Guitar_Whizz
Master Don Juan
There is a problem that almost all guys face when they game a girl....
I call this the 'Ambiguous Zone' (originally coined by Alan Currie). This is when you have met a girl, but you don't know what exactly she wants from you...i.e. does she want to be 'just friends', **** buddies, or have a long term relationship, etc?
In short....you've gamed a girl....but you have no clue what she wants from you. She's left you in that 'ambiguous zone'.
I honestly believe this is one of the biggest problems we all face.
Say you meet a girl, have a really good interaction, then exchange numbers? Most guys would automatically assume that means she's interested in you in a sexual way. But that is not always the case. I've found that many girls will flirt with you and talk to you and exchange numbers, when they don't see you in a sexual way and they have no intention of meeting up with you again or have sex with you.
Or say a girl agrees to meet you for a day 2 - does that automatically mean she views you as more than a friend? Not necessarily.
Or say you get a girl's email address and you email back and forth for a while, flirting a bit and getting to know each other. Does that mean she wants to **** you or just be friends?
How many times have you met girls and ended up with nothing more than an 'orbitor'. An 'orbitor' is a girl who talks to you, texts you/emails you etc, but never actually agrees to meet up and never wants to do anything sexual with you. Meanwhile, she 'strings you along', so you talk to her with the (false) hope that one day things will escalate beyond the platonic realm.
I look back to the interactions I've had with girls where it didn't go anywhere and there was confusion about what the girls wanted from me, and it ALWAYS boils down to the same problem....the AMBIGUOUS ZONE!
Now I don't want to turn this discussion into an 'indirect vs Direct' discussion, however if you go indirect with a girl then you leave yourself susceptable to this ambiguous zone.
Whereas if you approach a girl Direct, you find out where you both stand, thus avoiding the ambiguous zone hell.
This is probably the number one reason why I gave up indirect and now approach girls Direct.
Anyway, back to the topic...just how do you avoid this ambiguous zone hell?
I don't know about you lot, but if I spend weeks 'courting' a woman, only to find out that all along she wanted to be 'just friends', I feel bitter and annoyed for wasting so much time and for her stringing me along. But whenever I push through fear and tell a woman upfront what I'm really looking for, I always feel fine, even if my interests are not reciprocated. I can just move onto another woman without wasting time, so I can eventually find someone who is genuinelly interested in me.
We need to discuss this and share all our ideas, as this is a MASSIVE PROBLEM for all.
I call this the 'Ambiguous Zone' (originally coined by Alan Currie). This is when you have met a girl, but you don't know what exactly she wants from you...i.e. does she want to be 'just friends', **** buddies, or have a long term relationship, etc?
In short....you've gamed a girl....but you have no clue what she wants from you. She's left you in that 'ambiguous zone'.
I honestly believe this is one of the biggest problems we all face.
Say you meet a girl, have a really good interaction, then exchange numbers? Most guys would automatically assume that means she's interested in you in a sexual way. But that is not always the case. I've found that many girls will flirt with you and talk to you and exchange numbers, when they don't see you in a sexual way and they have no intention of meeting up with you again or have sex with you.
Or say a girl agrees to meet you for a day 2 - does that automatically mean she views you as more than a friend? Not necessarily.
Or say you get a girl's email address and you email back and forth for a while, flirting a bit and getting to know each other. Does that mean she wants to **** you or just be friends?
How many times have you met girls and ended up with nothing more than an 'orbitor'. An 'orbitor' is a girl who talks to you, texts you/emails you etc, but never actually agrees to meet up and never wants to do anything sexual with you. Meanwhile, she 'strings you along', so you talk to her with the (false) hope that one day things will escalate beyond the platonic realm.
I look back to the interactions I've had with girls where it didn't go anywhere and there was confusion about what the girls wanted from me, and it ALWAYS boils down to the same problem....the AMBIGUOUS ZONE!
Now I don't want to turn this discussion into an 'indirect vs Direct' discussion, however if you go indirect with a girl then you leave yourself susceptable to this ambiguous zone.
Whereas if you approach a girl Direct, you find out where you both stand, thus avoiding the ambiguous zone hell.
This is probably the number one reason why I gave up indirect and now approach girls Direct.
Anyway, back to the topic...just how do you avoid this ambiguous zone hell?
I don't know about you lot, but if I spend weeks 'courting' a woman, only to find out that all along she wanted to be 'just friends', I feel bitter and annoyed for wasting so much time and for her stringing me along. But whenever I push through fear and tell a woman upfront what I'm really looking for, I always feel fine, even if my interests are not reciprocated. I can just move onto another woman without wasting time, so I can eventually find someone who is genuinelly interested in me.
We need to discuss this and share all our ideas, as this is a MASSIVE PROBLEM for all.
