"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Average Frustrated Pick-Up Artist

magickarl

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The short story is this: I have no problems picking up girls, no problems getting them in the sack with me, and most end up just wanting a no strings attached friends-with-benefits type relationship.

I know, I know, I'm at least getting laid, which is more than some people are doing, so why am I complaining? For some reason I feel empty. It's like I cannot get any sort of serious relationship going and I can't figure out why. My inquiries have revealed that I'm in shape, good looking, smart, funny, and apparently a good lay. So, this confused me even further. It befuddled me so much I did what any man wanting an answer does --- I asked the ladies.

The responses I got were more confusing than the question itself to me.

My favorite lady told me:
"You're too demanding, Magic Karl"

My sassy lady told me:
"You have too much attitude, Magic Karl"

My shy lady told me:
"I feel like I'd be dragging you down, Magic Karl"

All of these answers confused me. The only thing I ever demanded of my favorite lady was her phone number, I've given my sassy lady no more attitude then she has ever given me, and my shy lady has more going for her in life than I do. Even though their answers were different, one thing they all have in common is that they are very busy ladies with very demanding schedules. So now, I need a man's perspective.

Am I picking the wrong women? Should I just suck it up and be thankful for what I have?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Warrior74

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yer 19. be thankful and have fun. come back and worry about that **** when your 30.
 

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Warrior74 said:
yer 19. be thankful and have fun. come back and worry about that **** when your 30.
You're one year older than me and complaining ?
i should kill you out of pure hate lol

I have a remotely similar experience but it was the reason i quit PU and all that shyat. The situation was hanging out, talked to a girl; The type that's really cool but also looks like you won't get a chance with her in a million years
I said hi, she responded, felt she was cool as hell so i joked around and then 4 other girls literally just barge in and approach me.

Taken by the "playa" moment; i started playing with them and saying **** about not having enough time. The cool girl was turned off and away, i joked around with those other 4 but i felt as hollow as a balloon that night

What changed afterwards ?
I realized i was only using girls to feel better about myself or believing that if girls like me then i'm allowed to like who i am

I dunno, maybe you have the same thing going on, different issues albeit, with relationships. I just thought my little experience could have something for ya, ;)

All the best
 
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