"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Avoiding the Friend Zone Yahoo Article

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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i think this post has SOME SMALL value to the Noobie AFC.

i remember back in the day i had a girl tell me i was too nice. looking back if i read that then i would have been helpful
 

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F*cking *****s.. It's all about them.

It's like, you treat them with respect they say you are too nice.. then you argue with them a little to be a challenge they say you just are not on the same page.. wtf. Pick a lane..
 

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"Pick a lane.."

You drive; they ride shotgun - if they don't like where you're going just hit the ejector seat button.
 

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DonJuanabe said:
"Pick a lane.."

You drive; they ride shotgun - if they don't like where you're going just hit the ejector seat button.

Some days I wish I had an ejection seat installed in my car..

I used to work on F-16's. So from what I know that broad will be rocketing at the speed of sound within the blink of an eye..

"hey why do you always get to pick where we eat?"
"I'm tired.."
"I don't like the music..I'm.. "
(in mid sentence I would just punch that button...)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The last paragraph was upsetting. The part about how with age and experience, women learn that nice men are the right men.

That needs to be taught/learned???? Bad = bad, nice = good. Doesn't get more basic than that. ****ing women bro.
 

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I was expecting crap, but that was actually pretty good. Most women will mention those things inbetween saying you're nice. The *****es will be more forward and rude in their criticizing. Damn *****es!

But yea, its always about them. Thats why I no longer sympathise, go out of my way for, chase, or try to win them over. It is what it is. Too lazy for all that worrying ****. Even the ones who claim this or that person is selfish is selfish themselves. And usually not worth ****. These are human traits, though - not just women. Women just feel entitled to everything, which is why they ***** so much. Especially the attractive, spoiled types.
 

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Notice how the looks topic was avoided in this article?

They want you to believe that the key to sex appeal is to be confident, unpredictable, decisive, and a risk taker.

In other words, your nice guy problem is ONLY a personality flaw you can fix. Hahaha.

Then when you confidently make a move on her to be more "bad/naughty," you'll be a creeper.

It's another form of the "looks don't matter" school of thought.
 

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MisterD said:
The last paragraph was upsetting. The part about how with age and experience, women learn that nice men are the right men.

That needs to be taught/learned???? Bad = bad, nice = good. Doesn't get more basic than that. ****ing women bro.
Just when men don't want them anymore, they learn. LOL

And then when they can't find the EXACT same guy that they rejected 100's of times 10 years ago, they complain: "where are all the good men?"
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup::crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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This article was written by a woman.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
Just when men don't want them anymore, they learn. LOL

And then when they can't find the EXACT same guy that they rejected 100's of times 10 years ago, they complain: "where are all the good men?"
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup::crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
^This.
 

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headFirst said:
Some days I wish I had an ejection seat installed in my car..

I used to work on F-16's. So from what I know that broad will be rocketing at the speed of sound within the blink of an eye..

"hey why do you always get to pick where we eat?"
"I'm tired.."
"I don't like the music..I'm.. "
(in mid sentence I would just punch that button...)

Women complain, I just look them in the eyes and chuckle, then put my finger to my lips and go "Shhhhhhh" with a smile.

After that, I just do whatever I wanted to do.
Also, dinner dates are boring. She's probably saying "You pick boring dates."
That means she's unhappy with what you're doing with her.
Do different, more exciting things.
 

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“Often, ‘nice’ is our code for needy, boring, insecure, socially awkward or bad in bed. We’re just too nice to say it.”
Thank you! Work on your social, sexual, and life skills before you try to be a bad boy.

From the *****s' mouth.
 
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Yup. Treat em with respect, and end up in the friend zone. It's just the way cookie crumbles, my men!

Like Stewie Griffin discovered on Family Guy when Olivia came along...you have to be a jerk on some level, if you want to get anything from her.

I had a girl who flirted with me shamelessly for a month straight, only to tell me she was already seeing someone when I asked her out.
 

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All the problems about "niceness" in many guys are the effect of being brain washed from family and school system while lacking positive masculine examples.

The default male mind set is far from niceness, just remember at the kindergarden how 5yrs old males were treating 5yrs old females, they were all natural in treating them badly or pushing when they were annoying.

It was no problem to deny them to take parts in game where they had no ability as much as ignoring their bvllsh1t, then it comes the "education" and we see the results.

If you think about it, what we were doing was simply being the jerks women love as much as mother nature want us to be.

And before somebody talk about no sex drive for kids, just know that sex drive would have simply made us more aggressive toward them but definitely not chumps, as sexual aggressivity being a distinctive trait of those who get sex regularly.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Who Dares Win said:
All the problems about "niceness" in many guys are the effect of being brain washed from family and school system while lacking positive masculine examples.

The default male mind set is far from niceness, just remember at the kindergarden how 5yrs old males were treating 5yrs old females, they were all natural in treating them badly or pushing when they were annoying.

It was no problem to deny them to take parts in game where they had no ability as much as ignoring their bvllsh1t, then it comes the "education" and we see the results.

If you think about it, what we were doing was simply being the jerks women love as much as mother nature want us to be.

And before somebody talk about no sex drive for kids, just know that sex drive would have simply made us more aggressive toward them but definitely not chumps, as sexual aggressivity being a distinctive trait of those who get sex regularly.
Has this, ever gotten you a girlfriend?
 
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