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Attractive Older Women

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Okay, I know most of you will think that is an oxymoron. But:

One thing I've been noticing lately is older women (say, late 40s to early 50s) who are surprisingly attractive. I agree that most of them are downright nasty and undoable, but there is a small percentage of them that held on to their looks. I know I'm older than most guys here, but I was wondering if some of the other older guys here think this also? I don't expect the 25 year olds here to agree, necessarily.

First off, they have to have remained thin, of course. But the problem with most older women who remain thin is they get wrinkley and their skin starts to look like paper. I know one woman who is about 50 and she looks great in the face but her hands look like old woman hands.

But some somehow retain their looks. I'm guessing it must be mostly genetics, because I know older women who have strict diets and workout constantly who look like crap. They're thin and in shape, but they're not attractive.

One woman I know, again she's about 50, she's built small, which I like, and she still looks good. She's kind of insecure, so she comes across as being very feminine and submissive, which kind of drives me crazy. Shows how confidence is not always an attractive female trait, I've always considered it a masculine trait. I'm taken and she's married though, so it doesn't matter. But I've noticed other guys who are quite taken with her also, so it's not just me.
 

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hmmm since i'm younger I guess gonna say it, lol.

yes sometimes I saw some womans on they 40 who was good looking nice body and face, you can easily tap that without problems.

but would I look for a LTR with one? no, could I bang then if I find then nice enough for it? yes, but hey its up to you really
 

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Yes, I do notice the same thing.

There are some very attractive young looking woman at 50.
Good genetics plays a big part.
Sometimes ethnic background can make a difference (at least to someone of different origin).

Typically the older pretty woman have a few things in common...

1) non-smokers.
2) not a party girl.
3) never been obese.
4) not a sun worshiper.
5) reasonable healthy lifestyle.

SH
 

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SecondHalf said:
Yes, I do notice the same thing.

There are some very attractive young looking woman at 50.
Good genetics plays a big part.
Sometimes ethnic background can make a difference (at least to someone of different origin).

Typically the older pretty woman have a few things in common...

1) non-smokers.
2) not a party girl.
3) never been obese.
4) not a sun worshiper.
5) reasonable healthy lifestyle.

SH
6) like to come pick you up in their mercedes and take you out to dinner
7) have spare time, due to not having to work because of rich ex husband
8) because of above, workout, have fake boobies, take care of themselves
9) DTF and, if you're younger, aren't looking for a relationship

If you can handle a few wrinkles, Cougars are great. No drama, they know the deal, are horny, and some times can teach you a thing or two :up:
 

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zekko

Did you just meet Mrs.5string at Starbucks? Bout 118 lbs, blonde, green, 36/24/38D's? She was probably wearing something classy with nice heels.
 

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It depend on the person and their choice what they like and how they feel happy. Yes women of 40's are attractive
 

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zekko said:
First off, they have to have remained thin, of course. But the problem with most older women who remain thin is they get wrinkley and their skin starts to look like paper. I know one woman who is about 50 and she looks great in the face but her hands look like old woman hands.
heerin lies the problem:

1) slim women in their late 40's/early 50's...about 5% of that age group
2) of that 5%. 1% retain youthfulness, smooth skin etc...
but then, this is the age thing, it happens, even working out and taking care of themselves doesnt make up the ground sometimes, not for blokes either. the pool is much shallower, best you can do is be the barracouda. I will not get with the horrors, the whales, the monsters, I fvcking refuse point blank. id rather go without and I do. to many fat *****s who can land some dumb fvck who is gratefull for pvssy lining up to get with them. not for me thanks
 

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Dear Zecko,
Yes I agree with you,if they haven't smoked,work out,eat healthy food and avoid the Sun,they age better....I currently have a plate,Chinese 66 years Old...she has almost no wrinkles,very fit,toned body,skillful in bed,tight,never needs lubrication....Another plate I see maybe every fortnight is 60ish,Chinese mixed with Thai,she is very similar....These Asian Women have no religious hangups,will do whatever you want and find their joy in service...The trade off is that they never really understand what you are saying,particularly idiom.... While they do have humour,it is almost childlike,lacks the subtlety we enjoy....That is something you have to get from your mates and Family!
 

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A lot of women are going downhill at 35 these days. Most of the older women are not in shape and look way older for their age. The only ones I see that you could consider "hot" are the ones who had work done to make them look younger.
 

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It all depends where you live/hangout. The richer, classier places are going to have the best older women, for obvious reasons. The dumpier cities are going to have the overweight welfare ladies with 5 kids with wardrobes consisting of 7 different colors of sweatpants to stretch around their guts.

Go where the money is and you will be rewarded with high class cougar vagina. Doesn't mean you have to spend a lot of money, if those chicks take a liking to you then their purse is wide open, they go after what they want. Thus the name Cougars.
 

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I don't know about all men, but my window of do-ability extends to women about 10 years older than I am at the time. Really, though, as I get older, the do-able ones my age or older are fewer and fewer.
 

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plate's_empty said:
It all depends where you live/hangout. The richer, classier places are going to have the best older women, for obvious reasons. The dumpier cities are going to have the overweight welfare ladies with 5 kids with wardrobes consisting of 7 different colors of sweatpants to stretch around their guts.

I second this very much. The women are much more attractive in Cali than in most of Arkansas.

Go where the money is and you will be rewarded with high class cougar vagina. Doesn't mean you have to spend a lot of money, if those chicks take a liking to you then their purse is wide open, they go after what they want. Thus the name Cougars.

But they still have to choose you first. Since the media is continuing to help them be hypergamous, there are some that think their vaginas are still golden!
Get equipped.
 

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plate's_empty said:
If you can handle a few wrinkles, Cougars are great.
What would a cougar be to me, about 80? Lol.
 

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zekko said:
What would a cougar be to me, about 80? Lol.
Yeah, I was thinking from my standpoint. Hellen Mirren's a Gilf and could get some. She's in her 60's.... anything older than that and I don't know :eek:
 

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