"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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avoiding the emotional tampon

BongDuy

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to stay outta the friend zone i gotta avoid being her emotional tampon.
in order to do this, i stray away from topics such as
-guys
-family
-her problems

if she brings these topics up, however, whats the best way to let her know that you aren't going to be 'that guy' who listens to her problems?

as of now, i just try to change the subject to ANYTHING, but if she goes on, sometimes i just have to akwardly listen and wait till shes done to say something
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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nismo-4

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Grow some balls, cut her off mid sentence, let her know that you're not that guy to cry to about her problems. :yes:

You know what my mom did me when I was bad? She took away the Nintendos and if I threw a tantrum, she's whip my ass with one of the controllers. Much simpler. :yes:

The point is, don't reward her for bad behavior like this. If she keeps acting up, she's an attention wh0re and walking away/ going ghost is the best thing that is for you. That's my ruling.:yes:

Case closed. Lay down the law. :trouble:
 

floydb25

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The best way, and I hate these terms used on here, is to qualify her. Instead of jumping right into the conversation and providing support / advice - show disinterest in the topic. Like, you're not interested, and don't care. Act aloof, maybe nudge your head as if you're sighing. She'll pick up on this, realize its turning you off, and try to win you over so to speak. They don't want you to think they're boring you. It gives them a bit of a challenge when you're not interested or impressed so easily. You can also change the topic, and the mood. But usually acting disinterested will cause them to change it.

The problem isn't so much getting involved in these topics - its qualifying themselves to the girl. They do it because they think its going to win them brownie points. They think its how to win her over. It never ends with just listening. They go all out, and become the nice guy to prove that they're so great and different and wonderful. They understand her, they are always there for her, blah blah. And that's when she becomes the prize, they're fighting for her, trying to win her over, and (of course) she loses interest and regulates him to the friend-zone. He's trying too hard. Listening to all her problems, providing emotional support, trying to be the one she doesn't ***** about, being the perfect SO they can possibly be... It's all out of approval seeking. They care way, way too much about winning her over, and doing everything right. She picks up on this, and loses interest.

Most girls who lose interest do so because the guy is showing too much interest in her. He's too easy, too available, too eager, too agreeable... No challenge = no attraction. They will even say, after they friend-zone you, that they KNOW you already like them. This turns them off.

Beyond that, you just have to act like a boyfriend - not a friend. Try to focus on action activities, and being upbeat and exciting. Don't just listen to their problems, and bore them to death. Get the sexual vibe going, and don't avoid their sexual advances. Change the mood if it seems too friendly. Don't be so available and talk for hours and hours. Don't act like a friend.

Remember: people only come to you for certain things if you provide those things. If you make it clear that you won't be their emotional tampon - they won't treat you like one. They won't complain about their problems if you don't provide emotional support, give them advice, listen to all their problems, etc. People view you as you make them feel, so make them feel excited, sexual, wanted. Act like a boyfriend, and you will become one.
 
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