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Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Attraction vs. Seduction

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1) What are the similarities between attraction and seduction?

2) What are the differences between attraction and seduction?

3) Which is better? And for what type of situation?

4) Recommended e-books for creating attraction?

5) Recommended e-books for seduction?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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i would assume seduction is where you are externally doing things that would ger her to want you...like a pua

attraction would be from your inner game

again im just speculating..so before the SS police come flame me..there is no evidence to support my claim
 

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haha tit man, sayno, newman, rollo etc. will be surrounding your house soon frivolous!!! jk you guys....
 

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Real pickup artists can seduce girls. they rely on tactics and an outer game to get the job done.

Attraction is where the girl wants to be with you, based solely on your inner game. If she's attracted to you right away, all you gotta do is keep the attraction going.

Seduction can lead to attraction, but that type of calculated sh!t isn't for me. Some guys love it, some don't. depends on the person. I can certainly respect the guys who are PUA's.... The good ones can lay any women, pretty much.

I'm looking for real relationships....FB's, STR's and LTR's and I've had my share of one night stands but they were never an attempt to seduce her. The attraction was already there.
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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inner game:
your confidence, self worth, self repsect, personality.


outer game: protraying to be something your not to achieve it.

like a con-artist
 

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A pickup artist excels at the pickup itself. He can get numbers, and a kiss close like *that*.

A Don Juan is a total package. He has the qualities of the PUA but also has a self-empowering mentality "The Prince" "The Prize" "The Great Catch" etc.
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
1) What are the similarities between attraction and seduction?

2) What are the differences between attraction and seduction?

3) Which is better? And for what type of situation?

4) Recommended e-books for creating attraction?

5) Recommended e-books for seduction?
1) They are similar because they are both "tension builders" in people to make them want something.

2) Attraction is when you first meet and you try to make him or her "feel" for you. Seduction is the next level of attraction and you attempt to get him or her "sexually" attracted to you.

3) They are both important pieces because you need one to have the other. But, seduction is better because of the "sex".

4) David De Angelo's ebook "Dating Tips" is good for attraction

5) Same as question 4.

Good Luck
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Let's not digress too far off the topic, but who would win then in a sarging contest, sosuave (DJ) or fastseduction (PUA)?
 

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You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by bluelemond
1) What are the similarities between attraction and seduction?

2) What are the differences between attraction and seduction?

3) Which is better? And for what type of situation?

4) Recommended e-books for creating attraction?

5) Recommended e-books for seduction?
1 - They both lead to plowing the chick.

2 - attraction is the state where a woman feels compelled to be with you based on your attractive traits. Seduction is a strategy used to control the woman's mind and fill the ideal image that you create for her in her mind. Seductive techiniques imply that there is a lack somewhere that forces a person to have to use tactics and manouvres to get and keep the woman attracted, whereas if you base your game on attraction shows that you have the patience and choice...

3 - Seduction is good if you are trying to get something from the woman, attraction is more a mutually beneficial strategy.

4 - David D's e-books

5 - The art of seduction by robert greene
 

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Re: Re: Attraction vs. Seduction

Originally posted by So pimp its scary
1 - They both lead to plowing the chick.

2 - attraction is the state where a woman feels compelled to be with you based on your attractive traits. Seduction is a strategy used to control the woman's mind and fill the ideal image that you create for her in her mind. Seductive techiniques imply that there is a lack somewhere that forces a person to have to use tactics and manouvres to get and keep the woman attracted, whereas if you base your game on attraction shows that you have the patience and choice...

3 - Seduction is good if you are trying to get something from the woman, attraction is more a mutually beneficial strategy.

4 - David D's e-books

5 - The art of seduction by robert greene

So since most if not all (except David DeAngelo's) of the e-books are based on seduction, then you suggest not to buy any other one due to the fact that they don't really create a lasting connection?
 
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**** the outer game! It takes WAAAY too much work. Im a lazy man myself and I believe the road to self improvement is the way to go.
 

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wow BL you always have something interesting to post don't you! i wouldnt be surprised if i see your name on a sticky sooner or later!
 

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Attraction is the feeling one has when one wants to be around/with a certain person.

Seduction is the act of making another person feel attracted to you.

Neither is necessarily better, they are linked.

Being naturally attractive without the ability to seduce will cause women to want to meet you but you will never be able to take it past a certain level except with certain women.

Being able to seduce without any sort of natural attraction will make you unable to grab any woman's attention long enough to seduce her.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Attraction is the substance of who you are naturally. Consisting of your personality, your values, your status, and what you're capable of achieving. Seduction has two concentrations. Manipulation and romance. Manipulation is secret and deceitful. Often involving lies and promises to achieve a goal. Whereas romance is open and allows one a path to express desire (the sweeping away effect). I'd say you need both to truly be successful. Does this makes sense?
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
Let's not digress too far off the topic, but who would win then in a sarging contest, sosuave (DJ) or fastseduction (PUA)?
A PUA would definately win. Thats what they are known for, Pick Up Artists. A Don Juan is about being the best man that you can be, the girls are just a side effect. I dont believe a Don Juan should even have to go 'sarging', the girls just come to him as he goes on with his life. Better success rate but a smaller # of girls.

And for the original question.
Attraction is when the girl feels attracted based on the whole you.
Seduction is when you use your words to lead her mind through different states to get a girl attracted to you. Seduction is more powerful but also requires alot more to learn/do.
 
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