"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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attractive redhead co-worker, i'm interested!

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So i've been interning in this place for the past month and a half. i've only got a few weeks left here.
i've noticed her a few times and all i saw was a girl with a cute face.

yesterday in the narrow hallway we walked pass each other and i decided to make EC, smile and say hi. She did the same.
instantly in my eyes her attraction level jumped ten folds.

earlier today, i was walking down that hallway again and she was bent over filing stuff in the filing cabinet...in her tight black sexy dress and her black heels. I'm thinking "nice..wonder who could she be?"

So she stood straight to let me pass, to my surprise it was her again, she smiled w/EC again as i passed and vice versa. And now im just having fantasies of grabbing her and screwing her in the bathroom stall, honestly i just want her bad.
Women can be friendly in co-worker situations, but she seems shy and interested at the same time...
We dont necessarily work together, she works down the hall in another dep't and comes around every once in awhile.

what do i do?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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solo1 said:
And now im just having fantasies of grabbing her and screwing her in the bathroom stall, honestly i just want her bad.
I think you, my friend, have just become Dr. Phil's worst nightmare.
 

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And now im just having fantasies of grabbing her and screwing her in the bathroom stall, honestly i just want her bad.


The first thing you need to do is control those emotions my friend, or you'll end up screwing it up. Take a deep breath, lean back and 'approach'.
 
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Usually when I am extremely turned on by a girl, maybe it has something to do with the vibe I give, but this almost always makes her relax
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It's ironic, it's usually when I take a deep breath and not think about how I like her, the vibe I give completely sends the wrong message and the girl doesn't have a clue I'm hitting on her.
 

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Always remember: Dating girls at work is usually a bad idea.

But I guess, since you'll only be there for a few more weeks, you can keep on dating her after you're gone, and then its all good.
 
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Always remember: Dating girls at work is usually a bad idea.

But I guess, since you'll only be there for a few more weeks, you can keep on dating her after you're gone, and then its all good.
I don't know about you, but I value the ****orus more than the paycheck.
 

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reallyfreakinlost said:
I don't know about you, but I value the ****orus more than the paycheck.
Good luck with that. I hope you find some way to make it through life without getting tons of sexual harrassment suits.

Lol, the office slut.
 
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Ace of Flames said:
Good luck with that. I hope you find some way to make it through life without getting tons of sexual harrassment suits.

Lol, the office slut.
I'm a porn director, you fvcking moron!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Espi said:
1. Establish convo immediately. Approach her, say hi, and start talking..."So, what do you do for our lovely company?"

2. Isolate her and engage in more convo. After convo, say, "You know, i have to get back to work, but there's place down the road I like to eat at. Would you care to join me this Friday at noon?" On the lunchdate, establish kino.

Isolation is huge...she has to feel comfortable around you, and she most likely isn't most comfortable at the office.

3. Number-close the target.

Shouldn't be too hard...you mention she's a sexy dresser...take it as a sign that she's ready to fvuck.
isolating her should be easy, usually we run into each other on the 'other' side of the office with the wall of cabinets, people only walk in that area when going to the bathroom or exit.

I dont know, ill see what i do. It'll be hard to get out of my head that she's likely middle/late 20's with a payroll at the company and her own place, and me 22 yr old casually dressed bum doing an unpaid internship still living at home, still in college.

From the looks of it my chances are pretty slim, as she'll eventually find out.
 

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^ ^ Yeah my thoughts exactly, why waste time trying.. u know ur going to fail... keep it to masturbation


-Cod3r
 
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If you keep telling yourself she's too good for you, you are putting yourself in a no-win situation. I know you don't have good chances, but for god's sakes learn to enjoy flirting with a girl, stop being uptight
 

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Instead of letting us know you're interested in her, let her know it.

Approach and start a conversation.
 

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your thinking about this girl wayyy 2 much

shes just another girl. go upto her and say something funny.

if she laughs straight away tell her your going to this bar or whereever and shes welcome to join you.

oh if she says shes got other things to do or shes kind of busy tell her your more fun
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Espi said:
:nono:

You've GOT TO get her out of the office environment, bro, primarily to establish kino. I don't recommend you touch her in the workplace.
youre probably right but how do you propose i do that? the entire floor is office space half a block wide the exit doors are glass on both sides, in the center are 6 elevators. so basically entrance to the bathrooms + exit + pantry room are by that narrow hallway from which i run into her.
I get it, sexual harassment...tough situation, even chatting her up (+ kino) and # closing in the office environment may seem awkward.

Anyway i didnt run into her today. Maybe my opportunities would be better if i ran into her during hte morning or after closing hours, outside the office environment. i dont know where on the floor she works, but next time i run into her ill definitely chat up and see what happens.
 

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next time chat her up and ask her what's a good place to hang out/have a drink. Let her suggest stuff.
 

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holy f*cking **** this just keeps getting better and better.
I love it here, now im a little disappointed im outta here in 2 more weeks.

today i was in my office and as she walked pass it she looked over to see if i was there, and i looked back.
Later i was at teh xerox area, and as i was coming out from the room i literally bumped into her as she was heading down the hallway...we both apologized and smiled at each other.

an hour later im in my office looking at a book. My supervisor and HER come into my office and introduces me to her. The whole time she had a smile on her face...mine too. so what happened was next week my supervisor is on vacation so some projects ill be working with the redhead.

this is so fvcking exciting..cant wait till monday. it's noon now and i wont be coming in again till monday. When i start working with her, ill have all the reasons to go over to her desk (wherever it is) and be able to fluff talk some and eventually # close by next week.
In the workplace, sometimes it's best to let things happen naturally...thats the way i look at it.

But anyway if i do manage to get a lunch date or coffee date, how the hell do i approach it, kiss close or some crap..? she's still my co-worker.
 
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