"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Azrael's 100 approaches. No matter what!

azrael

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O.K guys, so I've been following some approach journals like macallik's and lust's and decided (got the balls) to commit myself to approach 100 women that i would hook up with.

Rules:

- You get a count by every approach you make. Eg. if you approach a 3-set and number close them all, you only get 1 approach count.

- If you happen to see someone you approached a while back, and re-approach, it does not count.

- Approaches should be with someone you haven't spoken to, not completely cold approaches. Eg. New girl at work/school haven't spoken to her, open her, that's fine.

- Approaching guys does not count.

- Stupid approaches that build no attraction does not count. Eg:

Going out to the beach and saying Hi to everyone you see

- Obviously, don't make up fake approaches.

Tips/Ideas/Suggestions

- Try to remember everything you said, so everyone else can pick it apart and give you advice.


- Don't f*cking give up! No matter how bad you get shot down.

Again, i encourage you to do this challenge too.


O.k so here we go... October 13 2008
Ap # 1 hb 7.0 at a bus i live in a third world country so bear with me the bus fare is 20 p. and she was going to pay with 500 p. so i said to her criminal. You are going to pay with that. she reply that she could not change it . I tease her a little bit more then i stop 'cuz i wasn't feeling anything for her. After a while she ask me the time i told it to her and resume talking to her she told me she hit her head when she entered the bus and i tell her bout a time when something similar to that happens to me but she was not even looking at me so i stop talking to her and continue to listen to avenged sevenfold in my phone.

Ap # 2 hb 7.5 This happens a couple of minutes after ap # 1. I got to college i was there to pay tuition there was no one in line i pay but i needed to wait for the head of the department 'cuz she has to put her signature in the papers. Anyhow it starts raining and this girl walk in and starts reading something in a wall it was in French so i open her with do you understand what that says she reply not really but she could pick up what it was about
me: reaally what does that says?
she: It's about a meeting for haitians to talk to them about their passport and visa
me: yeah !! you could go and live there(to haiti)
she:nah ! im perfectly fine here
After a while like a minute
me: where are you heading now?
she: im going to grab something to eat at a cafeteria but i dont want to get wet
me:where is that cafeteria ?
she: it's two corners from here... it's cold (it was raining and she got Goose bumps)
me: you should try rubbing .like this ( i rub her arms and forearms:cool: ) even doe it did not go away we talk a little bit more bout what she was going to order and stuff then it stop raining and i tell her you should go now ...:kick: ahhh

I should have ask her at least her name and try to number close

after that the head of the department came and sign the papers and i leave to catch a bus home OHHH when i turn around and look at the cashier she was looking at me and smiling:cool: she was there listening to my convo the whole time

Ap # 3 hb 7.0 beautiful lips emly
she took out and English book from her bag (i live in a Spanish speaking country)
me: what level is that book for(assuming it was a book use in college but she is taking and intensive english course)
she:im in level 6
me: o.k
I kinda chicken out and just sat there after a while we both started talking at the same time
she: yes tell me
i ask her to open the book she has it in a page with a list of qualities that women look in a man and ask her witch ones of those qualities she agree with. She basically agree with all the qualities and then ask me the same question. I answered her and after that we where talking bout random sh*t after a while she ask me my name and tell me hers also the area she lives in and more stuffs.

I have the headphone cord around my neck and my w810 in my hand the whole time so she ask me what was i listening to so i gave her the head phones and she listen to a7x and some linkin park track.

At the end of the convo she ask me what Are good ways for her to improve her english and i tell her that all she needed to do is speak with people that speak english like mormons and that i have a friend(a girl) that when to talk to them and that she improve her english that way (witch is true).

But fvk i should have try and # close all i needed to say was let's give me your # so we can continue practicing our english skills

So i have 3 approaches 97 to go.. ill try and make at least 3 approaches a week
If i find a girl interesting i have no problem taking to them. now the issue is to try to # close them ..uhh moat of the time i use situational openers but i realize that i can not way for a good situation to arise. ill need to just open them up with anything
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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For the first approach she sounded interested man. She reinitiated conversation by asking for the time which girls tend to do as just an excuse to restart a convo. You said you weren't really interested so it is whatever tho.

The last girl in the last approach seemed interested as well. When a chick as for your name, its all systems go man. If she was looking to get better @ her speaking the langauge foreign to her, I would have told her to memorize my phone number in english or something, lol.

good luck man. I'll drop some feedback on your journal where i think i can help you out and you can do the same on mines. Pce
 

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For the first approach...Avenged Sevenfold is pretty good music...but you might of had some interest from her
 

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Ap # 5 hb 6.5 Thursday 22 10 2008 After a test results were given i ask this girl what was her score (she fails) i got a 25/25 :rockon: anyway we chatted for a while and even doe i don't consider i was particularly funny she was touching me whole time you know laughing and slyly pushing me :up: later on i found out she has a BF so that was that.

Ap # 6 hb 6.5 saturday 25 10 2008 i arrive to the classroom (it was almost empty) only 3 people in there so i sat next to this girl (i forgot her name)
me : I was kinda lost and almost enter another classroom
she: yeah! i also get kinda lost in my way here.
me:so where are the other people
she: dunno, maybe they got wasted last night (on alcohol)
me: huh!!
she: thats the reason why i did not came last Saturday, i was at "antony santo's show"
me:...(i kept looking at her but say nothin'
she: you know at eagle
me: Yeah ! i know. Were you inside or on the street
she told me that she was on the street and that she lives near that place and a lot other **** that i can not really remember then the teacher came and told the class to form groups (not everyone has the book) she ask me in a kinda shy way may i join you. i reply of course smiling. there were not much talking after and a couple of minutes later came...

Ap # 3 hb 7.5 D.ana (beautiful like honey colored eyes) shes ap #3 cuz i talk to her last class but only for a short period of time.

So after she entered the room she sat at my right and one row behind me i look at her and wink (i love to wink. i even wink a friend of mines one(a boy) cuz he got all nervous i crack every time ).
after the class finish outside campus she was walking in from of me
me: are you crossing the brigde?
she: yeah!!

so i ask her a couple of questions like what is your mayor and **** like that then she started to complain bout how sunny and hot it was. I tell her it is always sunny and hot.
she: i know maybe i was born in the wrong country

i tell her that people need to take at least 20 minutes of sun a day(maybe its less)
because in that way the body synthesizes vitamin d. that why theres no need to buy it unless you can not take sun or live in a place with almost no sun light( i know a lot of useless sh*it ).:D

then she ask me a lot of questions regarding where did i learn english and it there they teach well and stuffs like that.

when we were about to part ways i told her my name and ask her hers(i already knew it i just wanted to hear it from her).she told me her name and then says talk to you next Saturday


things to work on..

* if i continue to only make 3 ap per week this is going to take me around 9 months(i need to approach more

*for some reason i did not like to introduce myself ( i dont know why i used to dislike it but it is kinda silly)

*friggin # closed





i did not want to make a thread about this so im gonna put it in here

there is this girl i work with...I am kinda mean to her not on purpose(but i can be an a$$ from time to time).
anyway the only good thing i do to her is touching her some times i caress her hands or hair or whatever and the other times i just group her and kiss her neck( most of the woman i know get turn on by touching the hair in the back of the neck )

i mean if she gets close to me i'll touch her she knows this for a fact (she likes it).
But the thing is she complains bout me not caring for her , not calling her and being mean to her and despite all this she basically ask me to kiss her.

one day i told her. U know am gonna kiss you(i did not plan on doing it i was just messing with her) she reply if you do i'll smack you. i tell her it may be worth it.

So a few days later she ask me so when are you gonna kiss me? :confused: I did not expect it so i tell her there are always people round us
when we were alone in the back of the store i went for it but she refused cuz our boss was around(i'm an idiot i know)

i try it againg in similar circumstances but she refused again(go figure)

2 days later she told me i am going to kiss you today ( at the end of the shift) i knew it was not a good idea so i stay away from her when we came out(our boss was around and we were leaving with him)that was more a come on you idiot than anything else.

in the morning we are waiting to enter to the store (we got the morning shift) and there i finally kiss her

a couple of days later i try it in the back of the store she kinda hesitated but this time she did not refused
since that happens we have been making out every time we work together in a shift and she has initiated half of the time.

Note she is a 6.5 with her share of male attention there is this guy who is the opposite from me he calls her buy her ice cream and text a lot.
He is 18 and i am 22 even doe if you ask anybody that does not know is gonna say that i am 18 or 19 i look kinda young


Fvk i get sick of her a couple of days ago (shes been doing sh*t that i dont like) like asking me to buy her stuffs life lingerie in from of other co workers i tell her i dont buy women stuffs i was kinda ****y that day and tell her that women should buy me stuffs i tell her that there are 2 women for every guy and that a part of the guys are gay and the other part ugly(so im kind of a gift from heaven:crackup:

i told her this like i mean it.

A couple of days ago i ask her if i am mean and i dont care bout you why do you want to be with me and she reply that she was gonna change me:rock:

she wants me to f*k her but i haven't done it because i am an wuss and there have been some schedule issues and she has an spinal condition.

yesterday night we kiss again but when we were in our way home (in our boss's car)
she ask me for money to go to the salon(i f*cking hate people asking me money)
i tell her i told you i dont give money she reply i know i was checking if you has change.

I told her i will never change, after this i started to doubt if i will ever f*k her cuz im thinking that she will want some sort of gifts after we do it.

Note: In my country one of the rules is that in order for you to be with a "woman" you need to pay her stuffs like the salon or clothes thats the way almost every body plays the game sh*t i have listen to "woman" ask guys *cough chumps *cough to buy her baby's milk and they do it.
 

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my 1st date

i ve been a while without any approaches but yesterday i got my 1st date with the girl i used to work with (i got transfered).
i took her to the movies..ok .. so when i meet her there she was acting kinda weird and keeping her distance i tried holding her hand but she did not held mine and even though i was walking slower than i normally do she kept walking behind me...(WTF?) i thought this was going to blow.

so we enter the cinema and she keep walking behind me i buy the tickets and ask her if she wants anything for the candy bar, she says she only wanted a soda and i wanted hersheys white chocolate(i dont like to eat pop corn when i can not clean my mouth afterwards).

Now we are sitting and the movie is about to start i look at her and she seems kinda mad(maybe because i didnt saw her when i 1st arrive i was walking to a pay phone to call her and then i saw a perfume that catch my attention).

Anyway i put my arm around her and she gets closer to me (i guess i just needed to warm her up..in more than one way:D )

after a while she looks at me and smile and i think is now is the time and go for the kiss(i kiss her before so no biggy) and everything was cool after that we kiss a couple of other times and the hand of the arm i have around her she had it close to her face and kiss it and bite it from time to time..

ohh i almost forget i get to do something i wanted to do for a long time witch is to bite a woman lips while kising her you (know the lower one)

When we get out of the theater we were holding hand and hugging while walking so base on my perception i think it wen well
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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update on girl from 1st date

after the date on Thursday . i did not contact her until monday ( not 'cuz head games but 'cuz i did not feel like callin' if i was not going to set up a date).
o.k so i tried to reach 'bout 7pm at home but she was not there and then i tried her cell 'round 9 pm but i could not reach her. So i stop trying and she send me a message around 10.30 pm : she: what did i did so wrong that you haven't try to contact me for 4 days

i call her cell again and now she pick up.(my cell was set in hide my # mode so she did not knew i was calling her).

we talk for a while and i tell her i really care for her (i mean it). aahh i am kinda aloof and i have a little bit of problem expressing feelings.

we talk for about 40 minutes ( i know, i know) but when i tried to end the convo she get all are you tired of talking to me already or dont you have anything else to say.

monday 24 11
she calls me around 6.00 pm i have something to do so i tell her ill call her round 7.00(but we end up talking around 10.30)


she basically wanted to know what are we and why i havent ask her to be my girlfriend
i told her that we are not kids anymore and that noone ask that kinda question that it is just something that happens and develop over time.

she does not believe me .

me :what do you want me to ask you?(i am playing dumb)
she: do you want to be my girlfrie...
me:Yes!
she:you are not a girl
me : i know
she:eek:k do you want to be my boyfrie..
me:Yes!

so basically i have a "girlfriend" now or something:D

oh the reason of this post..
she told she she was horny(i was to far away from her house and it was late so there is nothin i can do. fro know)

she also told me that when we kiss she also get horny and then she gotta get home and can not "release". she said that she did not masturbate and that the times she had try it she feels no pleasure(but she has when her previous BF has touch her and been with her).

So we set up a date next week (a f*ck date) well so ill put and update to that next week.

i believe the all BF thing is for her not to feel sluty what do you guys thing also this is going to be my 1st time so any pointers
 

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Hey bud,

I'm not sure if this is too late or not, but take your time when you're doing it first time. Make sure to get her worked up and not just immediately go for it. Also, do not solely concentrate just on that, that can put too much pressure on you. Just go in with the mindset that you'll have fun.

some tips:

PLEASE use a condom and protect your self (and her).
-I would not TALK about it too much since you don't want to put any unreasonable expectations on the event and scare her off.
-Spend a lot of time caressing other parts of her body before you get to the tits and the p***y. This will build anticipation.
-Do not let small setbacks discourage you. In other words, if she stops you at a certain time, simply back off for a little bit, and just make out, and then when you get her worked up start advancing again.
-Do not talk much about it afterwords. Don't completely ignore her, just act casual and don't talk about "what just happened" too much. Act as if everything is normal (which, it really is :).
-If you for whatever reason are nervous and can't get hard, go down on her. Take your time as you lick her p***y and hopefully this will get you hard, as you can also jerk your self hard while doing this.
-You can also ask her to "give it a little kiss" (meaning your penis), and then when she does that, tell her "Oh, I know you can do better than that". This should do the trick and get you hard.
- When you feel like you're about to finish, slow down. You don't wanna bust off too quick. Your goal is to give HER an orgasm. This is what will keep her around for more later, and also put in a good word for you if the subject ever comes up with the other girls :).
 

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thanks

sexysuave said:
Hey bud,

I'm not sure if this is too late or not, but take your time when you're doing it first time. Make sure to get her worked up and not just immediately go for it. Also, do not solely concentrate just on that, that can put too much pressure on you. Just go in with the mindset that you'll have fun.

some tips:

PLEASE use a condom and protect your self (and her).
-I would not TALK about it too much since you don't want to put any unreasonable expectations on the event and scare her off.
-Spend a lot of time caressing other parts of her body before you get to the tits and the p***y. This will build anticipation.
-Do not let small setbacks discourage you. In other words, if she stops you at a certain time, simply back off for a little bit, and just make out, and then when you get her worked up start advancing again.
-Do not talk much about it afterwords. Don't completely ignore her, just act casual and don't talk about "what just happened" too much. Act as if everything is normal (which, it really is :).
-If you for whatever reason are nervous and can't get hard, go down on her. Take your time as you lick her p***y and hopefully this will get you hard, as you can also jerk your self hard while doing this.
-You can also ask her to "give it a little kiss" (meaning your penis), and then when she does that, tell her "Oh, I know you can do better than that". This should do the trick and get you hard.
- When you feel like you're about to finish, slow down. You don't wanna bust off too quick. Your goal is to give HER an orgasm. This is what will keep her around for more later, and also put in a good word for you if the subject ever comes up with the other girls :).
thanks man protection was not a problem i pick up some rubbers a couple of days ago.
Anyway i'll try to remember some of this tips for when the occasion arrives
 

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now to the update(sort of)

i was reluctant to post about this but here it goes...

so here is what happens with the girl i was suppose to "see"
i call her on Monday DEC 1st to see if we could "hang out" but she has work all day on Sunday and she was tired (i has work the A and B shift and that is tiresome so we arrange a rendezvous for DEC 3 Wednesday at 6 .00 pm ).



wed 3 DEC.. i call her around 5.18pm cuz even though we arrange the place i did not told her which gate i was going to be(it was a mall on a corner with several entrances) she did not answered so i try again at 5.40 she did not answered but beep me a couple of minutes later(beep is to call someone and hang up right away so you dont loose the phone credits) and that person get a miss call) so i call her and ask her how far is she from here, and she told me she is not going to make it cuz she is on the 1st day of the flu(the 1st day is nasty).



i talk to her for a while(she ask me if i did call her yesterday..on Tuesday.. i did but the 1st time (around 6pm)the girl that pick up told me to call back in 5 min. and the 2nd time(around 9.00pm) i was told she was not there even thought my "girl" told me she was home the whole day.

Anyway i told her i would call her tomorrow (she was not home)....



I have some alone time and started thinking and i realize:



* she has not call me 1 single time since the time she ask me to be her GF...nor text me



* if it was only the flu and she knew the whole day she was not going to make it she should have call me and let me know.she has a lot of chances to do it(i would have call her if i was not going to make it)




anyway i call her Monday DEC 8 and we talk for a while we will not be able to get together until next week, so i told her to ask for Monday off. So we could get together...she says she would

note: i have learn something this past week and it is that sometimes when you call a girl home and she is not there, there are a lot of chances of she not getting the message of you calling.

ah Sunday 14 /DEC : i text her: (i almost got no credit)so tomorrow night at 6 p.m
she:no cuz i am in my monthly cycle(her period).
I call her knowing the call is gonna droop . i talk to her for like 30 secs. the call drops(she does not call me back_)

Monday 15: i call her around 9 pm and try to set up a get together even though i know there will be no pu55y.( according to her she got no day off this week and is working the night shift the whole week_(that sounds fishy) i talk to her for a while and make her laugh a few times. she told me the other line is ringing and is her bother who lives in the country i just say O.K and hang up......

I erase her number and will not contact her again unless she contact me...:rock:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i when clubbing

so last night 18/DEC/2008 Thursday i went to the club with some coworkers we were celebrating our "little angel" (is an anonymous gift swap thing) anyhow
We are like 7 boys and two/three girls(in the 1st club 3 and in the 2nd one 2).from the get go there are two guys all over the girl that do not work with us
(you know trying to be talking with her or dancing the whole time .

She was a cutie don't get me wrong but i was not displaying interest like they were

..O.k so after a while she gravitates towards me and is standing next to me with her legs between one of mine(i was sitting) and ask me so you don't dance?
me: No. a little ,but not to good

now we are in the 2nd club we all standing 'cuz there are no seats we are looking at each other and smiling and i ask her name and stuff. then i just let her be...
..she's like in a corner dancing a little ,one of the "two guys" ask her to dance .she refuses, (i am not a good dance but i am thinking what the f..) so i ask her to dance she, she did dance with me a couple of times and with the others guys.

one of my friends got her number:D he was not all over her either

Oh.. she was leaving and says good bye to the group .i kiss her on the cheek.she and my boss go out cuz he was taking her home(he did not seem interested maybe because everyone else was) but they came back(i don't know why) and she stay for a little longer


.now when she is leaving again .i kiss her cheek but in a more "sexy"? manner and the next day her sister told me that she told her "the skinny guy try to kiss me(on the mouth she meant).

i don't really think i was trying to do such a thing. I was kinda drunk but not enough to do foolish things , i know this because i remember everything i did after that. But if i did try and make a fool out of myself i am going to feel kind of cr4ppy :kick:

anyway i enjoy going to the club and seeing 1st hand that being all over a girl is a mayor turn down anyhow i am marking this as ap # 7 HB 7.5
[/B] :rockon: :rock: :D
i am looking foward to next semester to start :rockon: :rock: :D
 

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went clubbing again

so i when clubbing again with some coworkers, now things are a little more even 4 girls 5 guys (including me).

This time i felt beer kinda weird so i did not drink a lot...
it was at 1 am so it is DEC 31 2008
club #1. 1AM they were playing bachata and i can not dance that so i was sitting and watching how the girls react to guys approaches (to dance i mean). the girls from the previous report was there as well but i did not feel like approaching her.So i am eying one of the 2 remaining(that i think are single girls)

she gets up and is going to dance she wants to dance with me but i refuse as i state before i can not dance bachata
oh well a merengue starts playing and i ask her to dance (i think i can dance merengue)

she refuses because i refuse earlier.O.K so i dance with the girl that has a boyfriend

moving forward into the night one of the guys is pestering the girl i was eying. so she dance with him but she refuses he should have try at least 10 ****ing times so i ask him "are ya giving up? (meaning shes not interested in you.so let me approach her) he answered no and then went to the bathroom and when he came continued in trying to dance with her and stuff
(i haven't said anything about the remaining girl cuz she was sitting there the whole time and refuses to dance with all of them(i did not ask her thought)

we need a change of venues...

outside the club trying to figure out were to go next...

she kinda moving like dancing on her own..
me: so you feel like dancing now huh?
she:well i try to dance with you and you refuse
me:OK the next place we go ,ill dance anything with ya!!

we send the boring girl home and went to club 2(the girls arrive the rendezvous place by cab so now we are 8 people and one car)

they decided to all go in one car so two boys get to carry a girl in the legs(i get one and the guy that number close from the previous post get the other)

as expected some jokes bout "things" getting hard...

so now it is like 4 AM we get to the second cliub but the place is kinda dead and they sell beer too expensive. But as i promise i dance with "my girl"(lucky for me it was merengue)

we go to some other place but after 6 large beer(to the whole group) We realize they are almost closing so we call it a night..


now to the good stuff

"my girl" lives close to me and no one else does so my boss suggests we share a cab and he will take the others to their houses(thank you)..

we sat in the back sit but she went all the way to the other side so i sat next to the door(after a little bit she moves closer..

me:so did you have fun hanging with us?
she:Yeah!!! and some other stuffs that i can not remember then we talk bout how difficult it will be to get up in the morning and go to work(i need to be there at 9 AM)

me:so you never told me your name.
she: yes i did. it was the first thing i did when 1st meeting you
me:OK maybe i did not hear it(she told it to me but i forget it right away

me: so will i ever see you again?
she: yeah!! i always hang out with my cousin ,well not always cuz we live far apart
me: (reaching out for my phone) :cool: Give me your number in case anything came up. she ask me to hand it to her so she can put it

****she was constantly combing her hair with her hand so i ask her bout it and try to run my hand throuw her hair (it did not go as well as expected)

she remember my name and was using it a lot..when we get to her house i get a kiss on the cheek (i don't think i could have kiss her in the mouth so i did not even try)

i wait until she open the lock and enter and close it behind her before re entering the cab
me:bye
she:bye love(women here said that all the time to alot of people)

So...
1st number close after i started this series of post..

i am thinking bout hitting her up later in the afternoon around 5 or 6 pm..and try and built a little bit of rapport before even trying to set an one on one get together

What do you guys think?

Now i get home around 5 30 AM and could not fall sleep now it is 8 AM and i need to get ready to get to work see ya
 

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update

i actually end up calling her on Saturday 3rd Jan 2 pm
i m going to call her D for the sake of this post

me:hi.may i speak with D.?
she: this is her
me: hi this is azrael
she: hi how are you?
me: so so. how about you?
she: i m good

after that i ask her what did she did on DEC 31
she reply she went out with the girls and that she was out until 6 or 7 am

i told her i was in a dinner/family reunion thing and that i went to bed at 2am

she: when you are in those type of stuffs you go to bed early

a pause

she: are you at work now?
me: no but i gotta be there by 3 pm
me: listen i am going to the movies on monday do you want to come with me?

she:yes call me on Monday and ill meet you there

me: O K i always go to yxz mall

she: better
me: bye

I forgot Monday was"dia de reyes" and ill be working the whole day
So i call her on Monday and re schedule

me: D?
she:yes?
me:hi how are you?
she: good
me: when i 1st called you i did not know today was "dia de reyes" and ill be working the whole day
she:damn(meaning that sucks)
me:yes(i know)
she: OK other day then
me:how about tomorrow?
she: OK
me:meet me at 615 in front of zxczx mall
she:OK
me:bye then
she:bye

Tuesday 6th Jan 09

I arrived at the mall at 6:20pm i walk around and did not saw her so i went to the restroom then went back to the entrance and sat down in a bench at 6:30 i call her

me:were are you?
she: oh!! are you there i just got home from work.I totally forgot.Can i still make it?
me:yes .if you want to

she: OK give 30 min.


6:45 she called and told me she was almost here(i told her i was near the movie theater)
10 min. later she called me and told me she was standing in front of the box office so i walk there without hanging up the phone and met her.

My original plan was to watch body of lies buy by know it has already started. I have already seen quantum so the only good option was twilight. she wanted to watch a local movie and i have nix feelings bout twilight so i say ok.

The movie started at 7:20 so i have time to get to know her a lil bit better

i bought pop corn and soda and a chocolate bar later i try to give chocolate to her but she said she has and allergy thing and she could not eat chocolate

when we were watching the movie i put my arm around her(she did not react)

in the middle of the movie she ask me if i was going to work tomorrow which i reply that i did not know cuz there was a gut that was gonna quit so i was not sure

when the movie ended we were walking to get out of the mall and talking bout "movie going stuff"

when she realize i was gonna cross the street with her..
she:do you need to cross the street to get home?
me: no i m gonna walk you home

She did not wanted me to walk her all the way just half way
So we are walking and she said something i could not understand. So i stop 'cuz i thing this is as far as she want me to walk her.

she:what's wrong?
me: nothing i thought this was as far as you wanted me to walk you. and then i started walking again.

we reach the 3 block and she says to me : I live right after that corner
we stop walking i gave her a kiss on the cheek.

When she was leaving: thank you azrael. ehh I ll call you.
then i head back and cross the street and went home
 
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ap # 9 she talks to me

*disclaimer: almost all of my interactions are in Spanish and i translate them.*

i was in line to pay college she started talking to me about college stuff. she is suppose to make two lines one to pay and another one to fix her schedule.

i pay and leave and catch a bus home. like two minutes after she came in the bus and sat next to me.I ask her why was she leaving and she told me she has to come back again tomorrow to fix her schedule.

++++This was an 1 hour trip home so i don't remember all the stuffs we talk about( there were pauses i did not talk to her for an hour)

+++we talk about catching the wrong bus (i do that every now and then..i also have fallen asleep and miss my stop but i did not talk to her about that)

me starting on a subject

me: (*touching her nails*) i thought when women put acrylic nails they painted them(i don't think she understood what i say because she reply with..)

she: oh those are not my real nails (and show me the real ones under the acrylic)

me: they are quite long

she: yeah! but they'll break when i remove the acrylic ones

me: does it hurt?

she: yes. Most people think they are real.(and she look at me and smile while pretending to hide them.) don't they look real?

me: (while looking away and them looking at her with a smile in my face) Nouu(she stars laughing)


she starting a subject

she: oh!! That poor baby is gonna asphyxiated there(i look back and there is a kid maybe 6 or 7 yo. sitting in the corner next to a "big" old woman

me: oh! i thought you were talking about a baby(less that 2 yo)
I was walking home the other day and there was a pick up truck and from the back seat windows a baby jump and felt onto the floor. luckily there were no other vehicles behind the truck(this **** really happens but as i say it i was laughing++its kinda funny when you think about it)

she: (she starts laughing)oh my god are you serious!!?

me: (still laughing) yes it really happens but i think he was o.k

she:yes babies bounce!!

me: (wtf?) babies bounce??
she:yes babies bounce. I was drop several times when i was a baby (sounds like something i would say) (and as i didn't knew if she was kidding or not i just started laughing)

almost our whole interaction in the bus were having fun and laughing


**We reach our stop turns out she works near my house(i thought she lived around because i saw her in the bus i took to get to college)

we are walking and i am talking about being late for work but i am making fun of it

me: i am almost home bye(she walks a little bit and i am waiting to cross the street to get to my apartment)
she: (turns around) by the way my name is Jen.
me: Azrael (i actually said azrael)

today 12 Jan 2009 i went out to 3 department stores to see if i found a bed, and since i was out i was gonna try to talk to girls..

I went to 3 different places and this is weird but i did not see any girl maybe because it was 2 pm i don't know

* In the 1st one there was this dude that gave me a nasty look(I've never seen that mofo in my life) them i encounter him in the fitting area and he kept looking at me weird

* In the 2nd one i help a lady with a shopping car
* In the 3rd one i was with my mom. i guess today there was something weird about me because i was standing in line an this kid girl maybe 10 or 12 is staring at me so i wink at her(i wink at her) and she looks at me even weirder than she was looking at me before and walks away. I just started laughing
 

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i was going to another store to see if i can find and affordable nice looking bed and them i saw this hb 7.5 and i just thought i gotta approach !! i gotta approach. she was walking in front of me and i catch up with her but...

...i choke i cant believe it but i choke. My heart was beating fast and my hand started to shake and i was left in disbelieve for a good part of my day i was thinking to much about approaching and them i started thinking that most of the times on my good approaches i haven't really think at all. sometimes i just say the 1st thing that pops in my mind and everything just flow.

then i get to the mall i work at i got time so i go to another store i am walking and i see this girl,i try to talk to her a few months ago, i mostly remember her because she was wearing a blue outfit(blue blaze blue pants) and she is the only chic Ive seen wearing that outfit.

* *the time when i met her was in a store i was at the register and was gonna pay for some food and she only was gonna buy a deodorant or something in a can, and she wanted me to let her get in front of me i did not let her but try to talk to her but she was not receptive(oh well)* *

o.k back to the present ..
so i walk pass her and them she is walking like she is following me so i ask her
me: are you following me?
she: no. are you scare?
me: no just checking.hey did you used to work at zxy store?
she: yes ,a few months ago
me: because i was once there and(i told her about a girl that was trying to get ahead of me in the register)
she:that was me.how are you doing?
me: cool(i ask her a couple of questions(she is now working at the store i was heading)

silence....

she walks thought a door and i go to leave my backpack(i don't know if it is like this in the U.S but you can't not enter to most of the stores with a backpack or bag of others store)

i see her again
me: do you sell beds here?
she: like the ones you sleep in?
me: are there any other kind..:confused:
she: (points with her finger )that way
me: o.k and i go( she keeps on walking and them gets on a electric stairs)

then i saw her again but she was with someone who may or may not be her boss so i did not re engage her

them i was at work and at a point there was an mids 30's woman looking in my direction(i am in the kitchen and there is nothing interesting back there so she gotta be checking me out(she was with another girl)them they sat down at a table and her friend was looking at me but i could not smile on wink or anything.(she stops looking at me after a little bit) them a coworker came to the back and was like those women were looking at you didn't you notice i told him i did.

bottom line i miss some opportunities today because of over thinking and not living in the moment..
AGHH:box:
 

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I know i was not gonna contact the "girl i used to work with" but she got my new health care card and i needed it because the one i got with me is useless now..

..So i txt her asking about my card but she did not reply so i call her, she told me she still got it so i ask her to bring it down to her store and i will go and pick it(this was Tuesday 27/1/09)

Wednesday
I am at work(slow day) so the other people are taking about usual stuffs and then they reach to the"lets go out again subject". I am down for it but not really taking i am just listening...
..i go to the restroom and while i was there the girl that has gotten out with us tell them that i did get her cousin # and that i did when to date with her..

..when i get out of the restroom one of them gab me like menacing me.
me: whats wrong
guy1: you gotta tell us
me: tell you what?
guy1: so you did get one of the girls # and did tell no one. you were the only one that did it

NOTE:almost all of them have a girlfriend or some girl in rotation so they really don't lose nothing

me: :confused: am i supposed to tell?
guy1: hell yeah.So when did this happen?
i explain to him when and how did i did it, then he ask me about the date but i did not want to talk a lot about that (i was kinda dull during this date) but i let them know that we did not hook up or anything it was just a date and i was not seeing this girl anymore.

They ask me if i try to kiss her or anything (i did not) one of them say something that is golden even thought i know this. it is better when you hear something you think from someone else.guy2 : You should try to escalate, she went in a date with you so there's gotta be some attraction..

he: so when all this happen?
me: i ask her to go out in jan 5th but them i remember that i needed to work that day so i call her and change it to jan 6th
he: damn you are fast!
me: (i am cleaning something so i am not facing him i turn around and i see guy2. with a confused look in my face)are you supposed to wait longer to set up a get together?(i am fairly new to this dating stuffs so i don't really know)

**some guys and girls think i pull a lot because of the way i carry myself nothing is more distant to the truth(i never say i do and even when i try to tell them otherwise they don't believe me) this date with this girl just adds more to they thinking that way about me.

After that the one that ask me the questions starts making fun of the way i talk(my tone of voice) people has told me that my tone of voice is mean. but he is talking about that when i talk i use to command more than i ask for thing.
i like to think that i am direct,anyhow he keeps at it so i ask him how does he do it,he was using my words but a different tone(i am not looking forward to change my tone because i don't think it will stop me from getting what i want but i have manage to trim down the mean part.)

he let go of me and start picking other guy..
he: But the worst thing i have seen is guy 3 he call peter to ask him what time did they give recess at zxy school(guy 3 was gaming a girl in high school)i mean just call her and ask her what time is recess

another last joke at my expenses
he: well if that was azrael he would have said:are you in recess now
high school girl:no
azrael:you weren't you are at recess now(i command her to be on recess lol)
he said that not to me to but to guy2 but i hear him and istarted laughing

**later this day**

i go to campus, i still got time to eat something before calling her to see if she did bring my hhc(i don't want to go down there and that she has forgotten to bring it..

i buy a fruit salad plate and found myself a place to eat it next to a hb 7.0 i finish eating before i talk to her
she was filling and English work book so i got my opener ready
me: what level is that book for?
she level 5
me: level 5?oh what institute are you in?
she told me she goes to the same one i went to,we talk a little bit i did say something in English to her she said my English is very good i smile and thank her but i eject the convo and call the girl .she did gave me pieces of information witch i could have used to keep the convo going but i did not..oh well


i call the girl and she did bring it so i went down to the store..
i thought was gonna be mad at me for disappear like i did but she seems ok with it
she: you loose some weight
me: i stop eating(the mean tone)
she: sorry!!
me: NO! i have not been eating right(i did not mean to offend you)

i know the guy that is replacing me in that store so i am chatting him and she comes from the back with my card
she:you know he used to be my bf but he disappear from me when he got transferred
he:are you sure it was not the other way around?woman always say that(i only got the left ear bud on but i pretend i did not listen to it and try to leave a.s.a.p)
she ask me what time did my class start and i tell her so she knew i still got some spare time
me:i really got to get going bye and i wink at her

after i leave i call the store with my cell(she picks up)
me: well i did try to get to see you 3 times in a row and you always have and excuse
she: what 3 times?
me: and with the not calling you, you got my # you could have called me.What do you want me to do?to keep calling you to infinite? i did what i got to do,stop calling you and forget about you
she:said something i don't remember
me: ok you got my # right if you want to you can call me.bye(i hang up)

later i was in the class room and txt her"i am free tomorrow"
(i am not looking to see her again i just wanted to talk to her and let her know that she should not be talking about this(her and me) to people from work specially when a supervisor is around):box:


Thursday 29/1/09 i was in a bus in my way home from campus
** something i do is to seat in the seat closer to the isle so people pass me and don't try to seat next to me and if a girl came in when she is about to reach me i move closer to the window so she seat next to me it works 3/5 times**

(i did that today but i used a variation were i put my legs to the isle so she enter my row and she did)
it was 12:30 pm and it was hot inside the bus so my hands started sweating i got one of my hands in the seat she was gotta sat so she found the seat wet and was like wtf is this?? (i how her my hand)
she: do your hands sweat?
me: sometimes.it is kinda hot in here
she:kinda?
me: ok this bus is an oven(she went through some college papers
me:did you pay the tuition today?
she: yes but i am not freshmen
me: ok. i did not talk to her again
 

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Saturday 31 jan 2009 ap. # 10 HB 7.0 ROS

i got to the English class around 8 am the room is full and there are no empty chairs, so i go to the room in from, a girl walks behind me so i ask her if she got class in the same classroom i did.She reply yes, so i grab 2 chairs and took them to our classroom(she thanks me). as soon as i reach our classroom i drop her chair because i don't know were she wants to seat and put mine in the back. she put hers behind me.

(This is the 1st day i went to this class so i only brought a notebook.Teach wants the class to turn to page # something.as i got no book i join her. There is a "match the columns thing" and i fill it up(in her book)without asking for permission.(she did not seems to mind).

After a little while we are talking and she just go interview mode on me asking me stuffs about my work:-were do you work?-were is the store located?-what time do you work today? (when i told her were i work she mentions one of our products that she seems to really like).So i did went interview mode on her as well.

there is a guy behind her and he is also kinda chatting her...(the unit subject was money but i can not remember how exactly we reach to this point in the convo)

he: there are woman that owns 10 + purses
she: so! a woman needs to have lots of accessories and clothes, that way she can land herself a boyfriend(those may not be her exact words but that is was she was trying to say)
me: men do not notice women purses or shoes.(i probably should not be speaking in behalf of the whole gender:rolleyes: ).(I look at her shoes)
she:they are kinda dirty but they are cute.

There was a questionnaire on the book with the title "are you stingy".It was like an statement and 3 possible answers(course of action that you would take) we did it but discussing why she choose those answers.


I look at the way she writes and her letters look like they are under the efect of gravity (incline to the left almost like they are going to crumble.
i told her"your letters are falling" she gave me a playful smile like she was about to punch me.

A while after that the teach wants the student to make parties of two and to exchange an email like you don't know your partner and you are sending that person an email introducing yourself and stating that you want to be friend your partner, them your partner answer the email and we are suppose to bring that the next sat.

**At this point she has my notebook because she was unable to read something in the blackboard**
she: Are you gonna be my partner?( to me her voice sound like she thought i was gonna refuse)
me: If you want to (idiot if she asked you she wants to:box: )

I thought she was only going to write her name and her email address but she also wrote down her cellphone#,and her work #(i wrote my email my name and my cell#).

**class ends and we are going to the ground floor**
she has a class at 2pm so i ask her if she is gonna stay in campus all that time,she told me she was going to head home.i found out she lives close to my home so we walk to cross a pedestrian bridge .I saw a guy ,he is suppose to be my relative but i don't know what we are, i chat with him but i did not introduce them i thought she was gonna keep walking but she waited for me.

she told me she studied English but she was only studying because of her mom and that she quits when she fails in level 5 and she got a j.o.b around that time(she understand somethings but do not like to speak it).
**in the car**
me: (in English)so you understand English but you don't like to speak it(she smiles)
me: (in English)"you got the most beautiful honey colored eyes i have ever seen". I don't think she understand me because she told me not to speak in English to her,(i did not translate that for her).
After that we talk about random stuffs til i reach my stop(we agree on me sending her the 1st MSG on Sunday and she said she was gonna reply on Monday)
 
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