Tyson420
Senior Don Juan
When she springs her problem with her boyfriend to you.
Quick, it's happening as we speak, yes I'm serious.
Quick, it's happening as we speak, yes I'm serious.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Avoiding becoming a woman's emotional tampon
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I have used the following 2, say:
1. "The only drama I like is the one I read in books. Let's talk about something else"
2. "I don't like talking about drama, I only like talking about [insert subject/subjects]
Number 2 will get them all defensive and they will even start denying they have drama. I would personally neg them a bit, call them "drama queens," tease them a bit etc. Never let a woman talk about boyfriend drama with you! the moment you do you officially become another one of her girlfriends. While you may think you are doing a good thing "listening" to her problems you are losing respect as a man from her because you allow yourself to listen to her sh**. You gain respect as her new girlfriend, but lose it as a man.
Don't worry about her. While women cry to the loser afcs that listen to their boyfriend drama (and he thinking he might be winning points with her by listening) she will still go and f*** her a**hole boyfriend who treats her like crap after the drama is over in a day or 2. You on the other hand won't get nothing.
1. "The only drama I like is the one I read in books. Let's talk about something else"
2. "I don't like talking about drama, I only like talking about [insert subject/subjects]
Number 2 will get them all defensive and they will even start denying they have drama. I would personally neg them a bit, call them "drama queens," tease them a bit etc. Never let a woman talk about boyfriend drama with you! the moment you do you officially become another one of her girlfriends. While you may think you are doing a good thing "listening" to her problems you are losing respect as a man from her because you allow yourself to listen to her sh**. You gain respect as her new girlfriend, but lose it as a man.
Don't worry about her. While women cry to the loser afcs that listen to their boyfriend drama (and he thinking he might be winning points with her by listening) she will still go and f*** her a**hole boyfriend who treats her like crap after the drama is over in a day or 2. You on the other hand won't get nothing.
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Tyson420
Senior Don Juan
i dont think negs would help, shes got low self esteem and shes HB6.5.
And shes 18, AND she's "engaged" to him and has all these retarded dream future plans for her life having a family and bull**** like that.
This isn't an ordinary girl, but I am attracted to her. I'm just afraid, like you said that I may become one of her girlfriends. I should have just said I had to go the second the first sentence came up about him. but i dunno.
I ****ed up.
And shes 18, AND she's "engaged" to him and has all these retarded dream future plans for her life having a family and bull**** like that.
This isn't an ordinary girl, but I am attracted to her. I'm just afraid, like you said that I may become one of her girlfriends. I should have just said I had to go the second the first sentence came up about him. but i dunno.
I ****ed up.
I disagree, a simple one like "oh don't be such a drama queen ill buy you a happy meal if you stop" or something silly to get her to stop whining. Worked for me (got a laugh, took the opportunity and i changed the subject right after).Tyson420 said:
You did f*** up but we all do (i learned by making this mistake also). The only way you will come up winning in this situation is if you show her you are a man, NOT HER PSYCHOLOGIST!
Why don't you try asking her out? no seriously, she wants to talk about her boyfriend drama, you show her you are a man not her girlfriend by telling her to STOP, you tell her if she wants to come chill w you downtown to "talk" (you never mention talk about her drama). You show her a good time, take her bowling, pool, do plenty of kino, you make her forget her bf and never once talk or let her talk about her bf.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Tyson420
Senior Don Juan
I went into some psychology **** because i really really felt bad she was really ****ed up over it.f283000 said:
but i can probably fix it, with your advice. thanks, next time she does this **** on me I'll be a MAN!
One thing you have to know is that the mere fact she went to you for her drama is a really bad sign. She probably sees you as a nice guy which is why she went to you with her problems. You think shes going to go cry a river to the jock? the jerk? the a**hole, the other hot guy she would love to f***? NO! women don't want to give off the appearance of being drama queens to the guys they want to f***.Tyson420 said:I went into some psychology **** because i really really felt bad she was really ****ed up over it.
but i can probably fix it, with your advice. thanks, next time she does this **** on me I'll be a MAN!
Knowing this you can still turn this into a positive by refusing her contract. She went to you with her drama because she wants you to be her new girlfriend she whines and complains to/her new male psychologist. You do not want that contract, and if you don't you need to stop her dead in her tracks.
She expects you to accept her contract (listen to her drama) because she already sees you as a nice guy. If you stop her dead in her tracks, tell her to stop talking about drama, or refuse her contract in any other way you are refusing to be her new gf/psychologist and showing her that you are a man. You will gain massive respect with her and attraction.
Women will give men contracts but you don't have to accept them and when you don't you gain respect each time. Contracts are what she wants the relationship to be between you two. It ain't about she wants it's about WHAT YOU WANT! do you want her as a gf but she pulled the friend card on you? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT! wants you to listen to her drama and thus you becoming her new gf to cry to? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT!
hb: my bf is such a jerk he lied to me about this and that
you: I don't talk about drama, let's talk about something else
BOOM! you just showed her you ain't going to listen to her drama, and while in your mind you might think "o no i hope i didn't offend her" in actuality you just showed her you are a man and can stop her dead in her tracks if you want to. Disagreeing with women leads to attraction this is proven and it needs to be done as often as you can.
Never let a woman talk to you about the other men in her life in your presence. You want them to think and talk about you. Don't be afraid to stop them dead in their tracks, "I don't want to hear about your ex." Again that may sound tough (if you are an afc and a p***) but it works. Don't be afraid of stopping women dead in their tracks or disagreeing with them, both of these will actually make you more attractive to women and more masculine.
How boring are you that she has to talk about her boyfriend to you? ("Tyson is so boring and predictable that he seems like the type of guy who will listen to how my boyfriend problems treats me bad, yet I give the best sex ever!")Tyson420 said:
Come on dude, step it up.
DonJuan11 hit it on the head.
We can give you lines to deflect this sh!t, but prevention is better than cure.
When they're around you, if they're too busy having fun, they wouldn't talk about their BF problems.
Anyway, if she brings up her relationship problems, tell her to call her girls up instead.
We can give you lines to deflect this sh!t, but prevention is better than cure.
When they're around you, if they're too busy having fun, they wouldn't talk about their BF problems.
Anyway, if she brings up her relationship problems, tell her to call her girls up instead.
Tyson420
Senior Don Juan
Sorry, I had to swagger jack that "Happy Meal" line. She thought it was cute, I'll make up my own next time.
Worked though. We set up a date, but if she talks about this loser during the Paranormal Activity movie I'm leaving.
It wasn't that I was boring, she was crying about her problems to everyone who'd listen so in other words... Everyone. And she broke up with him over a month ago.
I wasn't talking to her prior to this, the last time I talked to her was... September. I spoke to her again yesterday when I looked her up on facebook and was reminded of how fine she looked, so I called.
I'm glad I made this thread, this can probably help other people who were taken off guard like I was when a girl decides to suddenly spring her problems on you for no reason.
Worked though
. We set up a date, but if she talks about this loser during the Paranormal Activity movie I'm leaving.It wasn't that I was boring, she was crying about her problems to everyone who'd listen so in other words... Everyone. And she broke up with him over a month ago.
I wasn't talking to her prior to this, the last time I talked to her was... September. I spoke to her again yesterday when I looked her up on facebook and was reminded of how fine she looked, so I called.
I'm glad I made this thread, this can probably help other people who were taken off guard like I was when a girl decides to suddenly spring her problems on you for no reason.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
awesome! glad to know the advice worked! :woo:Tyson420 said:Sorry, I had to swagger jack that "Happy Meal" line. She thought it was cute, I'll make up my own next time.
Worked though
She is basically yours for the taking. Just remember to discipline her if she starts talking about her ex bf. Discipline not as in smacking her across the face, discipline as in:
"We're here to have fun not to talk about him"
"i don't want to hear you talking about him in my presence"
"if you talk about him again i'll get mad and you won't get a chance to take me to mcdonalds, so behave!"
whatever you come up with. Don't ever be afraid to lay down the law with a girl. They love it when you do and increases your masculinity and leadership qualities in their eyes. They want a guy that will lead them and won't put up with bs. Don't ever be afraid to disagree with them or lay down the law when necessary. It creates attraction and is what seperates MEN from the nice guys.
Quiksilver
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I just go cold fish when women start to talk about their boyfriends with me.
Stop paying attention and do something else. Give a one lined bogus comment about the situation and move on to something else.
Stop paying attention and do something else. Give a one lined bogus comment about the situation and move on to something else.
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
dont leave during the movie. Over-reacting is a giveaway. "I dont wanna talk about your bf" shows you have strong feelings.
I tend to act indifferent, saying things like "gee, I thought he was an okay guy, maybe he's just having bad times right now". or... "what can I say, he doesn't sound that bad to me". It shows I am not trying to "compete" or "subliminally torpedo" this guy. Also secretly shows I welcome any/all competitors into my arena.
I tend to act indifferent, saying things like "gee, I thought he was an okay guy, maybe he's just having bad times right now". or... "what can I say, he doesn't sound that bad to me". It shows I am not trying to "compete" or "subliminally torpedo" this guy. Also secretly shows I welcome any/all competitors into my arena.