“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Back in the game -- my approach journal.

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On Monday when school's back up I'm going to start approaching again and I'll record my approaches in here. My primary goal: either get laid by the end of this year or get laid early next year. I don't want to be your cat "who never got laid in High School" nah, that's too typical. I want to be able to honestly say that "I got laid in High School". I know I aint too good with girls right now, and that's why I'm doing this. I'm fine with saying hi to a girl and I'm alright with talking to girls when they approach me, but what I really want to improve with this is my skills with approaching women that I don't know [well] and having conversations with them. I've already got all the advice I need and now I'm going to go out there and use it.
 
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Try this; go into everyone of your classes and have one girl in each that you flirt with, not for getting laid but for practice it helps alot, plus it makes class more fun and you look forward to going.
 

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CalmCoolAndConfident said:
Try this; go into everyone of your classes and have one girl in each that you flirt with, not for getting laid but for practice it helps alot, plus it makes class more fun and you look forward to going.
Good advice, but unfortunately of the few girls that are in my classes, none of them are really attractive. There are hot girls in this school, and hot girls in this grade, unfortunately I just don't have class with any of them. Well, actually, there are a few hot girls in band, so I could use your advice for just that one class. But I do most of my sarging at lunch, and after school.
 
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Anyway, for today's entry, I finally worked up the courage to approach a group of girls, and it honestly didn't go so bad. It was a pretty long convo, so I'm just going to summarize it.
[I went up to their table and sat down]
Me: Hey, hey did you guys party over the weekend?

Both of them said they partied.

Me: Where did you party?

Girl 2: California.

Me: Ah. Yeah, I couldn't really do anything because I had this I had to do.

Girl 2: Really, where do you work?

Me: It's actually not a job, but I do this program.

Girl 2: Oh, really, what do you do in the program?

Me: Oh, I just program things.
I don't really remember the word by word conversation that well, but I remember she asked how old I was, and we talked about that, and I also remember that we talked about sports, and she told me she played volleyball, I also remember she asked my name. It started out with me talking to the group, but it eventually just got to the point where I was having a convo with only one of the girls at the table. After that, the girls started talking again and I just sort of listened, this other dude came over who the girls know, and they introduced me to him, dude said he knew me from track. Later after that though, I was just quite while everyone else sort of talked, towards the end, I asked the girl what kind of music she likes, and she said "Anything", I said "So you would like jazz? Cause I was wondering if you would want to come to my concert", she said "When is it?", I said "The 17th of April", then she said "I don't know, I might be out of town". Can't exactly remember how we got to the subject, but she told she had a boyfriend.

Still dude, even though I was kind of nervous, it went much better than I expected.

Yes, this is Viper, the dude you thought would never have the balls to approach.
 

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Good work man, if that is actually you.

Me: Ah. Yeah, I couldn't really do anything because I had this I had to do.

Girl 2: Really, where do you work?

Me: It's actually not a job, but I do this program.

Girl 2: Oh, really, what do you do in the program?

Me: Oh, I just program things.
Notice how they started to control the conversation? You want to keep the focus on them. Be interested in what she said. She mentioned California, that's an open door right there. Good job on approaching, now conversation is the next step.

Perhaps something like:

Me: Hey, hey did you guys party over the weekend? [good, control of convo]

Both of them said they partied.

Me: Where did you party? [still good, control of convo]

Girl 2: California. [opened a door for you]

Me: Ah. Yeah, I couldn't really do anything because I had this I had to do. [you started talking about yourself, nooooot so good]

Girl 2: Really, where do you work? [when they ask you a question, guage their interest by facial expression/voice tone, see if its just her filling an awkward moment in the convo, or genuine interest]

Me: It's actually not a job, but I do this program [good you kept it short]

Girl 2: Oh, really, what do you do in the program? [again, guage interest..if there isn't much, ignore the question and ask one of your own]

Me: Oh, I just program things.
[again, good! kept it short]

Keep the focus on her...Instead, you probably could have ignored her and asked her about california. People love talking about themselves. Also, in a 2set, engage both(eye contact, smile, attention)) or else you could get ****blocked.

good work though!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Yep, this is Viper. So basically next time I approach I should talk less about myself and more about her. I did kind of only pay attention to one of the girls, rather than all 3.
 

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ElStud said:
Yep, this is Viper. So basically next time I approach I should talk less about myself and more about her. I did kind of only pay attention to one of the girls, rather than all 3.
Pay attention to everyone but your target and then after you won over all potential threats it will be a lot easier to isolate and attract her from there.
 

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limerick said:
Pay attention to everyone but your target and then after you won over all potential threats it will be a lot easier to isolate and attract her from there.
Well, really, in this situation I didn't have a "particular" target, but tommorow I'm planning to approach this girl named Marissa who I'm very attracted to, so I'll use it for that.
 

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you may want to watch some of mystery's video's or read his books on group theory before approaching to ensure better success.
 

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limerick said:
you may want to watch some of mystery's video's or read his books on group theory before approaching to ensure better success.
I'll definitely have to check out this mystery guy, infact I remember seeing some of his videos on Youtube a while ago.

So, do you think I should sit with these girls again at lunch tommorow or approach another group?
 

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yep. group theory is perfect for this situation
 

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Hmm, can't seem to find the group theory video anywhere, oh well. So like I asked before, should I go further with these girls?
 

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Go for a different group 100%.

It teaches your psyche that you aren't attached to these girls already. Also, if they see you approach a different group, they'll realize they have to do more(show more attraction) to win you over.

Going back to the other group is fine, just don't make it habitual... Be mysterious, ya know?

Keep in mind it also depends what these girls are like.. like are they the popular kids(high self esteem) or not so popular kids(low self esteem)...The low self esteem ones would love you to hang out with them again, but the popular kids would see that as a sign of dependance(weakness). You have to gauge the situation and determine how best to tailor your behavior toward them.

Remember always, girls fvck guys, not friends.
 

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Thanks, that's good advice dude. I got to get out of my comfort zone with openers though .Only thing I can think of to open with right now is Spring Break. I'd talk about the weather but I fear that wouldn't go anywhere.
 

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Approached again, oh god was that awful. I sit down, ask the girls how it's going, immediately one of the girls shows disinterest and gets back to what she was doing before. Alright, but I didn't quit, I asked one of the girls what book she was reading, she said the book name, I asked what it was about, she said "rivers", I said "Doesn't look very interesting" she said "yeah" and moved on, she definitely had no interest whatsoever. I tried to get another conversation going but that faultered. But hey, I had the balls to go up there, that's one positive thing. I'm not sure if I messed up or if the girls just weren't interested.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Wow, that was unexpected! A bad approach followed by an awesome approach. So there's this group of girls I've been wanting to talk to for some time, and I finally approached them, took a while to get the balls to do, but I approached them. I'll say what I remembered:
- I sat down, said "Why aren't you guys outside, it's a nice day!".
- One said "It's cold outside".
- Then I asked them "So, did you guys party over the weekend?"
- They said "Yeah, we partied".
- I said "Really where?"
- One girl said something I couldn't understand, one said Detroit, another said New York.
- They told me their names.
- This one chicks name was Agnes, and I told it was weird name, and she was flustered.

I'm kind of in a rush right now, so I'll update you guys more later.

Still dude, that was a good approach, I wasn't even really nervous around them, despite the fact that they were all hot.
 

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Update to that approach:
Alright, so at lunch today, I approached these 4 chicks who I've been wanting to approach, but never had the balls to approach before. Took me a while to get the balls to do it, but I did. My worry is that I'm afraid the girls might of just been being nice to me, because they wanted me to leave. Only 3 of the chicks were really active in the conversation, the 4th chick was working on homework.
- I sat down, said "Why aren't you guys outside, it's a nice day!".
- One chick said, "it's cold outside".
- After a little more conversation, I asked "So did you guys party over the weekend".
- They said "Yeah, we partied".
- I said "really where?"
- One said "Detroit", the other said "New York".

After that I don't really remember stuff in order, so I'm just going to post some things I remember:
- After a while one girl said "Who are you?" and one of the chicks, maybe it was her, asked the other girls if they knew me. I said I was just guy who wanted to get to know them. I'm not sure to think of this as a bad sign or a good sign.
- When one chick told me her name was "Agnes", I said "That's a weird name" and didn't really pay attention to how she took it.
- Asked the girl if they knew our pianist in Jazz Band, one girl told the other girl something like "You know him".
- I asked them if they liked music at all and they said "No, we don't like music" in a kind of joking tone.
- At the end, I asked the 4th girl, who wasn't really in the conversation what she was working on. Can't remember what she said after that, then somewhere along the way, I asked her what math class she was in, and she said "Geometry", I said "I'm in Geometry too". After that, I could not think of anythnig else to talk about, so I left.

The girls seemed to give positive signs, but I can't help thinking they were just being nice so I would leave. Also, often times in the conversation I felt like I was running out of things to talk about. Eventually, I couldn't think of anything to talk about, said "See you guys later" and left. I don't really know what to think, for all I know the girls could've been showing fake interest. I really don't know what to think.
 

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Sorry this hasn't been updated in a while, I'll most likely update tommorow. I been talking about wanting to get with this Marissa girl for a while, and I'm going to approach her tommorow, maybe even try to get her number. Worst she can say is no. I don't even care if her friend and that Allen dude she always hangs out with is there, I gotta to see if she's interested.
 
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