"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Nn877

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So there's this female friend of mine, always been somewhat flirty. I had a gf at the time and never was too big on cheating, some disagree but I typically won't go out of my way to purposely cheat. Anyways, since I'm single now lately she's been bringing food, paying for drinks, etc. I tease and talk to her like one of the boys. She's attractive but not really my type tho.

She works with a mutual friend of my ours and I think she doesn't know how close a friend me and this guy is, well he told me that she's saying I like her. Which kinda was odd. She's the one doing the most stuff. Classic attention ***** sh*t? That remark pissed me off because I'm not trying to look like one of her orbiters. F that. Any advice on situation? She's a cool girl but I'm not down w her spreading rumors like that.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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j.619

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Force her into the friend zone. Tell her that she's just like a sister to you, that you could never see anything happening between you two, straight up tell her that you don't find her attractive or that you think she's gross (as playfully as you can say it haha). I have a good amount of platonic women-friends and, being an alpha, sometimes need to let it be known that I'm not gaming them. I routinely call my chick-friends gross and ugly (whether they are or aren't), tell them that they're like sisters, etc. Don't let THEM dictate your relationship (even as friends). TELL HER (words or actions) that you're just friends.
 

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Thanks J
Yesterday she showed me a pic of her and her friends and I made a comment abt her friend and she proceeds to say she has a bf PLUS he also hit on her. I caught that so quick she was somewhat jealous and tried building value of herself. Maybe she's just very insecure. I'll throw in sister comment too.
 

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This is all I read from your description of her:

She wants to fvck you.

This is all I read from your take on her actions:

I'm not fvcking her because she's not my "type" and now I think she's pyscho. Why so negative man?
 

Nn877

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Frayzer tbh I'd rather keep her as a friend. She's been on and off again with her bf and I can tell craves attention, I don't want to get involved with all that and just keep things plutonic. I don't need to smash everything that walks.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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j.619

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Nn877 said:
Frayzer tbh I'd rather keep her as a friend. She's been on and off again with her bf and I can tell craves attention, I don't want to get involved with all that and just keep things plutonic. I don't need to smash everything that walks.
Good call. Don't encourage the attention wh*rish behavior. Smash if she's hot and won't cause you drama. Doesn't sound worth the trouble.
 

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Nn877 said:
Frayzer tbh I'd rather keep her as a friend. She's been on and off again with her bf and I can tell craves attention, I don't want to get involved with all that and just keep things plutonic. I don't need to smash everything that walks.
Tell her flat out you're not interested so she'll stop. Unless you like taking advantage of her being overtly nice to try and win you over. It's as simple as that.
 

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Nn877 said:
Frayzer tbh I'd rather keep her as a friend. She's been on and off again with her bf and I can tell craves attention, I don't want to get involved with all that and just keep things plutonic. I don't need to smash everything that walks.
:up: Way to go!
 
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