"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Average girl tried to neg my friend

ricorico

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We were at a friends house today all hanging out. There were a few cute girls there too. A friend who was there is a little older than the rest of our group. But he's ae good looking guy.

Anyway when I walked in with him, we had noticed one of the least cute girls looking his way. He sort of ignores he because he's trying to hit on on of the cuter girls.

Later he comes to me half laughing half puzzled. The average girl had gone over to talk to him. As they're talking she tells him he looks older than the rest of the group. He's 27. Just a few years older than most of us, but most people can't tell. But this girl ask him if he's 40. He says no. She says "Oh,are you older than that?".

He's not in the PUA community and as he told me this I explained what a neg was and I think she was trying to use it on him.

She obviously knew right off the bat he was way above her league and tried to bring him down to her level by implying he looks old . Are girls getting into the neg game too?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Sperminator

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I don't think negs work on guys. Well it doesn't work on me at least. I hate when girls try to neg. Most of the time it just seems like they are insulting me even though they might be kidding. I mean every now and then I find it cute if they do it right but most of the time they over do it and it starts to get on my nerves.
 

ketostix

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Like I've said before girls neg and DHV all the time. I almost think Mystery or whoever first suggested the neg, copied it from girl game.
 

ricorico

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Neg did'nt work on my friend . Later she tried to fish for his last name and his MySpace address .

I do believe Negs work on some people. But that is mainly with ones who have self esteem issues. The same type who obsess over people of opposite sex who ignore them instead of moving along. That happens with men too. Not at all isolated to just women.
 

Master Bates

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A neg could work on a guy, I guess. Although I don't think it could ever build attraction in a guy the way it can in a girl. Any neg that plays off someone's real insecurities is just going to piss them off and make them not want to talk to you.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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saber

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in case you didn't know neg=teasing. Its just a fancy word over something socialy savy people do every day and something everyone is familiar with.

IMO negging a girl without a good situation as it happened to ur friend is pointless and has a similiar effect.
 

Rudra

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Good comeback woulda been-
- hey you look pretty old. So how old are you?
- 2007
 
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