"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"Avatar's 25 approaches in February Journal"

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Saturday, February 26th

Approach #20

In a club. When I got there the only ones on the dance floor were these 3 hot chicks. One girl that caught my eye was half white/black and was a HB9.

I was in the dancing mood so just danced with every chick on the floor. Later that night on the patio I turned around and bang..I'm 5 feet from that HB9 and she's sitting by herself. So I slip myself in there beside. I used the "didn't we go to different schools line". She didn't get it right away so I was able to throw some good C+F at her. As it turns out I went to highschool with one of her x-bfs. She showed some signs of interest and I # closed her.

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This Thursday I got a 1st date with this HB7.5 half japanese/white girl I met in the bar last week, and another date on friday with a girl I've been seeing since January.

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Now comes the bad news. It's March 1st and my grand total for approaches in the month of february is 20. 5 shy. I will continue posting approaches until I read 25 though and whenever else something interesting comes along.

Approaches: 20
Numbers: 9
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You have a 50% ratio, after you have completed your 25 approaches, try a different task and try get it to an 80% ratio.
I would use the "Avatar's 25 scores" try get 25 girls to kiss you and get a 80% YES success rate.
 

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Originally posted by Don_Joffe
You have a 50% ratio, after you have completed your 25 approaches, try a different task and try get it to an 80% ratio.
I would use the "Avatar's 25 scores" try get 25 girls to kiss you and get a 80% YES success rate.
Good idea Don. We'll have to see. :cool:
 

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Time for an update here. Nailed off 3 approaches the last few days.

Approach #21

HB8 sitting at a starbucks. I'm in a suit and tie. Got a little eye contact so after I get up to leave with a business associate I go up to her and say "Excuse me..I'm sorry to bother you but I had to get your name before I left". She loved it..we chatted for about 5 minutes and when I went for her # she said I'm really sorry Avatar, but I do honestly have a bf..he's up in so and so right now. I said no problem at all! it was nice chatting with you. Very up beat.

I find 3/4 of these HB8+ have bfs. I think the most tell the truth too.

Approach #22

I introduced myself to these two girls at an upscale club. One a 7.0, the other a 5.0. I kept it brief and moved on and talked with more girls. Later on the dance floor I turn around and there is the 7.0. We dance, we make out, we talk, I get some feels. I try taking her home by using this C+F line: "so can you cook good breakfast?" She was lovin' it but said Avatar we have real bad timing tonight. I was like the rag? She's like yep. Anyways, I drive her home, we make out more, she tells me she'll cook breakfast for me next time if I call. With an offer like that I suppose I'll call her. :cool:

Approach #23

At a Starbucks tonight with another associate. Holy hotness beside me. This HB8.0 wth a 9.5 body sitting beside us (conservative ratings - her ass was mint). Definate marriage looks material. I recognized her from the Starbucks a few weeks ago when she was studying with a bunch of friends and she gave me a hard on then too. So on my way out I go up to her and say "Excuse me..I'm sorry to bother you..but I had to get your name before leaving". We introduced. I asked if she cared to chat..she said she was really busy studying.. (hmm..not good)..so I go for a # close right away..and say well you have a bf eh? or are you single?

She says yes..I say ahh thats too bad well nice meeting you and start walking out and then stop...I turn around and go back to her with a big smile and say:
"hold on a sec..did you say you did have a bf or yes you are single?"

She starts giggling and says yes I AM single. So we end up exchanging #s.

This girl was in graduate school and studying the same stuff as the previous starbucks approach..I wonder if they are friends. :D

So anyways, as I'm driving off in my 350z, I drove by the window, she looks out while putting on lip gloss and double takes me in my car..she looked like a deer caught in head lights. I think we can say her IL just went up a few knotches. :D

Approaches = 23

Numbers = 11
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I wished I had a 350Z or could even afford one...that would help m confidence with cold approaches.
 

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Originally posted by Avatar
The goal: I will approach 25 women (with 7-10 looks) outside of the bar scene sober in the month of February.

Approach 22 sounds like it was done drunk in the bar scene.

Good work though.
 

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Can we see a picture of you?

It seems like meeting new women is very easy for you. Maybe your look is helping?

However, keep up the good work, I bet your confidence is really high right now.
 

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Hi everyone. Haven't been around the forum as of late.

I did complete my 25 approaches by mid-march (was busy improving other things in my life), but on my 25th approach I met this absolutely incredible HB9 at my gym. I was getting eye contact for a week so I went up and introduced myself. The rest is history.

We've been dating 2 weeks now and things are quickly materializing into LTR. I'm not rushing anything of course (holding my ground), but she is giving out huge buying signs and I have 32 qualities written down that I am looking for in a potential wife and she has reached 30 out of 32 so far, so she has my current undivided attention (the last two are sexual so we'll find out soon).

I'll throw in an update every now and again on it.

And I always appreciated the support this thread has received. It definately changed my relationship life and even my professional life.

If anyone attempts something similar to the journal I have made, I believe the key is writing your goals down and review them everyday. You'll have no idea what this added clarity will do in achieving your dreams. Good luck to all.
 

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ME: "I gotta ask you, didn't we go to different schools together?"
HER: "Yes, I think we did, did you go to _ _ University?"
ME: "Nope" (with a big smile on my face now)
HER: (Smiling now as well and very receptive) "Well the University is very encompassing, I think you are quite right..we did go to different schools together."
(We both start laughing now)
ME: "Wow you caught onto that one fast. My name is Avatar"
(We shake hands)

Im supprised she did not slap you for being a geek. Who the fvck uses their nick in public?

*note the sarcasm pls*
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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AgonyUncle, I often use the phrase "lol" in public too, and for some reason I get odd stares. I don't get it.

Cheers,

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