Avoid women who's friends complain about men.

[Luthor Rex]

Avoid women who have friends that complain about men.

I'm sure you've known women like this at some point in your life -- they like to get into groups and complain about men. Their complaints can be anything really, maybe they complain about men drinking too much or staying at home too much or whatever else. It's not really important what the gripe is, what is important is that they do it.

You see, friendships are formed when people have things in common. Common hobbies, common interests... common pain. Women who get together to complain about how awful men are have bonded over a common pain. If that pain decreases or goes away all together, then one of the bonds of their friendship is lost. They benefit from this shared suffering because it brings them intimacy with other women. It's like a badge of honor they all wear proudly.

If you start dating one of these kinds of women, the only way to keep her is to treat her badly. That way she will have something to go and complain about to her girlfriends. With something to complain about, this will allow her to maintain her intimacy with her girlfriends.

The longer a woman has been around other women like this, the harder it will be for her to give it up. Part of her identity is based on this negative frame, and changing that would mean a loss of identity. Being in a relationship with a man who treats her well also means a loss of esteem and appreciation from her girlfriends, since she will have nothing to complain about.

You can't win every battle, but just as important is knowing when to fight and knowing when to retreat. If you find a woman like what I've described here, then it's time to retreat.

... and knowing is half the battle, GI Joe!

 

[jophil28]

Brilliant !

 

[Bogard]

Wow, this sounds like the relationship I am in now! The girl I've been with for the last month has friends that complain to her about guys and her friends call guys dogs and neanderthals. Also she has a group of feminist friends. From the get go I've knocked down all forms of bull**** from her and I've been telling her to cook me meals and she does it. She even did my laundry. She calls me a jerk, mean and a dictator but she's really, really into me. I've taken her virginity (on the 3rd date) and later even though she was very resistant to it I took her BJ virginity also. She says that I'm the only guy to ever say no to her.

 

[Smack]

Also worth noting is that even if your girlfriend isn't the type that complains about men to her friends, if the group she's in has a few of these type, sooner or later she will be amongst them complaining about you. Women are very much like sheep in that if a few of the group do it, they all do it.

Makes titty flashing at bars all the more exciting.

 

[Luthor Rex]

Also worth noting is that even if your girlfriend isn't the type that complains about men to her friends, if the group she's in has a few of these type, sooner or later she will be amongst them complaining about you. Women are very much like sheep in that if a few of the group do it, they all do it.

It is kinda disturbing just how easily women will cave in to peer pressure.

 

[wait_out]

To be fair, it's not only women who cave to peer pressure. Here's one example, though I'm sure you can find many others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

 

[Jitterbug]

Great advice.

I used to tell my mates to avoid women with feminazi friends, because they're cut from the same cloth, the only difference being that the friends are overtly disrespecting men while the others hide it from us. The ones who do it covertly always fvck up their relationship and end up wh0ring around with the so-called jerks just to prove that their (and their friends') view on men is correct (protecting their ego investment).

Also worth noting is that even if your girlfriend isn't the type that complains about men to her friends, if the group she's in has a few of these type, sooner or later she will be amongst them complaining about you. Women are very much like sheep in that if a few of the group do it, they all do it.

If she chooses to join and stay with a group that b!tch about men then she's already been that way, but she was on her best behaviour around you so you didn't notice.