Attractive women.

[satelliteparties]

I figured I'd ask this here instead of the main forum because let's face it, a lot of guys in the main forum have never even kissed a girl but like to make up success stories.

For those of you who have been exposed to, had friends, friends of friends, co-workers, or dated/slept with white women that would rank a 7 or better to the average guy (as in if you asked a bunch of guys on the street, most would put her at least a 7 or better) about what percent would you say has egos and acts like that girl in American Beauty?

I've only dated one hot girl...but like I've mentioned in other threads...she didn't dress the part or care...she didn't think she was ugly or anything, but just had a "one of the guys" personality...but it seems from what I hear, and the few hot women I've been exposed to in person (I live in nowhereville, USA) that they have this ring of superiority to them.

One girl on okcupid started asking me if I've dated girls as hot as her...and when I said yes (she was just any other 7) she demanded to see pics to see if they were better than her (don't worry I didn't send her anything and let her know that vanity negates attraction.)

I ask this, because if I'm to date a girl, or even sleep with a girl short term or as a hookup, I'm a genuine guy. I'd like to tell a woman how good she looks on occasion, not to svck up to her, but ideally I'd want it to be a girl who would appreciate it...without it being a fattie or UG that isn't really attractive to me. I'm the passionate, loving type.

Even just seeing "that look"..you know that smug look on attractive women turns me off.

So I guess what I'm asking from the more experienced is, are there more women like my ex out there...who have looks and have modesty (not low self-esteem problems, but just "I'm not better than anyone else?)

For a lot of guys...a hot girl is a hot girl, and a lot of guys would put up with that type of crap just to say they're dating or doing a hot girl...but for me, it's an instant boner shrinker.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Atom Smasher's Postulate:

Physical beauty is inversely proportional to quality of character.

 

[Jitterbug]

It depends on how hot she thinks you are, relative to herself.

I also see that kind of bad attitude more often than not from girls who are only somewhat attractive with the help of makeup & good clothes. The beautiful ones (8+) have issues of their own, but they're less in your face about how attractive they are and how lucky you are to be in their company. Probably because deep down the former know they aren't really pretty (thus obsessing with it) and the latter know that they are pretty.

I'd disagree with Atom's "Physical beauty is inversely proportional to quality of character." I'd say the two have nothing to do with each other. The women with the worst character I've met are plain, ugly or fat. The best ones are average looking. The rest are a real mix.

 

[satelliteparties]

I'd gladly take average looking if I found her attractive if that makes sense. Even better than finding a "HB."

Last girl I dated in December would probably be a 6 at best to most guys on the site...cute, not chubby but medium build, kind of plain...but her personality was a 10...didn't work out for other reasons also she was very prudy. (i have the worst luck at meeting born-again virgins lol.)

I also agree with you Jitterbug...most of the women that have treated me horribly over the years (random women that didn't know me from a hole in the wall) were ugly or fat or not ugly but severely overrating their attractiveness (like you said, perhaps obsessing with the fact that they aren't as good as the 8 pluses.)

 

[squirrels]

You know, as much as I've worked on "Don Juanning", as much as I've tried to encompass the "alpha male" posture, the one thing I STILL can't do effectively is call women on their BS.

I've dated a couple of girls who have that, "I'm hot and I know it" attitude. They don't even have to be 8+ on the looks scale...they just have to have been approached by so many pandering men that they get the impression that all men ADORE them and secretly want to sleep with them.

Then they get it in their heads that they can get by without simple things like "manners". Phone rings during a date? She'll answer it because she knows you won't blow her off...you want in her pants SO bad you'll tolerate that kind of crap. She can sit there and emasculate you, give you that smug look and tell you how stupid and immature you are for being a man. She knows you'll tolerate it because even if the "date" is really p!ssing you off, you'll hang in there on the off-chance that you can get her horny enough to f*ck.

Now I can deliver little negs with the best of them, but some of these girls are so immune to it, sometimes you just have to tell them outright to "f**k off with that sh*t". I think they WANT you to.

Thing is, I've never been the type to just drop the hammer outright on a girl. I think I've only once or twice shut a girl down in the middle of a date outright...when the rudeness level escalated to "intolerable". Outside of that, I've tried to play the gentleman and at least finish out the date civilly, then just never call again.

Usually that happens only when I feel I've completely lost the frame. And that DOES happen...sometimes a woman will just blow me away with her audacity. Usually, I can punch out with my dignity. There are times, though, where I have been SO hung-up on banging a particular girl that the reversal sends me reeling and I collapse to total-chump state and have to bail to save face.

Next time a girl tries to pull "attitude" with you, try telling her to shut the f**k up. In a playful way, but at the same time letting her know you seriously want her to shut the f**k up. You know, like you would with your friends.

One of two things could happen...she could either respect it, maybe starting a playful argument but respecting that you said it...or she could seriously get offended and leave. You have to be OKAY with this outcome...you have to be the guy who is OKAY if she just bails, because he knows he can get equal-caliber p*ssy at any time.

Pretty girls are a dime-a-dozen. Stop acting like they're treasures...most of them just want to be treated like their kinda-cute friends.