within 20 mintues of meeting them

Being a Chump is not sucking becase yo don't have enough tattoos

Being a Chump is not sucking becuase you have do not have a FED number (been to federal prison). I've actually had a woman.. recently..tell me she won't date a guy that does not have a FED number. you can't make this **** up.


if a woman thinks those things are being a chump, than IT'S HER FAULT. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH ME BECUASE I DON'T LIVE UP O HER THUG LIFE ASS STANDARDS.

Once i realized that my self esteem in myself skyrockted.



intsead of gttng rilled up in these women let society and commen sense weed them out for you.




BTW who is Hill harper?

 

[Sandow]

Girls don't know their own ass from their elbow. They will gee hurt over and over again and then cry about how all guys are jerks, yet she still picks the bad boy.

Anyways, if there's anything to get out of this thread, is that it will never hurt being a jerk/badboy. So you might as well be one, be an ass and give em what they subconciously want.